I believe that Naruto's Feelings Being Transferred Caused Sasuke's Power-Up

[GiantShuriken]

Sasuke has an EMS and is learning how to use its abilities.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

You do realize that Naruto was on the verge of giving up (for the second time thus far), until Sasuke busted out his new Susano'o and questioned if Naruto is still down and that Sasuke is still headstrong in this fight, right?

Sasuke was the one who got Naruto off his ass this chapter, and made him realize that there's nothing Naruto can't accomplish with his friends at his side, and most importantly, his best friend Uchiha Sasuke.

This is what I meant, and this is also a main point I believe Kishimoto wanted us to realize.

When hasn't Naruto or Sasuke for that matter haven't been put in that situation? Many of times! What i was trying to say is if Naruto had a play in Sasuke getting a power-up through an emotional form.

 

[take it easy]

Just a new EMS Susanoo form. The chakra cloak only enhances the power of it, nothing to do with development.

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[Crossroads]

When hasn't Naruto or Sasuke for that matter haven't been put in that situation? Many of times! What i was trying to say is if Naruto had a play in Sasuke getting a power-up through an emotional form.

It's plausible, but it's more likely to believe that it's his own EMS maturation.

The reason I say it's plausible is because everytime Sasuke got more pissed at Kage Summit, his Susano'o got stronger.. so this could be correct indeed.

And Naruto has never been in the position where he literally "saved" Sasuke, believe it or not.. Sasuke saved Naruto from himself this chapter. Naruto has yet to have such influence on Sasuke, from a readers perspective.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

When Ino used her telepathy I don't think Sasuke was shown anywhere on their feeling Naruto and the flashbacks. It was mainly the alliance.

Was Shikamaru shown half dead in any panel before this chapter?

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

Was Shikamaru shown half dead in any panel before this chapter?

Nope, but Ino didn't do the telepathy before the chapter while Sasuke was here either.

 

[Dribbles]

Sasuke couldn't stand seeing Naruto sitting there doing nothing, which is why Orochimaru said "He looks displeased.."

Naruto got up because of their rivalry, them two just can't help but compete with each other whenever they're together, that's what Kishi was trying to portray there. But through that rivalry, it also inspired Naruto to do the same thing he had always done; never give up. Sasuke basically teased him into action, which I find funny.

 

[Chief Toad]

You do realize that Naruto was on the verge of giving up (for the second time thus far), until Sasuke busted out his new Susano'o and questioned if Naruto is still down and that Sasuke is still headstrong in this fight, right?

Sasuke was the one who got Naruto off his ass this chapter, and made him realize that there's nothing Naruto can't accomplish with his friends at his side, and most importantly, his best friend Uchiha Sasuke.

This is what I meant, and this is also a main point I believe Kishimoto wanted us to realize.

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I think in a way they both helped each other. Naruto got motivation from Sasuke fighting and Sasuke got a sort of power up from seeing Naruto's emotions.

& This too ^^^

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

You are correct and wrong at the same time.
If Sasuke is smart (which he is) he would have referred to Naruto's feelings and gain power.

Just like an Uchiha feels pain, they can also be relieved from that pain with "love" which will increase the powers even more so than the hatred. The Uchiha clan is the clan of "love." When an Uchiha loses love they go through a mental breakdown which then awakens their true powers.

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It says that an Uchiha goes deeper into hatred, but Tobirama didn't just form that hypothosis about sasuke when he saw his MS. So there is a good and an evil. Sauske on the other hand is different from those two shades of chakra. His color is purple which is red and blue mixed.
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[SuperFlyzzED]

Nope, but Ino didn't do the telepathy before the chapter while Sasuke was here either.

Point taken but what i'm saying is that not everything takes place in a panel. Kishi sometimes puts other details aside and shows it later.

 

[Joker]

Oh shut up! You talk as if you knew everyone on base. If i don't like the opinion or view of something i will say something about it. I want to understand the nonsense that's all.

Ok, how am I talking as if I knew everyone on the base? Due tell me, i'd really like to know. Now, another point of have, I can't shut up because I am not talking. Don't get mad, because people a disagreeing with your views. It makes you look childish

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

Point taken but what i'm saying is that not everything takes place in a panel. Kishi sometimes puts other details aside and shows it later.

I know, and I'm not saying your point is nonsense or anything, Uchihas are known to respond to emotions heavily. Just stating I felt it had not much to do with his Power-up.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Obviously naruto's chakra is having an effect. It would be pretty foolish to think otherwise since we've already seen the power boosts people gained from having it.

Not surely since the Uchiha's power is based off emotion alone and there was a ton of emotion in that chapter
You think to simple and that makes you blind when debating or stating something. ​

 

[Nous]

I honestly doubt it since Sasuke seems to only be fond of Nii-san and only cared to save Naruto during the Juubi Biuudama [imo at least] because Naruto can fight Obito. I think that a combination of Sasuke becoming more accustomed to the Eien no Mangekyo with the combination of Kurama's Chakura, is the source of Sasuke's power - more himself than Kurama but Kurama is still helping quite a lot.

 

[Joker]

I honestly doubt it since Sasuke seems to only be fond of Nii-san and only cared to save Naruto during the Juubi Biuudama [imo at least] because Naruto can fight Obito. I think that a combination of Sasuke becoming more accustomed to the Eien no Mangekyo with the combination of Kurama's Chakura, is the source of Sasuke's power - more himself than Kurama but Kurama is still helping quite a lot.

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[SuperFlyzzED]

You are correct and wrong at the same time.
If Sasuke is smart (which he is) he would have referred to Naruto's feelings and gain power.

Just like an Uchiha feels pain, they can also be relieved from that pain with "love" which will increase the powers even more so than the hatred. The Uchiha clan is the clan of "love." When an Uchiha loses love they go through a mental breakdown which then awakens their true powers.

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It says that an Uchiha goes deeper into hatred, but Tobirama didn't just form that hypothosis about sasuke when he saw his MS. So there is a good and an evil. Sauske on the other hand is different from those two shades of chakra. His color is purple which is red and blue mixed.
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If purple means his Susanoo it's not the case. Sasuke's Susanoo is blue grey in the manga. In this case, Sasuke's Susanoo could symbolize grief and hatred experienced in the past. Love can possibly be theorized to have been the source this time. Do i know if Sasuke got his power-up through Naruto and make it seem so? No. I'm just throwing another possible idea from the cloak topic that's get vague at this point.

I know, and I'm not saying your point is nonsense or anything, Uchihas are known to respond to emotions heavily. Just stating I felt it had not much to do with his Power-up.

I should of stated in the OP that i was trying to make another possible reason for Sasuke's power-up. I believe Cross about EMS maturation more so than the rest of my possible theories. I'm tired of the cloak did this, cloak did that for everyone, or clock is doing something for Sasuke. Pure nonsense in my opinion.

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

I should of stated in the OP that i was trying to make another possible reason for Sasuke's power-up. I believe Cross about EMS maturation more so than the rest of my possible theories. I'm tired of the cloak did this, cloak did that for everyone, or clock is doing something for Sasuke. Pure nonsense in my opinion.

I really feel Sasuke having the cloak is purely bad at this point. He is an Uchiha and contains the EMS for a reason, him "needing" the Kyuubi Chakra as well feels..kinda shallow.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

I really feel Sasuke having the cloak is purely bad at this point. He is an Uchiha and contains the EMS for a reason, him "needing" the Kyuubi Chakra as well feels..kinda shallow.

Exactly. Naruto fanboys are so arrogant to the point that i can't find their opinion worthy. Naruto's chakra also made Sasuke's Susanoo ten fold in size! Funny cause i doubt Madara's Susanoo grew in size because of Kurama. Until proof is given, people should tone their opinion down a few notches. Naruto's cloak is no miracle pill. Otherwise, the war would be over by now.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

If purple means his Susanoo it's not the case. Sasuke's Susanoo is blue grey in the manga. In this case, Sasuke's Susanoo could symbolize grief and hatred experienced in the past. Love can possibly be theorized to have been the source this time. Do i know if Sasuke got his power-up through Naruto and make it seem so? No. I'm just throwing another possible idea from the cloak topic that's get vague at this point.



I should of stated in the OP that i was trying to make another possible reason for Sasuke's power-up. I believe Cross about EMS maturation more so than the rest of my possible theories. I'm tired of the cloak did this, cloak did that for everyone, or clock is doing something for Sasuke. Pure nonsense in my opinion.

No...it does not.
Purple means the feeling and sasuke color has been purple before susanoo ever came about.
Its not about the actual color but about using logic and the actual things that are happening in the series and combine them. Sasuke is dyed in purple and that's the curse of hatred and the will of fire.

He carries both those things inside of him and that forms his susanoo. Enough with the color and stuff though.
Tobirama and I are right, if you read what he said about it changing quickly then you would understand what I mean. Until then study what Tobirama said, the time frame in which sasuke had and witnessed during and all the way until the end of the war, and you'll see how sasuke susanoo got stronger.

It makes perfect sense Naruto wise, its easy to understand, I mean sasuke spawned complete susanoo just by yelling. Though you're telling me that by seeing his friend cry, getting beyond mad, and striking something doesn't increase his power? But yelling does? Lol: ​

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[Troyg39]

Exactly. Naruto fanboys are so arrogant to the point that i can't find their opinion worthy. Naruto's chakra also made Sasuke's Susanoo ten fold in size! Funny cause i doubt Madara's Susanoo grew in size because of Kurama. Until proof is given, people should tone their opinion down a few notches. Naruto's cloak is no miracle pill. Otherwise, the war would be over by now.

I normally like your posts and I know from reading them you aren't the typical Sasuke fan who's irate about the current situation, but be fair dude.

To answer your original question, I don't believe that Naruto's flashbacks had anything to do with it, only because they didn't start until after he had already activated Susanoo. I think the answer lies in what Oro said upon arriving at the battlefield. He saw that Sasuke was displeased, and we know that the time Sasuke spent watching the fight he showed moments of anger and frustration. I believe that pent up agression is a possible cause to his Susanoo power-up.

Now that that's out the way, people should understand something. There is no evidence that supports Sasuke being able to advance to his new Susanoo form without the help of the cloak at all. We know for a fact that the cloak enhances the jutsu of any ninja that has it. That is a manga fact. We know Sasuke was encompassed with the cloak before and during his new Susanoo activation. That is a manga fact.

I'm not saying this to make you mad, but I believe you're a sensible person and I'd hate to see you lose your senses due to the gloating of a few fans. It's very possible that the cloak has enhanced Sasuke's abilities. We know that's what it does. And Sasuke has never used this kind of Susanoo without the cloak before. Honestly it's probably a combination of both the cloak and his anger, and I'm sure he will be able to do this even once the cloak is gone, but as far as this particular time, believing out right that the cloak played no role at all is the only opinion on this topic without any evidence. It's just baseless to say so, and at this point goes against the manga. Logically speaking, the cloak played some kind of role this time.