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Completely unfounded.
Not really unless you think Akatsuchi kneads up chakra when he flies, which is obviously not the case. Only Onoki's technique allows him to do so. The only thing that consume chakra is Onoki's technique allowing someone to lose in weight
 

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you guys are missing a scan regarding Muu flying while invisible

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look at the bottom left panel where it looks like something is moving and a sound cloud is forming, to my understand that is Muu sama flying while invisible and the next next scan he simply turned more

I already took that into account. Earlier when I addressed KG I said "The Scan before it" and was noting the scan you provided. Its still entirely possible that be bounded off a rock formation, since again, kneading chakra and using Mujin mode at the same time isn't possible.

Not really unless you think Akatsuchi kneads up chakra when he flies, which is obviously not the case. Only Onoki's technique allows him to do so

Your suggesting that Onoki can use a Jutsu that doesn't use chakra?
 

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I already took that into account. Earlier when I addressed KG I said "The Scan before it" and was noting the scan you provided. Its still entirely possible that be bounded off a rock formation, since again, kneading chakra and using Mujin mode at the same time isn't possible.

Not really sure how you can debate this, I think it's pretty obvious that sand cloud is obviously from Muu sama flying at high speed while invisible. The manga itself shows us. No point in denying the obvious. No disrespect though.
 

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Your suggesting that Onoki can use a Jutsu that doesn't use chakra?
No i'm saying that Onoki uses a technique that allows someone/something to lose weight. It's that technique that uses chakra, but when that thing or person already lost in weight, he moves without kneading chakra at all, with normal basic movements, only that in this state(having lost in weight), gravity has no effect on him
 

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I already took that into account. Earlier when I addressed KG I said "The Scan before it" and was noting the scan you provided. Its still entirely possible that be bounded off a rock formation, since again, kneading chakra and using Mujin mode at the same time isn't possible.

Oh, I thought you meant the panel before for some odd reason. lmao. My bad. Then you still have a point here.
 

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Not really sure how you can debate this, I think it's pretty obvious that sand cloud is obviously from Muu sama flying at high speed while invisible. The manga itself shows us. No point in denying the obvious. No disrespect though.

From this single panel you claim that its "obvious" he's flying at a high speed?
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Theres nothing in the background to compare it to or any noteable distance covered that we can see. The Shinobi in Naruto have on numerous occasions shown that they can cover considerable aerial distance with they're legs.

Claiming such a thing is obvious is dubious
 
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If Mu really can't fly while utilizing invisibility, then Sasuke can take this.
 

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If Mu really can't fly while utilizing invisibility, then Sasuke can take this.

Bogard still has his point. I've been aruing that he can't be invisible prior to flying. Vice Versa is possible.
 

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From this single panel you claim that its "obvious" he's flying at a high speed?
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Theres nothing in the background to compare it to or any noteable distance covered that we can see. The Shinobi in Naruto have on numerous occasions shown that they can cover considerable aerial distance with they're legs.

Claiming such a thing is obvious is dubious

Its common sense that, that has to be Muu... I mean it can't be anymore obvious can it? The implications and how it was set up clearly points to the fact that it was indeed Muu.
 

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Bogard still has his point. I've been aruing that he can't be invisible prior to flying. Vice Versa is possible.

Yeah, I know that he does. Just wanted to express how I felt about the match if he can't fly while invisible.

When you say vice versa, do you mean that he can fly and then become invisible?
 

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Yeah, I know that he does. Just wanted to express how I felt about the match if he can't fly while invisible.

When you say vice versa, do you mean that he can fly and then become invisible?

Possibly Yes. If the chakra he used to make himself fly doesn't linger on his body then he can fly. Though if the chakra must remain active on his body to maintain flight, then he can't. Hence why I only say its possible. Not for certain.

Its common sense that, that has to be Muu... I mean it can't be anymore obvious can it? The implications and how it was set up clearly points to the fact that it was indeed Muu.

Where did I say it wasn't Muu....
 

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Onoki doesn't "fly". He only makes his body lose in weight. So think of it as if Onoki's body was 0Kg when he uses this technique. In this case, the gravity has no effect on him and thus make him faster and lighter, but on the contrary has no power(reason why Kabuto's clay clone wasn't affected by his punch)
 

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Possibly Yes. If the chakra he used to make himself fly doesn't linger on his body then he can fly. Though if the chakra must remain active on his body to maintain flight, then he can't. Hence why I only say its possible. Not for certain.



Where did I say it wasn't Muu....

so why are we arguing this?Zzz
 

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sasuke wins jinton is never hiting
 

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Just a few things to note. Muu can't use Mujin Mode while flying or using Jinton, as both require chakra kneading.

He did fly with Mujin mode and he did use Jinton on Onoki's clone while in that mode too
 

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Sasuke was defeated by Onnoki if Obito didn't save him, Muu win easily.
 
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