I think the gaara described in this thread could make it to BM naruto.
It would be awesome to see him fight hashirama though. The large scale mokuton against the large scale sand techs would make for a really really entertaining battle.
lol, terrible analogy. Mountains and CT's sphere are made of the same things mostly. Rocks and Earth. Mountains should be far more compact considering the fact that CT is just a bunch of rocks pulled from the earth and then smashed together, so yes, size does matter here, so a Bijuu Dama is blowing up CT.
The rocks are what give it durability, hence the ideal counter being destroying it in its early stages while there is less rubble protecting the sphere.
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. Human Path needs contact with the body in order to take the soul. Is he touching Gaara? Nope. Not to mention he can still control sand,
He loses at 6, because in the end Gaara despite his enhancements would need his full Shukaku form to resist against Hachibi. Sand won't be enough to hold him and Hachibi > Shukaku in raw power
I think the gaara described in this thread could make it to BM naruto.
It would be awesome to see him fight hashirama though. The large scale mokuton against the large scale sand techs would make for a really really entertaining battle.
If your referring to me saying Gaara could make it to BM naruto, then yeah I do think so. He would lose to Naruto but I think he could beat EMS sasuke.
As a perfect jinchuuriki, he's immune to genjutsu, he has a far larger pool of chakra which means he has access to more sand manipulation, He can become shikaku which means he is invulnerable to physical harm. There is just so much that gaara gains in his upgrade by the OT.
If your referring to me saying Gaara could make it to BM naruto, then yeah I do think so. He would lose to Naruto but I think he could beat EMS sasuke.
As a perfect jinchuuriki, he's immune to genjutsu, he has a far larger pool of chakra which means he has access to more sand manipulation, He can become shikaku which means he is invulnerable to physical harm. There is just so much that gaara gains in his upgrade by the OT.
I think the gaara described in this thread could make it to BM naruto.
It would be awesome to see him fight hashirama though. The large scale mokuton against the large scale sand techs would make for a really really entertaining battle.
At least this guy gets it! He probably stops at EMS Sasuke, but still...
Perfect Jin Gaara>Killer Bee! Given the fact Gaara is a perfect Jin, he can fully transform within seconds, so; An aerial state Gaara can easily avoid the Hachibi while the sand is restraining/slowing down his movements. Gaara then only needs to fully transform into the Shukaku above the Hachibi fire off a few wind bursts then follow up with a food-cart destroyer to put some damage on em and/or take the same course of action but blast the Hachibi with TBB's from his blind side while the sand is restraining him.
Imperfect Jin Gaara still had biju level chakra reserves despite having to use his chakra to suppress the Shukaku.
The current biju-less Gaara STILL had biju level chakra reserves.
Now imagine an ordinary Gaara with biju level reserves+the Shukaku. He's easily on par with the Hachibi.
Perfect Jin Gaara>Killer Bee! Given the fact Gaara is a perfect Jin, he can fully transform within seconds, so; An aerial state Gaara can easily avoid the Hachibi while the sand is restraining/slowing down his movements. Gaara then only needs to fully transform into the Shukaku above the Hachibi fire off a few wind bursts then follow up with a food-cart destroyer to put some damage on em and/or take the same course of action but blast the Hachibi with TBB's from his blind side while the sand is restraining him.
Imperfect Jin Gaara still had biju level chakra reserves despite having to use his chakra to suppress the Shukaku.
The current biju-less Gaara STILL had biju level chakra reserves.
Now imagine an ordinary Gaara with biju level reserves+the Shukaku. He's easily on par with the Hachibi.
I didn't say Shukaku flys. I said an aerial state Gaara transforms into the Shukaku while being airborne. It would be practically the same thing as a food cart destroyer.
His fight with Deidara doesn't make it obvious to you? I currently don't have the time to provide links. Got mad school work to do, but I just wanted to give my 2 cents while I spectated. If you still disagree, I'll reply to you properly tomorrow when I get the time.
I was assuming that this was alive minato who doesn't have BM. In which case, minato has no chance against the massive volume of sand that gaara can create. His kunai are useless and buried by sand avalanches and sand tsunamis. With out the aid of an effective FTG all minato has left are his rasengans. We already saw that the toad summons (gamabunta) were no match for shakaku.
Might Guy is at a huge disadvantage once gaara takes flight. Gaara would simply toy with him to exhaust him. Once gaara grabs might guy's leg (like he did to his father) the match is over. Guy gets slung and buried.
Killer B is a different issue. In there base forms, killer be is at a disadvantage since gaara is a long range fighter and can fly while killer be mostly rely's on lariats and swordsmanship. At which case killer bee would HAVE TO engage him in his tailed beast form or v2 cloak. Thought it is known that Gyuki has more chakra than Shikaku, I believe with the combined efforts of gaara's techiniques with Shikaku's huge chakra pool, they should be able to pull off a win.
If gaara could restrain Gyuki with a large quality of sand, then he should be able to lock him in a enlarged version of his Desert Layered Imperial Funeral. By using a large volume of sand under gyuki he should be able to throw him off, much like Son Goku did with Flower Fruit Mountain.
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Which would give him a opportunity to use the sand to restrain him, and lift a huge volume of sand up to seal gyuki and killer bee within the Desert Imperial Funeral.
Yeah, I should of placed Bee way higher, but I believe Jin Gaara has a slight edge. Anyways, could you elaborate more on how Gaara defeats current EMS Sasuke? It's definitely debatable. I think his best chances are to avoid a full bijuu transformation, and remain aerial. Really all depends on who can last longer.
Most people are not even taking in to consideration the fact that he is immune to physical damage. And has his drilling air bullets that easily cratered the ground and wreaked gamabunta on impact.
I was assuming that this was alive minato who doesn't have BM. In which case, minato has no chance against the massive volume of sand that gaara can create. His kunai are useless and buried by sand avalanches and sand tsunamis. With out the aid of an effective FTG all minato has left are his rasengans. We already saw that the toad summons (gamabunta) were no match for shakaku.
Considering the range of Minato's FTG, and the fact markings never disappear, buring the kunais would be meaningless since no matter where Gaara would put them, he could still teleport around the area(look how far apart he teleported entire alliance with one marking kunai) [
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Not only that but since Minato can summon everything connected to his chakra, summoning his kunais back would be a peace of cake if he really wanted [
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So all in all this strategy would be proven to be meaningless in the end. Not only that but in Shukaku form, Gaara becomes and even easier target to receive markings especially from someone as fast as Minato. So at that point, moves like TBB would be restricted to him or he would get killed by his own attacks. I admit however that Minato on his own doesn't have the fire power to defeat Shukaku, although he possess sealing techniques that Gaara should worry about.
Eventhough it's true Gamabunta is not as strong as Shukaku, he can offer a powerful support [
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Not saying Minato would win however, but Gaara would have to be cautious while fighting in order to win
If gaara could restrain Gyuki with a large quality of sand, then he should be able to lock him in a enlarged version of his Desert Layered Imperial Funeral. By using a large volume of sand under gyuki he should be able to throw him off, much like Son Goku did with Flower Fruit Mountain.
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Which would give him a opportunity to use the sand to restrain him, and lift a huge volume of sand up to seal gyuki and killer bee within the Desert Imperial Funeral.
The sand you mentioned isn't even great enough to cover all Hachibi(in terms of size), let alone hold him(especially the last pic), so i seriously doubt this sand would be strong enough to hold Hachibi when sand didn't even phase Gamabunta(when Naruto summoned him) [
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Hachibi has much more raw power, too much power to realistically think it can hold him [
Yeah, I should of placed Bee way higher, but I believe Jin Gaara has a slight edge. Anyways, could you elaborate more on how Gaara defeats current EMS Sasuke? It's definitely debatable. I think his best chances are to avoid a full bijuu transformation, and remain aerial. Really all depends on who can last longer.
Even if Gaara chose to enter full bijuu transformation, I still think he could pull a win against EMS sasuke. Gaara has basically already shown us that amaterasu is useless against sand (which is what shikaku's body is made of), Genjutsu isn't working against perfect jins, and the susanoo sword slashes are useless since physical attack don't have any negative effect of shikaku's body since its made of sand. He can simply reform.
Yeah, I should of placed Bee way higher, but I believe Jin Gaara has a slight edge. Anyways, could you elaborate more on how Gaara defeats current EMS Sasuke? It's definitely debatable. I think his best chances are to avoid a full bijuu transformation, and remain aerial. Really all depends on who can last longer.
Most people are not even taking in to consideration the fact that he is immune to physical damage. And has his drilling air bullets that easily cratered the ground and wreaked gamabunta on impact.
They are sleep bro... They have no idea, and think just because he has 1 tail that he is a oush over. 90% of them actually think Gamabunta can beat him or did beat him. smh
Even if Gaara chose to enter full bijuu transformation, I still think he could pull a win against EMS sasuke. Gaara has basically already shown us that amaterasu is useless against sand (which is what shikaku's body is made of), Genjutsu isn't working against perfect jins, and the susanoo sword slashes are useless since physical attack don't have any negative effect of shikaku's body since its made of sand. He can simply reform.
Wasn't worried about Amaterasu or genjutsu, but that Susano'o sword. I completely forgot that Shukaku is made of sand and can probably reform his body. However, if my memory serves me correct; he never reformed his arm after it being cut off by Gamabunta. I could be wrong though. If the Shukaku is indeed able to reform, he undoubtedly takes it.
The sand you mentioned isn't even great enough to cover all Hachibi(in terms of size), let alone hold him(especially the last pic), so i seriously doubt this sand would be strong enough to hold Hachibi when sand didn't even phase Gamabunta(when Naruto summoned him) [
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Hachibi has much more raw power, too much power to realistically think it can hold him [
While the sand that gaara has shown in this war isn't on the scale needed to restraint he gyuuki, I do believe that if gaara receives a perfect union with shikaku the his chakra levels increase as well as his chakra strength. So with increasing chakra strength and chakra reserves it should be a lot easier for gaara to accomplish large scale feats such as this:
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With this being that case it should also allow gaara to create a sand imperial funeral that is large enough to trap the Gyuuki with ease. It should also allow him to use a greater and stronger scale of sand techs which would allow him to lock down the gyuuki.
In response to the picture your linked in regards to shikaku's sand now having an effect on gamabunta, it wasn't that it wasn't strong enough to harm gamabunta, it was more so that shikaku was targeting a smaller target (naruto) and when gamabunta was summoned his large body displaced the sand that was closing in to crush naruto. Gamabunta's size exceeded the volume of sand that shikaku sent after naruto.