[Discussion] luffy is stronger than all of the supernova

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After what Law has been doing, he is weaker than Zoro? That doesn't seem right. I think Zoro will eventually get stronger than Law, but right now he can't be stronger.

I think Kid is currently the strongest, Luffy second strongest and Law third strongest. X Drake, Hawkins and/or Zoro fourth and fifth strongest.

We have yet to see Zoro's AoE, and it most likely is as large as what Law did on PH (definitely greater in Asura-mode). Also, when Smoker told Tashigi her Haki isn't strong enough to compete with Law, this suggests that with a stronger CoA than Law, would not be so disadvantages against him. And I for one am sure that Zoro's CoA is stronger than Law's. Which means Zoro can in fact beat him; however is Zoro doesn't go all-out from the get-go, he'd lose. Furthermore, depending on the environment, the fight could go either way.

As for Kidd being the strongest: I doubt he could beat Luffy in a 1v1 match; unless his new prowess is similar to Earth616-Magneto's or their location gives an advantage.

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

We have yet to see Zoro's AoE, and it most likely is as large as what Law did on PH (definitely greater in Asura-mode). Also, when Smoker told Tashigi her Haki isn't strong enough to compete with Law, this suggests that with a stronger CoA than Law, would not be so disadvantages against him. And I for one am sure that Zoro's CoA is stronger than Law's. Which means Zoro can in fact beat him; however is Zoro doesn't go all-out from the get-go, he'd lose. Furthermore, depending on the environment, the fight could go either way.

As for Kidd being the strongest: I doubt he could beat Luffy in a 1v1 match; unless his new prowess is similar to Earth616-Magneto's or their location gives an advantage.

I so agree with the Zoro part and if/when they cross swords it will be an awesome showdown. I will wait for more no something from Kidd for me to give a different verdict on him vs Luffy coz now with shown stuff ignoring bounties Luffy messes him up, but as u said his powers have a long/many ways they can go.

 

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I would personally rank the supernova like this:
1.Law
2.Kidd
3.Luffy (until his next Powerup / Gear stack ; then he will be #1)
4.Drake
5.Zoro
6.Killer

Too be honest I can't see Zoro defeating Law through swordsmanship.Laws cutting ability within his room is only to be beaten by Doflamingo and Admiral tier + swordsmen. Law seems to have stronger Haki than Zoro overall as he cut clean through Vergo (full body armament) and the rest of PH with moderate effort. He will have to be stronger than Law EOS to be the worlds strongest swordsman (which would be interesting as I think Law will be a Yonkou).

For us to actually conclude if Zoro can defeat Law or not we have to consider that we haven't seen Asura. Right now Law>Zoro : Asura would make a difference. But we don't know how strong he is when using Asura.

 

[Netferarri]

I would personally rank the supernova like this:
1.Law
2.Kidd
3.Luffy (until his next Powerup / Gear stack ; then he will be #1)
4.Drake
5.Zoro
6.Killer

Too be honest I can't see Zoro defeating Law through swordsmanship.Laws cutting ability within his room is only to be beaten by Doflamingo and Admiral tier + swordsmen. Law seems to have stronger Haki than Zoro overall as he cut clean through Vergo (full body armament) and the rest of PH with moderate effort. He will have to be stronger than Law EOS to be the worlds strongest swordsman (which would be interesting as I think Law will be a Yonkou).

For us to actually conclude if Zoro can defeat Law or not we have to consider that we haven't seen Asura. Right now Law>Zoro : Asura would make a difference. But we don't know how strong he is when using Asura.

I made a thread a while ago about Zoro vs Law and it was hot! XD

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

alright now some people think that kid or law is stronger than luffy .... but

remember before the TS luffy ,kid and law were equals well not exactly !!!!

the straw hat Defeated two shibukai's while kid and law were Surprised to see one

and back in two years ... it took both kid crew and law crew to defeat one pacifista !! while the straw hats alone Defeated one !!

now after the TS dark king taught luffy how to use all three kind of haki and HE himself said that your progress is almost impossible for anyone to achive !!!

imo: i think luffy > kid > law>=zoro >= killer >= sanji

I agree, especially with the bold. If loads of the other supernova have haki, ill be so mad. 2 years was said to not be enough time to teach the basics. If kid, without a teacher develops haki in those 2 years while he was busy in the New World, it will be complete bullshit.

Also in my opinion it goes.

Luffy> Law=Zoro>Kid>Killer=Sanji