Healthy Itachi Vs Minato

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Healthy Itachi = Alive Edo Itachi

Conditions/Restrictions: Minato can't use KCM, BM
Location: Same place Edo Nagato was sealed
IC: Both are to kill
Knowledge: Itachi has very basic knowledge on FTG based on how minato used it in the third shinobi world war against enemy soldier's in Kakashi Gaiden. Minato also has very basic knowledge on Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo.

Who win's this?
 

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*waits for bogard and kidgamer to make a petty argument for minato*
 
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Minato doesn't have a counter for the big three jutsu that come with MS: Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo. He could try to find a way around them, but Tsukuyomi might be the thing that will trip him up and thus end in his defeat. This doesn't mean Minato won't put up a good fight, since Itachi wouldn't just whip out Tsukuyomi from the start. But his problem is Tsukuyomi, and maybe Amaterasu.

Itachi wins mid/high difficulty.
 

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1- Minato knows how to fight Sharingan.

2- Minato uses a clone and genjutsu becomes useless. FTG speed is untraceable. During a FTG, Minato can be wise enough to leave a clone when the original would hide somewhere. From there any genjutsu attempt would be useless unfortunately for Itachi and because of Minato's superior reflexive speed, shunshin and FTG that never disappears, either he maintains Susanoo, or he gets killed sooner or later

3- Minato can also summon Gamabunta if he wants for partner method. And with Gamabunta's powerful taijutsu, senjutsu attacks, even Susanoo would struggle.

4- With FTG kunais, Minato's clone could mark the area and more the time will pass and more Itachi's range would be limited. Minato could simply decide to launch kunais around Itachi's Susanoo and the match would be almost over, only waiting when Itachi will either decide to stop Susanoo or would run out of chakra(or side effects of MS techniques) to finish him with FTG blitz

5- We've seen the range of FTG lately. With one kunai he was capable to warp people on different positions far away the other:

With The Susanoo only being a Chakra shroud covering the user, Minato's FTG could strike a Susanoo user with one teleportation, like they did against Obito(the chakra orbs surrounding him never followed):

And don't tell me FTG can't warp chakra base attacks. You've been proven wrong since a while and it's confirmed with Tobirama:

By using the Goshun Mawashi not only the FTG user can seperate the Susanoo from its user but deliver the finishing blow at the same time(Minato can do it with a clone)

And that is if i give the knowledge advantage to Itachi. Without knowledge it wouldn't last a minute

Minato has this in the bag. Mid diff at most

If you consider that Alive Minato has BM, it's neg diff U_U
 

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Itachi covers the field with Amaterasu limiting minato movements.
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Itachi Summons Crow to slow down Minato even more
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Itachi uses just the aura of Susanoo to protect him from Taijutsu
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Hit Minato with a Dusk Crow Genjutsu

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honestly Minato at least 4 or 5 tiers above Itachi. If itachi WITH Kisame are hardly in the same level as Jman
I failed to see how is he going to fight minato!

Minato can teleport the Susanoo user out of it as he did to Sasuke
Amaterasu is useless since we saw Minato was hit by it, and then he teleported without any problem

Genjutsu needs eye contract and I don't see how itachi going to do that with someone as fast as Minato!
even Madara needed 5 susanoo to put A under the Genjutsu after he was detracted by Tsunade!

Minato win low difficult, he even defeated obito who is stronger than itachi without any problem.
and at most it's med difficult.
 

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Healthy Itachi takes this Mid-diff. Sick Itachi wins with extreme diff.

Edo Minato is a diffrent story
 

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I think Minato can win, but it could go either way. Kisame or Itachi beat J-Man or put up a good fight. Itachi and Kisame were talking about Kurama being a foe where they would at best stalemate.
 

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I think Minato can win, but it could go either way. Kisame or Itachi beat J-Man or put up a good fight. Itachi and Kisame were talking about Kurama being a foe where they would at best stalemate.

No, they were talking about Jman. They never mentioned Kurama.
 

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No, they were talking about Jman. They never mentioned Kurama.

No, they were talking about Kurama. After talking about Kurama, they mentioned J-Man because he was the babysitter of Kurama's jin.
 

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No, they were talking about Kurama. After talking about Kurama, they mentioned J-Man because he was the babysitter of Kurama's jin.

that's bullshit and you know it
takl, in this conversation


Originally Posted by Ch144, p8
Kisame:
「アナタならどうにかこうにかやれる相手でも私じゃあ 分かりませんよ…」
「次元が違う」
"You might be able to somehow defeat him, but me, well I don't know..."
"Our levels are too far apart"

Itachi:
「ああ…やり合えは二人共殺されるか良くて相打ちというところ」
「…たとえ人数を増やしたとしても変わらないだろう」
"Yeah... If we fought him, we might both be killed. If it goes well, we might take him with us."
"Even if the number of people were to increase, this probably wouldn't change"

Kisame
「ラーメン屋で やっと見付けたはいいが…お守りが あの゛伝説の三忍゛とは」
「彼が相手では゛木ノ葉のうちは一族゛も゛霧の忍刀七人衆゛の名もかすんでしまう」
"It was good we finally found them by the ramen store, but... his guardian is of those 'Legendary Three Ninja' "
"He, as an opponent, makes 'Konoha's Uchiha clan' and the 'Seven Shinobi Swordmen of the Mist' seem like nothing."

Itachi:
「ああ…しかし……」
「どんな強者にも弱点というのがあるものだ……」
"Yes... However......"
"No matter how strong a person is, he is bound to have a weakness..."

were they talking about Jman or Kurama?

he replied
@TorJaN dif jman.

as you can see even the translator stated that they were talking about Jman in Japanese text.
 

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You make me laugh. The whole first part of the translation was about the guy who's guardian is Jiraiya. Which means Naruto, Kurama's jin. They were talking about Jiraiya's reputation making them seem like nothing.
 

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Uchiha Itachi is the victory at a high diff.
 

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You make me laugh. The whole first part of the translation was about the guy who's guardian is Jiraiya. Which means Naruto, Kurama's jin. They were talking about Jiraiya's reputation making them seem like nothing.

oh dear God. :(


Originally Posted by Ch144, p8
Kisame:
「アナタならどうにかこうにかやれ� �相手でも私じゃあ 分かりませんよ…」
「次元が違う」
"You might be able to somehow defeat him, but me, well I don't know..."
"Our levels are too far apart"

1- HIM = Jman.

Kurama is SEALED also, if hw was talking about Kurama, he would have said "IT" instead of "HIM"
Itachi:
「ああ…やり合えは二人共殺される� �良くて相打ちというところ」
「…たとえ人数を増やしたとしても� �わらないだろう」
"Yeah... If we fought him, we might both be killed. If it goes well, we might take him with us."
"Even if the number of people were to increase, this probably wouldn't change"

1- HIM and based on the 1st part = Jman

saying it was Naruto is clearly foolish since there is no way that Naruto can beat both that's just stupid. and also to think that they thought Naruto will use Kurama is a lot of assumption in your part, well nothing new I suppose itachi's fans were always butthurt about this fact. lol
but regardless

as Itachi said he never though that Naruto can control Kurama.
Kisame
「ラーメン屋で やっと見付けたは� �いが…お守りが あの゛伝説の三忍� ��とは」
「彼が相手では゛木ノ葉のうちは一� �゛も゛霧の忍刀七人衆゛の名もかす� ��でしまう」
"It was good we finally found them by the ramen store, but... his guardian is of those 'Legendary Three Ninja' "
"He, as an opponent, makes 'Konoha's Uchiha clan' and the 'Seven Shinobi Swordmen of the Mist' seem like nothing."
1- Them = Naruto & Jman
2- His = Naruto's
3- He = Jman
Itachi:
「ああ…しかし……」
「どんな強者にも弱点というのがあ� �ものだ……」
"Yes... However......"
"No matter how strong a person is, he is bound to have a weakness..."

Itachi said a PERSON don't be blind!
and he said "he is bound to have a weakness"

HE NOT IT, and the weakness he was talking about is WOMEN that's why he DID control a woman! to make Jman away from Naruto.

but oh well, I think it hurts a lot, fanboys will never admit anything against their character.
and therefore, since you are a fanboy this debate will come to no end. So, let it end.
were they talking about Jman or Kurama?
 
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