This isn't even an America hate thread but

[oShux]

These guys need to get it together..

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[ODDtobi]

We should improve america, not kill syrians to stop syrians from killing syrians

 

[FreakensteinAG]

This is what happens when major state industries leave and take the economy with it. Take notes, children, shipping jobs overseas is a vile tactic.

 

[Javaweb]

What's happening in Detroit??

 

[FreakensteinAG]

What's happening in Detroit??

Not sure if this is a genuine question or a "come on people!", but Detroit is bankrupt.

 

[Javaweb]

Not sure if this is a genuine question or a "come on people!", but Detroit is bankrupt.

So why is bankrupt?

 

[cigi]

Yep sure is america is to busy being superhero of the world but i bet when america is in deep shit ain't no one going to help. Also i'm tired of america always helping other countries when people are going crazy in Detroit

 

[YOUNGGUNNO]

So why is bankrupt?

nothing is really wrong with Detroit we're just low on cash because of the car factories leaving michigan (GM) and going bankrupt, they were basically our main income

 

[Javaweb]

nothing is really wrong with Detroit we're just low on cash because of the car factories leaving michigan (GM) and going bankrupt, they were basically our main income

So I'd nothing really wrong then shouldn't Syria be more important IDK but since you said it's nothing really wrong so.....

 

[oShux]

So I'd nothing really wrong then shouldn't Syria be more important IDK but since you said it's nothing really wrong so.....

No it shouldn't why is America worried about Syria? Its another fcking country let it handle its own problems. America needs to handle its own problems...

 

[YOUNGGUNNO]

So I'd nothing really wrong then shouldn't Syria be more important IDK but since you said it's nothing really wrong so.....

You're right Syria is more important right now, Detroit is going to start making more money since the new transformer moive is being made here, which should create a few jobs for some people. To be honest I think we're also getting help from the entire state so were good

 

[Javaweb]

No it shouldn't why is America worried about Syria? Its another fcking country let it handle its own problems. America needs to handle its own problems...

I don't really know much about Detroit but I'll tell you what their so focused on Syria. This is because the president bombs his own people with a nuclear weapon and is using force on his people. Right now that president is just a baby. Like Hitler was a baby. He used force on his people and America dealt with their own problems, he took over a country and America still dealt with its own problems, he killed the Jews and America still dealt with their own problems then a whole world war happened you see where I'm going with this. So basically what I'm trying to say is that America fears he's gonna be the next Hitler. So yeah that's why they want to go to war and stuff to stop him while he's a baby. Plus while the war in Syria is going on there will be a lot of time to help Detroit plus the fire in Jersey

 

[-Punk-]

Instead of sticking their noses where they don't belong , they should focus on their fvcking Country first , but no , they want to be heroes everywhere .

 

[Darthlawsuit]

Damnit! I went to narutobase just to post that image!

What is wrong is we keep electing the same idiots that fail us each time to the same office and there is no competition.

 

[Pirate King]

Obama is a moron, too bad 70% of Americans are idiots and elect the same corrupt politicians time after time

American government is shady as shit, thats why i plan on moving to canada

 

[Stark]

We are always meddling in affairs that don't concern us. Let them help themselves, Obama should be focused on his country.

 

[Nous]

It's not hate, just criticism.
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True. The world doesn't need the United States watching over them and making sure everything is going good. The United States breaks International Law on a regular basis so if the Syria Govt./Rebels [Still unsure who shot the Sarin Gas] breaks one, the US doesn't need to go apeshit over it. Who in the world even enforces it? Like what honestly can the UN do alone..

I would be okay [I wouldn't agree but it's debatable] that the US could do such if in good economic state. But it's not - it's getting better but look at how many people are on welfare, homeless, unemployed, the student loan issue.. fix those before fixing another country that if they go into, things will get worse not better.

 

[Aim64C]

What's happening in Detroit??

So why is bankrupt?

There are a few problems, to be honest.

For starters - Detroit is a very progressively liberal city. That means they love the notion of government and embraced the idea that everything needs to be tied into the government. Further, the government should ensure basic needs are met by everyone so that there is no suffering.

Sounds good.

But that led to increased taxes. As unions began to take over industry jobs (unions are the Paragon Knights of Progressivism) - they began to demand higher and higher wages for factory labor. $20 an hour was not at all atypical for a simple job where one simply ran a rivet gun on an assembly line.

For comparison - I'm getting a job that requires technical knowledge and independent maintenance of machines that will be 'filtering' the blood of people whose kidneys have failed or otherwise can no longer adequately extract urine from the body. If I **** up - someone can die from infection or end up with an overdose of some mineral or another and cause them to act all loopy. What will I be paid? Shy of $15 an hour.

I can live quite comfortably on that income and even handle a small family on that kind of income (and it will most probably increase a good 20-40% over the next 5 years, depending upon how things in the company shift). Granted - cost of living is lower, here - but you're talking about comparing what amounts to a mindless labor job that pays better than one requiring independent thought, analysis, and the 'higher education' our government likes to waste billions on to send douchebags to get their MBA straight out of high school.

One can make the argument: "Well, Aim - you need to join a union and demand $40 an hour, as that would be more fair, right?"

Well - I'd take $40 an hour if it was offered to me - but I consider the current wage fair for my conditions of employment, for the job, and for the pay/cost ratio it provides.

And the fact is that it'd be unreasonable for them to pay that much money for the responsibilities of that position. Which - logically - means that the industries in and around Detroit were paying unreasonable labor costs for the positions they had to fill. Since unions controlled their labor supply - Unions were able to continually demand more money and more benefits from employers under threat of strike.

Few unions, these days, are noble and honorable institutions upholding the founding principles of unions (which was to train, culture, and offer support to their members). But that's another story.

Anyway - you also had other problems (all high-paying-labor regions have this)... You'll get people who temporarily relocate to the region - commune-rent for cheap - bank something like twenty to thirty thousand dollars over a couple years, and then move back to low cost of living areas. A considerable portion of the employee income goes to other regions in the nation.

Which reduces government revenue. Which causes them to increase taxes to fund all of their wonderful social endeavors to feed people simply because they are alive to feed (then they wonder why the middle class is evaporating).

It's no wonder, then, in areas with lower taxes, laws against mandatory union membership for employment, and lower costs of living (lower employee wage requirements for the same quality of life)... you see businesses moving -in-.

China has, already, mostly culled our industries of about all it can. While there are still some endangered industries - it's pretty much run its course. China's hit a wall in terms of competitiveness. They need more efficient energy production (which has them coming back to us for electrical power solutions that they can't produce themselves, and won't for quite a while), and many of their high-tech industries are still in their infancy. They are barely cost-competitive with American domestic varieties of the same quality and their industries are still fraught with the 'old mentality' that was more permissive of manufacturing defects.

So, most of the businesses 'leaving' areas of the U.S. are either relocating to other regions (state-state competition) or simply closing up due to shrinking of the domestic or global economic regions they target (... or mismanagement).

Which is exactly what you see happening in Detroit.

GM is failing due to some mismanagement and other things - they are shrinking while companies like Toyota continue right on trucking and open up manufacturing facilities all over the U.S. Toyota isn't setting up shop in Detroit because it would be stupid to do so.

The same with IBM, Google, Microsoft, and other tech companies that have been opening up centers around places like Texas and I know of a couple new projects in Missouri.

Detroit's solution to their problems is predictable within the line of progressive liberals: raise taxes, increase welfare spending (or defund other programs to keep it going), and campaign about how evil businesses are and how the government will do something about the problems people are facing.

Who is left in Detroit?

Mostly people receiving some form of government stipend. People on federal and state welfare, people who are retired or on Social Security; basically, people who didn't rely upon practical paying jobs for their existence. Everyone else has moved.

Which is, precisely, why we shouldn't help Detroit. We should simply delete it from the maps or mark it as Babylon as a sign of things to come.

I'm not saying we should go into Syria, either. Both are misguided causes, if you ask me (noble as they may appear).

 

[Hawker]

Obama is a moron, too bad 70% of Americans are idiots and elect the same corrupt politicians time after time

It's the same thing with every other democratic country.

"It's in the nature of goverments"​

 

[Penguin]

If you need to state in the title that this is not a hate thread, then it is. It is like me telling someone I have a black joke, and it is not racist. :|