Will Naruto be saved by plot in his fight against Sasuke?

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i repped u for the effort , 65 points in a well organised manner, i can imagine how long it took u.

Whether naruto/sasuke will be saved by plot or not, cannot be told by us, the fans, it is something only kishi has to decide.
 

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you're basically nitpicking to make your case, naruto has never been saved from a 1 on 1 fight with sasuke also a lot of the times naruto was saved in part 1 was due to his lack of experience but naruto also proved his worth as many times as he has been saved.

who was it that saved kakashi from the water prison?

who was that saved sasuke from gaara?

who was that saved sasuke from orochimaru?

or yeah who was it who saved an entire village from pain?

when you nitpick little things to put naruto down you miss the point of the story, by having naruto get saved it shows he has vulnerability as well as showing that he isnt perfect and having him save his teachers and friends show that he has built bonds and by having naruto in situations where he may lose makes the plot that much more interesting.

so when naruto and sasuke fight it will be like a game of tag, like how it was in their fight in the valley of ends
 

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Naruto was not shown to be that fast in BM and it is also a huge, making him a target for Amaterasu. Naruto can get rid of the clock, thus get rid of the fire, but he wastes much chackra on creating the cloak.
And....THIS is how Sasuke beats Naruto? By awkwardly making him undo one of his forms? Um.... jesus christ where to begin.

You really do speak another language to everyone else on this forum, i'm done. It's clear you really are just a Sasuke fan trying to be discrete about trying to humiliate the main character. The main character had the most screentime. That is all there is to it, this won't affect a single thing in the final battle- because you fail to grasp that this is a story and that if a climax will occur, with such a dramatic 1 v 1- other people/tiny outside factors won't come into it.
 

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Without a doubt will the final, and to some, most thrilling battle be full of plot control on both sides. The fact that the shinobi alliance is even still around; Sasuke and naruto included is plot no jutsu.

So.. I guess some of it will be In Naruto's favor. But Sasuke will get his fair share too! That is. Unless Oro takes his body at least.
 

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Naruto being constantly saved by plot, by others and by lucky moves in his fights is pretty much visible; and not only in his fights. Being a fictional story, all characters are pawns of the author, but Naruto seems very plot-reliant and has a plot-based worth as a character.

Since I make these statements, the duty of showing proof and backing up my arguments with facts is entirely mine. Those being said, let’s continue reading what is hidden in the tags below so that “man, what are you talking about?” will get out of your head.

All the listed situations were life-or-death situations, or at least situations that would have leaved Naruto incapacitated to fight or have taken him out of the game.

1. Iruka puts his life in danger to save Naruto .
2. Naruto is in the same team with Sasuke, someone who understood the importance of team-work in the end of the test , thus the whole team passed .
3. Sasuke saves Naruto from being seriously wounded while Kakashi was not around .
4. Sakura saves Naruto from Zabuza’s attack .
5. Naruto being saved by Sasuke who put his life in danger .
6. Kurama decides to help Naruto, who had no chance against Haku .
7. Kabuto stops Naruto from opening the scroll , saving him from the consequences .
8. Kurama gives Naruto chackra to be able to summon the frog and save his life, while Jiraiya had no intent of saving Naruto .
9. Kurama helps Naruto to use his chackra network again after he had it blocked by Neji .
10. Kisame was ready to cut Naruto’s legs off, but Itachi stopped him .
11. Jiraiya saves Naruto in a life-or-death situation .
12. Tsunade helps Naruto not to lose his life .
13. Kurama heals Naruto’s lethal wounds .
14. Sasuke spares Naruto’s life .
15. Naruto is lucky enough to be saved from the fake Itachi’s genjutsu .
16. Sai prevents Naruto from having his life taken .
17. Kurama asks for Naruto not to be killed .
18. By plot, Orochimaru stops Sasuke from killing Naruto .
19. Naruto being saved from Kurama taking over by Yamato’s wood .
20. Naruto has his life saved by Kakashi, who stopped Kakuzu to take his heart .
21. Naruto being saved by the frog from turning into stone .
22. Naruto being saved again from the same fate .
23. Naruto being saved by the clone he left behind .
24. Naruto being saved by the natural energy absorption bug, thus not being captured by Pain .
25. Hinata saving Naruto from being captured .
26. Naruto being saved from Pain by Kurama .
27. Naruto being saved from Kurama taking over by his father .
28. Kurama saves Naruto from Nagato’s attack .
29. Nagato allows an exhausted Naruto not to be captured .
30. Naruto being saved by talk no jutsu .
31. Naruto was saved from dying by poison .
32. Killer B saves Naruto from a direct and powerful hit .
33. Naruto being saved by his mother from being overpowered by Kurama .
34. Naruto being saved for the first time in his life by his father from Tobi .
35. Naruto being saved by his parents .
36. Naruto receiving Kurama from his parents , a fox that saved his life countless times.
37. Naruto being indirectly saved by Kabuto who asked Tobi not to go after him .
38. Naruto being stopped from facing Kabuto .
39. Killer B saving Naruto’s life from his brother who had killing intent .
40. Tsunade opposes the idea of Naruto being killed .
50. Itachi saving Naruto from a certain death .
51. Naruto being again saved by Itachi who used his analytical skills .
52. Itachi saving Naruto from himself .
53. Naruto being saved from being captured by Tobi .
54. An out of chackra Naruto who obtains by plot Kurama’s friendship and a random power-up (Biju Mode) .
55. Kurama/Random power-up saved Naruto from an enormous TBB .
56. Kakashi saving Naruto .
57. Naruto being saved by Ino and the ninja army .
58. Naruto being saved by Hinata, who was saved by Neji .
59. Hinata saves Naruto from losing himself after a friend’s death .
60. Naruto being saved by his father from a certain death .
61. The barrier made by the Hokage saves Naruto .
62. Sasuke saving Naruto in a life-or-death situation .
63. Minato saving Naruto’s life .
64. Naruto is saved and protected by Minato and Sasuke (Susanoo covers him) .
65. Once again, Naruto was saved from a certain death .​

All characters were saved, but Naruto was the most.

The chances are pretty high for Naruto to be saved by plot in his fight against Sasuke, thus this subject needed to be debated.

Will Naruto be saved by plot in his fight against Sasuke?

Also, how will he be saved? By a friend or random character? Random power-up? Sasuke being merciful when delivering the final blow?

Wow lol. Iruka still got Saved by Naruto so that's irrelevant. Kurama is Naruto's power, Naruto has the Sage's body which he used to use the Juubi and passed down the sealing jutsus for Jinchuurikis. So Saying Kurama saved Naruto is the same as saying everytime Sasuke used his Sharingan which are the Sage's eyes that he's being saved so all of those Kurama ones are out since Kurama is a power Naruto had to work hard to use just like mastering the Sharingan. Sakura saving Naruto from Zabuza? sakura was helpless period. Saying that discredits you haha.

Plot saved Sasuke just about the same, even more in Shippuden.
 

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you're basically nitpicking to make your case, naruto has never been saved from a 1 on 1 fight with sasuke also a lot of the times naruto was saved in part 1 was due to his lack of experience but naruto also proved his worth as many times as he has been saved.

who was it that saved kakashi from the water prison?

who was that saved sasuke from gaara?

who was that saved sasuke from orochimaru?

or yeah who was it who saved an entire village from pain?

when you nitpick little things to put naruto down you miss the point of the story, by having naruto get saved it shows he has vulnerability as well as showing that he isnt perfect and having him save his teachers and friends show that he has built bonds and by having naruto in situations where he may lose makes the plot that much more interesting.

so when naruto and sasuke fight it will be like a game of tag, like how it was in their fight in the valley of ends

First of all, I recall Naruto being not killed by Sasuke in their last battle in part 1, when Naruto was unconscious laying on the ground. Wait, we can’t call that 1 on 1, Naruto was helped by Kurama after all. As power-ups, while Naruto had Kurama, Sasuke had his cursed seal, but the sale does not have a consciousness on its own.

All characters were lacking experience at a point in their lives, all of them had to be saved and helped, but my point is that this thing was never wrong. I was just showing you Naruto being saved and debated if this pattern would continue in his upcoming fight.

There is no need to count how many each character saved, this is not a save count VS save count thread.

I do not miss anything from the story, since I do not try to put Naruto down for being saved as you said earlier.

Their last fight in part 1 was far from being “a game of tag” since Sasuke had real killing intent and Naruto promised that he was going to broke each of Sasuke’s bones to bring him back, it was a fight more serious from what were you making it to look like.

And....THIS is how Sasuke beats Naruto? By awkwardly making him undo one of his forms? Um.... jesus christ where to begin.

You really do speak another language to everyone else on this forum, i'm done. It's clear you really are just a Sasuke fan trying to be discrete about trying to humiliate the main character. The main character had the most screentime. That is all there is to it, this won't affect a single thing in the final battle- because you fail to grasp that this is a story and that if a climax will occur, with such a dramatic 1 v 1- other people/tiny outside factors won't come into it.

Awkwardly? Amaterasu is his ability so I see no problem is using it. The majority of people hit with it cannot get rid of the flames, yet Naruto might be able to. Also, I did not say that their fight could have resumed only to this move; your statement is rather wrong.

Since I never said that being saved is wrong, I see no way for me to be trying to discriminate him.

You say that because of plot/story their fight will occur and that it will be a 1 vs 1, but you call me a fanboy for using the plot/story by showing manga pages when Naruto was saved, thus showing the probability for this to occur. It seems pretty much like using double standards.

And about the language, even if I'm not a native speaker, I always use English here. I do not speak a different language as you claim. I often have grammar mistakes due to fast-writing and English not being my native language, I do not have an innate ability to figure out what sentence is right or wrong without grammatically-analyzing it. Go too Google translator and paste one of my replies, the language will be identified as being English. I have no better proof than this.
 

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Everything in the series is around Plot. Plot makes this manga move forward, plot makes this story where it is now...
 

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Wow lol. Iruka still got Saved by Naruto so that's irrelevant. Kurama is Naruto's power, Naruto has the Sage's body which he used to use the Juubi and passed down the sealing jutsus for Jinchuurikis. So Saying Kurama saved Naruto is the same as saying everytime Sasuke used his Sharingan which are the Sage's eyes that he's being saved so all of those Kurama ones are out since Kurama is a power Naruto had to work hard to use just like mastering the Sharingan. Sakura saving Naruto from Zabuza? sakura was helpless period. Saying that discredits you haha.

Plot saved Sasuke just about the same, even more in Shippuden.

Iruka being saved by him does not make irrelevant my point. I was showing the patters of Naruto being saved during the story, not saying who was saved and did or did not save back the person.

Kurama is pretty much his power, but the fox has a consciousness on its own.

I do not say that you are doing this, but people discredit pretty much Madara for using Kurama against the first, but the same always say that there is nothing wrong with Naruto doing the same stuff. Just double standards regarding people’s favorite clans. (This has nothing to do with your reply, just a side-note on Kurama being someone’s power).

Also, Kurama is not to be compared with Sasuke’s ocular powers. Sasuke’s innate ability to awaken some of the sharingan forms is from his clan, like Naruto’s ability to be the perfect choice to be the host of the tailed fox, since he is from the Uzumaki clan. Kurama is more like Itachi’s eyes going to Sasuke.

Sakura did save him if you look carefully in the panel when she jumps on him and takes him down, making him dodge Zabuza’s attack. All is in the scan I have posted earlier in my OP.

Sasuke being saved more times than Naruto, in part one or part two is highly improbable. You just stated it, while I brought an entire list with proof, so just saying it has little power against my point.
 

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SeBa said:
what can sasuke do to naruto ? .. lol. ) maybe if he get's some power-ups wil be a threat.

Kuuybi said:
Agreeed ^^^^

Sasuke still has to show the full potential of his EMS. He can use Amaterasu more efficient and he also has it integrated in his Susanoo. Even if by comparing them Naruto seems to have more raw power, Sasuke is able to use his attacks more efficiently.

He does not need any power-up to compete Naruto.

Either way, the story's patters of Naruto being saved is pretty much visible, making it more likely for him to be saved in his fight against Sasuke.
 

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In Harry Potter ... Harry get saved most of the times, but he is still the Boy Who lived and killed Voldemort ...
In Lord of the Rings .... Frodo got his ass saved countless times .... he is still the Ring Destroyer .....
etc etc etc

In a story which preaches teamwork effort and unity ... you are bound to see collective effort.

PS Thefapguy .... you better actually do something with your life, the way your wasting it with your trollingitis or sasuke-fanboyism will not win u anything irl.
 

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Naruto is "saved by plot" which is stupid because you can just say saved by people.

Anyways, Naruto is saved by plot because the manga is called NARUTO,and he gets by far the most screen time as this manga centers around his life and story. You know who gets saved the second most...yep, Sasuke does. You know why? Because he is the main characters rival and gets the second most screen time.

Honestly, the thing that has saved Naruto the most is Kurama. Which is really his power because its because of his large chakra that makes Kurama not be able to crush him through the seal very few character in the manga can hold a tailed beast inside them with or without a seal.
 

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Naruto being constantly saved by plot, by others and by lucky moves in his fights is pretty much visible; and not only in his fights. Being a fictional story, all characters are pawns of the author, but Naruto seems very plot-reliant and has a plot-based worth as a character.

Since I make these statements, the duty of showing proof and backing up my arguments with facts is entirely mine. Those being said, let’s continue reading what is hidden in the tags below so that “man, what are you talking about?” will get out of your head.

All the listed situations were life-or-death situations, or at least situations that would have leaved Naruto incapacitated to fight or have taken him out of the game.

1. Iruka puts his life in danger to save Naruto .
2. Naruto is in the same team with Sasuke, someone who understood the importance of team-work in the end of the test , thus the whole team passed .
3. Sasuke saves Naruto from being seriously wounded while Kakashi was not around .
4. Sakura saves Naruto from Zabuza’s attack .
5. Naruto being saved by Sasuke who put his life in danger .
6. Kurama decides to help Naruto, who had no chance against Haku .
7. Kabuto stops Naruto from opening the scroll , saving him from the consequences .
8. Kurama gives Naruto chackra to be able to summon the frog and save his life, while Jiraiya had no intent of saving Naruto .
9. Kurama helps Naruto to use his chackra network again after he had it blocked by Neji .
10. Kisame was ready to cut Naruto’s legs off, but Itachi stopped him .
11. Jiraiya saves Naruto in a life-or-death situation .
12. Tsunade helps Naruto not to lose his life .
13. Kurama heals Naruto’s lethal wounds .
14. Sasuke spares Naruto’s life .
15. Naruto is lucky enough to be saved from the fake Itachi’s genjutsu .
16. Sai prevents Naruto from having his life taken .
17. Kurama asks for Naruto not to be killed .
18. By plot, Orochimaru stops Sasuke from killing Naruto .
19. Naruto being saved from Kurama taking over by Yamato’s wood .
20. Naruto has his life saved by Kakashi, who stopped Kakuzu to take his heart .
21. Naruto being saved by the frog from turning into stone .
22. Naruto being saved again from the same fate .
23. Naruto being saved by the clone he left behind .
24. Naruto being saved by the natural energy absorption bug, thus not being captured by Pain .
25. Hinata saving Naruto from being captured .
26. Naruto being saved from Pain by Kurama .
27. Naruto being saved from Kurama taking over by his father .
28. Kurama saves Naruto from Nagato’s attack .
29. Nagato allows an exhausted Naruto not to be captured .
30. Naruto being saved by talk no jutsu .
31. Naruto was saved from dying by poison .
32. Killer B saves Naruto from a direct and powerful hit .
33. Naruto being saved by his mother from being overpowered by Kurama .
34. Naruto being saved for the first time in his life by his father from Tobi .
35. Naruto being saved by his parents .
36. Naruto receiving Kurama from his parents , a fox that saved his life countless times.
37. Naruto being indirectly saved by Kabuto who asked Tobi not to go after him .
38. Naruto being stopped from facing Kabuto .
39. Killer B saving Naruto’s life from his brother who had killing intent .
40. Tsunade opposes the idea of Naruto being killed .
50. Itachi saving Naruto from a certain death .
51. Naruto being again saved by Itachi who used his analytical skills .
52. Itachi saving Naruto from himself .
53. Naruto being saved from being captured by Tobi .
54. An out of chackra Naruto who obtains by plot Kurama’s friendship and a random power-up (Biju Mode) .
55. Kurama/Random power-up saved Naruto from an enormous TBB .
56. Kakashi saving Naruto .
57. Naruto being saved by Ino and the ninja army .
58. Naruto being saved by Hinata, who was saved by Neji .
59. Hinata saves Naruto from losing himself after a friend’s death .
60. Naruto being saved by his father from a certain death .
61. The barrier made by the Hokage saves Naruto .
62. Sasuke saving Naruto in a life-or-death situation .
63. Minato saving Naruto’s life .
64. Naruto is saved and protected by Minato and Sasuke (Susanoo covers him) .
65. Once again, Naruto was saved from a certain death .​

All characters were saved, but Naruto was the most.

The chances are pretty high for Naruto to be saved by plot in his fight against Sasuke, thus this subject needed to be debated.

Will Naruto be saved by plot in his fight against Sasuke?

Also, how will he be saved? By a friend or random character? Random power-up? Sasuke being merciful when delivering the final blow?

I actually read your list of naruto being saved and if you exclude him saving himself(really number 23 lmao), and Kurama then your list isnt that long
 

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I think Sasuke is long over-due for some major power-ups. What will it be? Well, I can't say too much. Probably related to the tree
 

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Naruto wasn't saved by plot as many times as you suggest. At the beginning yes, because he wasn't that skilled of a ninja, but the whole point is that he's determined. There was a point where he didn't want anyone to save his life again, and so he improved. Some of them are not saved by plot, they have to happen. if Naruto and Bee went all out against Raikage and Tsunade, he'd lose a significant amount of chakra and both kages wouldn't be of any use in the coming war. Naruto in his current form is strong, no argument from anyone, but Sasuke, regardless of plot, is superior in every category. Intelligence, there's no argument there, willpower is a tough one, Sasuke suppressed the cursed mark with just willpower, and learned the chidori with his own skills and chakra, Naruto wouldn't have learned Rasengan so fast if he didn't have the Nine Tails. The Nine Tails was a significant source of his chakra that he used to practice. After the time skip Naruto learned Sage Mode and Sasuke learned numerous techniques not requiring Sharingan, such as kirin, and kenjutsu. He subjected himself to all sorts of poison and in doing so is immune to almost all poisons except a few of Orochimaru's strongest poison techniques. In terms of chakra, with EMS and Nine tails, Naruto has more vast reserves, however, Sasuke conserves significantly more chakra than when he just had MS. As for abilities, Naruto could blast a Bijuu bomb but Sasuke can tunnel underground with his summon, and do aerial combat, but we haven't seen what he possesses yet like perfect Susano'o, and he is also well capable of mastering sage mode. Basically now, Naruto has him beat in dealing more damage to an area, Kirin can break Susano'o and mountains, however, the destructive power of the nine tails is superior, but Sasuke won't just sit there and get blasted. His speed is faster than Naruto when he's not in Sage Mode, and considering there's gonna be another arc after this, we will see Sasuke getting major power ups, and Naruto I don't see him getting anything else besides the other half of Nine Tails. Currently, Naruto is ahead of the game as far as we know seeing as Kishimoto hasn't revealed anything since Sasuke came to the battlefield besides Aoda.
 
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Only thing that was stopping Naruto from stomping Sasuke was his emotions.
 

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Sasuke stands no chance against BM, naruto got BM/SM and he is more haxxed...you are just a fanboy... anyone who is not a fanboy can actually tell the difference in power between the two, you are right though the manga is called naruto, not sasuke.
 

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In Harry Potter ... Harry get saved most of the times, but he is still the Boy Who lived and killed Voldemort ...
In Lord of the Rings .... Frodo got his ass saved countless times .... he is still the Ring Destroyer .....
etc etc etc

In a story which preaches teamwork effort and unity ... you are bound to see collective effort.

PS Thefapguy .... you better actually do something with your life, the way your wasting it with your trollingitis or sasuke-fanboyism will not win u anything irl.

As you said, you are bound to see team-work, and this was why I was questioning if he might he helped or not, by showing the pattern of the story.
 
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