[FEAR] Sasuke and Rikudo: Plot Exposed

[Mr Hiru]

I agree. Furthermore, I have to add a little piece to your puzzle...

The Sage didn't just give some information to the Elder Son through the Tablet. He told the Elder son that Peace couldn't be achieved with power alone, and the proof is the history of how Kaguya Ootsutsuki failed to reach peace using power. In other words, the Sage gave the Elder son the proof of why 'power' alone wouldn't work, he changed Madara's insight about peace.

 

[Byron123]

Well everything is nice but there is a basic problem here. Infinitive tsukuyomi is not what it looks like, it's a way to cause worldwide genocide. Think about it. You're under a genjutsu for days, you don't eat, don't drink nothing. This will cause everyone to die and the only ones who will actually be able to live in that dream forever are obito and madara because of their hashirama dna and also the edo tensei since they don't biological needs. So in short, do you think that the sage would support such a thing?

 

[FearxDeath]

Well everything is nice but there is a basic problem here. Infinitive tsukuyomi is not what it looks like, it's a way to cause worldwide genocide. Think about it. You're under a genjutsu for days, you don't eat, don't drink nothing. This will cause everyone to die and the only ones who will actually be able to live in that dream forever are obito and madara because of their hashirama dna and also the edo tensei since they don't biological needs. So in short, do you think that the sage would support such a thing?

Well here is the thing though, and this is taking a darker side but its still fairly logical. If you have a horse with a broken leg.. You shoot it. Not because you wish the horse ill will, but because you know that a horse wont be able to survive without a leg and that a quick peaceful death is better than a lingering painful one.

The world was purging into chaos, remember the Blood Mist? Where the graduate students of the academy fought each other to the death? Only survivor was Zabuza? Uchiha and Senju fighting each other for centuries... The use of Tailed Beasts as weapons. The world was broken, the only difference is that some people think that over time with peace and understanding it will heal. Others believe that it should be put out of its misery. I dont think its evil to want to put the world out of its misery, especially one which Obito and Madara believe the be "Hell"


BTW =D Did you get that from my thread or is that just a coincedence.

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[Byron123]

Well here is the thing though, and this is taking a darker side but its still fairly logical. If you have a horse with a broken leg.. You shoot it. Not because you wish the horse ill will, but because you know that a horse wont be able to survive without a leg and that a quick peaceful death is better than a lingering painful one.

The world was purging into chaos, remember the Blood Mist? Where the graduate students of the academy fought each other to the death? Only survivor was Zabuza? Uchiha and Senju fighting each other for centuries... The use of Tailed Beasts as weapons. The world was broken, the only difference is that some people think that over time with peace and understanding it will heal. Others believe that it should be put out of its misery. I dont think its evil to want to put the world out of its misery, especially one which Obito and Madara believe the be "Hell"


BTW =D Did you get that from my thread or is that just a coincedence.

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Lol no I haven't read any other from you. I tried to but when I saw how many parts each one had_@: But in any case, this far too extreme, so you're suggesting that the sage had so little faith for the future? If that so then why did he take so many measures to prevent it if at some moment he expected that it would be needed.

 

[FearxDeath]

Lol no I haven't read any other from you. I tried to but when I saw how many parts each one had_@: But in any case, this far too extreme, so you're suggesting that the sage had so little faith for the future? If that so then why did he take so many measures to prevent it if at some moment he expected that it would be needed.

"Lol no I haven't read any other from you. I tried to but when I saw how many parts each one had_@:" ROFL!!!! HAHAHAA

He didnt take any measures. He merely did 1 thing, he gave the younger brother a chance to find peace, and created the tablet so that a descendant of the Elder brother with the right attitude (Eternal Sharingan) would be able to carry out his plan if the younger brother did infact fail.

I dont know what you mean by "So many measures to prevent it" If your talking about sealing the Juubi, he did that because the Juubi isnt a nice thing and when he died it would be free to roam around. Sealing the Juubi had nothing to do with giving the younger brother a chance. It was mainly and purely to keep the Juubi at bay.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Nice theory! It would be an epic plot twist.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Well everything is nice but there is a basic problem here. Infinitive tsukuyomi is not what it looks like, it's a way to cause worldwide genocide. Think about it. You're under a genjutsu for days, you don't eat, don't drink nothing. This will cause everyone to die and the only ones who will actually be able to live in that dream forever are obito and madara because of their hashirama dna and also the edo tensei since they don't biological needs. So in short, do you think that the sage would support such a thing?

Well here is the thing though, and this is taking a darker side but its still fairly logical. If you have a horse with a broken leg.. You shoot it. Not because you wish the horse ill will, but because you know that a horse wont be able to survive without a leg and that a quick peaceful death is better than a lingering painful one.

The world was purging into chaos, remember the Blood Mist? Where the graduate students of the academy fought each other to the death? Only survivor was Zabuza? Uchiha and Senju fighting each other for centuries... The use of Tailed Beasts as weapons. The world was broken, the only difference is that some people think that over time with peace and understanding it will heal. Others believe that it should be put out of its misery. I dont think its evil to want to put the world out of its misery, especially one which Obito and Madara believe the be "Hell"


BTW =D Did you get that from my thread or is that just a coincedence.

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Lol no I haven't read any other from you. I tried to but when I saw how many parts each one had_@: But in any case, this far too extreme, so you're suggesting that the sage had so little faith for the future? If that so then why did he take so many measures to prevent it if at some moment he expected that it would be needed.

"Lol no I haven't read any other from you. I tried to but when I saw how many parts each one had_@:" ROFL!!!! HAHAHAA

He didnt take any measures. He merely did 1 thing, he gave the younger brother a chance to find peace, and created the tablet so that a descendant of the Elder brother with the right attitude (Eternal Sharingan) would be able to carry out his plan if the younger brother did infact fail.

I dont know what you mean by "So many measures to prevent it" If your talking about sealing the Juubi, he did that because the Juubi isnt a nice thing and when he died it would be free to roam around. Sealing the Juubi had nothing to do with giving the younger brother a chance. It was mainly and purely to keep the Juubi at bay.

Hey hey! Can I join the discussion? XD

 

[FearxDeath]

Hey hey! Can I join the discussion? XD

ofcourse lol

 

[adeshina365]

Excellent theory, seems plausible.

 

[grenwood]

or it could be that the infinite tsukyome was the elder brothers plan, but the sages plan was infinite izanami and he did follow through with it. if you look at all the parrelels throughout the naruto world history and then look at what izanami did to kabuto, then it would make sense that the naruto world is in one super big super advanced izanami. it would explain the sages final conversation to the bijuu where it seemed as if the sage had the same power that the giant toad sage had to see the future. it turns out he didnt have that power but knew that because of izanami it was the only possible outcome, because history would keep repeating itself until it came to the proper conclusion which would be the sage reincarnate aka naruto leading the bijuu down the right path.

 

[H a n]

Would be pretty cool if the sage was a bad guy.

 

[Zyael]

I got myself some chips, a drink, and got a sammich but didin't make it and sat down and read this. I like this theory a lot aha keep it up!

 

[Mr Hiru]

Well everything is nice but there is a basic problem here. Infinitive tsukuyomi is not what it looks like, it's a way to cause worldwide genocide. Think about it. You're under a genjutsu for days, you don't eat, don't drink nothing. This will cause everyone to die and the only ones who will actually be able to live in that dream forever are obito and madara because of their hashirama dna and also the edo tensei since they don't biological needs. So in short, do you think that the sage would support such a thing?

Well here is the thing though, and this is taking a darker side but its still fairly logical. If you have a horse with a broken leg.. You shoot it. Not because you wish the horse ill will, but because you know that a horse wont be able to survive without a leg and that a quick peaceful death is better than a lingering painful one.

The world was purging into chaos, remember the Blood Mist? Where the graduate students of the academy fought each other to the death? Only survivor was Zabuza? Uchiha and Senju fighting each other for centuries... The use of Tailed Beasts as weapons. The world was broken, the only difference is that some people think that over time with peace and understanding it will heal. Others believe that it should be put out of its misery. I dont think its evil to want to put the world out of its misery, especially one which Obito and Madara believe the be "Hell"


BTW =D Did you get that from my thread or is that just a coincedence.

You must be registered for see links

Lol no I haven't read any other from you. I tried to but when I saw how many parts each one had_@: But in any case, this far too extreme, so you're suggesting that the sage had so little faith for the future? If that so then why did he take so many measures to prevent it if at some moment he expected that it would be needed.

"Lol no I haven't read any other from you. I tried to but when I saw how many parts each one had_@:" ROFL!!!! HAHAHAA

He didnt take any measures. He merely did 1 thing, he gave the younger brother a chance to find peace, and created the tablet so that a descendant of the Elder brother with the right attitude (Eternal Sharingan) would be able to carry out his plan if the younger brother did infact fail.

I dont know what you mean by "So many measures to prevent it" If your talking about sealing the Juubi, he did that because the Juubi isnt a nice thing and when he died it would be free to roam around. Sealing the Juubi had nothing to do with giving the younger brother a chance. It was mainly and purely to keep the Juubi at bay.

ofcourse lol

.... But I have a problem.

I don't agree with both of you lmfao XD

 

[FearxDeath]

or it could be that the infinite tsukyome was the elder brothers plan, but the sages plan was infinite izanami and he did follow through with it. if you look at all the parrelels throughout the naruto world history and then look at what izanami did to kabuto, then it would make sense that the naruto world is in one super big super advanced izanami. it would explain the sages final conversation to the bijuu where it seemed as if the sage had the same power that the giant toad sage had to see the future. it turns out he didnt have that power but knew that because of izanami it was the only possible outcome, because history would keep repeating itself until it came to the proper conclusion which would be the sage reincarnate aka naruto leading the bijuu down the right path.

If the Juubi was upset that people stole a portion of its power how do you think it would feel about them sacrificing its eye to cast Izanami.The juubi is a myterious and powerful creation... The sage was wise enough to tread carefully.

.... But I have a problem.

I don't agree with both of you lmfao XD

LOL _@:

 

[Mr Hiru]

LOL _@:

Jokes aside, I don't agree with both of you.

ò_ó

...LMFAO

:hyper:

 

[Tera Path]

This was barely a read about Sasuke, more about Madara if you ask me.


Why do you put [FEAR] before everything u put in each and every single theory you make?

 

[FearxDeath]

This was barely a read about Sasuke, more about Madara if you ask me.


Why do you put [FEAR] before everything u put in each and every single theory you make?

You ask this same question in every single thread I make, and I answer this question in everythread I make. I recommend you go to one of my other threads which you replied with the same question and look for the answer I gave.

 

[Tera Path]

You ask this same question in every single thread I make, and I answer this question in everythread I make. I recommend you go to one of my other threads which you replied with the same question and look for the answer I gave.

Probably forgot i posted that other question.

But just because i asked it once before, doesn't mean that i do it everytime.

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

Remember he had 2 sons who differed on how peace would be obtained, the Elder believed in Peace through force (Military Rule) while the younger believed in peace through understanding (Democracy).

Seriously what the hell made you conclude that the believe in peace through understanding is democracy.. democracy is what leads to military rule, democracy is 5 wolves and a sheep voting for what's for dinner.. Government is what the elder brother believed in, cause government is force, or rather violence.. the younger brother was an anarchist.. The only true peace.. an - the absence of, no.. archon - ruler, master... anarchy - the absence of rulers.

Rikkudou can pass the torch as much as he wants.. but the younger brother isn't anybody's ruler.. as long as people don't understand that they own themselves and everybody else owns theirselves.. and people continue to believe in the religion called "authority" there will always be violence.. cause people think continual violence is necessary. There is no understanding. It's just stupid sheep being manipulated into a direction by a small minority that does have a bigger understanding of how things work but in stead of sharing that with the world they occultize (occult - hidden) it and misuse it to control people.

 

[FearxDeath]

Probably forgot i posted that other question.

But just because i asked it once before, doesn't mean that i do it everytime.

Well the reason is because the only threads I make are [Theory] thread, and it felt redundant to keep on saying Theory thread as I only make theories. I personally felt like putting [Fear] instead was a better way to go. Sorry you disprove, because its going to suck to have to keep getting on in the future to see more of my threads labeled as [Fear]. Hell I may throw a second [Fear] in there just for you... [Fear][Fear]

Seriously what the hell made you conclude that the believe in peace through understanding is democracy.. democracy is what leads to military rule, democracy is 5 wolves and a sheep voting for what's for dinner.. Government is what the elder brother believed in, cause government is force, or rather violence.. the younger brother was an anarchist.. The only true peace.. an - the absence of, no.. archon - ruler, master... anarchy - the absence of rulers.

Rikkudou can pass the torch as much as he wants.. but the younger brother isn't anybody's ruler.. as long as people don't understand that they own themselves and everybody else owns theirselves.. and people continue to believe in the religion called "authority" there will always be violence.. cause people think continual violence is necessary. There is no understanding. It's just stupid sheep being manipulated into a direction by a small minority that does have a bigger understanding of how things work but in stead of sharing that with the world they occultize (occult - hidden) it and misuse it to control people.

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Do you see where Tobirama says from now on we will use Democracy?