[VS] Juubito Vs Aizen

[Transcendence]

Obito easily takes this.

 

[P3ĮÑ 👑]

i LOVE how you commented on just this part of my post.

i already explained what happened with the girl and Aizen's raitsu.

He bought it down to a level where she could sense it himself, since ishin or Uruhara could sense his Reitsu, and she still didnt die despite being so close to him with only a fodder level of spirit energy..

and NO i already said don't do these conversions between raitsu and chakra to measure the characters (a shinigami's raitsu is not the same), the rules dont' change and obito is still human/limited so he can gain all the power in NV and it won't make a difference.

chakra is 50% physical and 50% spiritual, there you go. If Ichigo's siblings with almost no spiritual power can do it then obito obviously can...being a human whatever doesn't count as a factor in a debate, there are humans in fiction who can reality warp on a mulitversal level, and saying Aizen defeats them is absurd, with that said, JUUBITO outclasses him in every standard, speed wise being above Mach 117, and durability and DC wise both above island level, Aizen got solo'd by a city level+ mugetsu..( he got considerably damaged)

in Aizen's fight with ichigo, ichigo's sword swings were the ones changing the landscapes BUT then Aizen transformed into the form i posted in my first post here (a huge increase in power).

That doesn't quantify destructive capacity, monster Aizens so far has shown city level feats, his fraggor is 20 megatons whereas the JUUBI's TBB is in the terratons range..

while obito may be super fast (like Aizen for the sake of the argument) and posses destructive tech at the moment, you still didn't say how he will see/sense Aizen (obito is no quincy and that is just a gamble) plus Aizen's Kyōka Suigetsu ability and don't you dare compare it to genjutsu lol

I already explained that, and not being able to see him in a debate is an overrated wank made by bleachf@gs, chakra is 50 percent physical and 50 percent spirit energy, so technically he can see him, nonetheles it isn't a debate if he can't, there's no point to it if he can't see him, it isn't even a likeable debate then....

i hate comparing character from extremely different series's and forgetting the little technicalities between humans and shinigami's for the sake of the argument (in this case measuring it with how much they can blow up with feats is not accurate at all, you already know this).

Wrong, krillin is a human, and he's a moon buster taking the powerscaling off from other characters, just cause the opposing individual is a shinigami doesn't prove superiority among the other opponent...and there are humans in series that can reality warp and erase things on atomic level..

This is a Debate between two characters from different verses, U can't just say Aizen> a human who can planet bust, just cause technically shinigami's are of a superior anomaly, this isn't counted as a main factor in a debate, especially when you're debating against crossovers ..

all i can say about this fight is, it will be short really really short and obito is outclassed (godly power is just a way to measure/describe a strong character, a god in NV is not so special to the other godly powers in other series's).

Aizen is no where near godly power, when ur naming godly, ur naming omnipotents, and cosmic anomalies and all knowing gods..Aizen is nowhere near them, and neither is the so6p, that's why the hogykyu told him to fuk off in the end, right? And a mugetsu from ichigo seriously damaged him ...

Other then anyone here, ur pretty much the only one who's saying Aizen defeats JUUBITO which obviously means u aren't doing something right.

And pretty much adding what this dude said..

Man people do like to overrate the living shit out of Bleach...don't they?.....we are talking about Obito(who has both Continent level+ Destructive Capacity and Durability) and Aizen (who has City level Destructive Capacity and Durability)....this is a shitstomp for Obito...i don't know what is there to debate about...the aruemnt most people like to use is the whole Spiritual Pressure crushing thing and none Bleachverse Character not being able to see shinigamis(which BS as a whole)...in Bleach logic..anyone with a little amount of Spiritual Energy can see Shinigamis and can with stand their so "call" Spiritual Pressure crushing shit....the Narutoverse has three different types of Enegery(Natural,Spiritual,Physical Enegery)...so, you go...that ends the this whole thing of Obito not being able to see Aizen or or his Soul being crushed even though Tatsuki(a normal human) withstood Monster Aizen's Spiritual Pressure but yet a God(Obito) gets his Soul crushed? LAMO.....now, that's gone...Aizen gets shitstomp since he can't neither out run Obito is speed or have any Destructive against Obito.....

 

[shelke]

Aizen. Seeing him or not is past the point. One is a spiritual bring, other has a corporeal form. This shouldn't even be debatable.

 

[Transcendence]

Aizen. Seeing him or not is past the point. One is a spiritual bring, other has a corporeal form. This shouldn't even be debatable.

That logic shouldn't be implied at all in cross verse cases. By that logic, Aizen also beats Goku and the DBZ verse because he can't be seen.

 

[EZQ]

Aizen rapes seriously...

Juubito could be a match maybe for ulquiorra just maybe

 

[shelke]

That logic shouldn't be implied at all in cross verse cases. By that logic, Aizen also beats Goku and the DBZ verse because he can't be seen.

Pretty much. The guy is DEAD. He is a spirit; an intangible being. He cannot be defeated by anything that has a form.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Aizen rapes seriously...

Juubito could be a match maybe for ulquiorra just maybe

Don't wank, ulquiorra gets shitstomped by him. The only thing that will be able to damage him is Lanza which is not going to go off until Segunda Etapa, and Juubito is gonna have him finished in base.

The can't see bleach characters is a false statement. Orihime and Sado pre-powers could see hollows. In fact Sado beat one with a telephone pole. Sensing/detecting spirits is what they cannot do.

As long as one is strong in yin-yang which governs the body soul and mind, they will be able to see them anyways.

Alrighty... So what about the fight?

Quantifiably the two are at around the same speed, aizen is capable of blitzing the captains and captain level opponents while juubito blitzed the kage.

Aizen can also cut you from up to 980 meters via scaling (he is able to cut komamura's bankai in half along with him.)

Furthermore he can control your senses completely with his hypnosis, and warp space/time and disrupt gravity once you are stuck in Kurohitsugi, and block shit up to multi-city block to small town level with Danku.

But this should be nothing with Juubito.. juubito can manipulate all of the elements and **** up matter, he has the ability of flight, use the paths and has a regen factor, however he has only regened from one attack. He CANT negate reiatsu though. And no, reiatsu crush is not going to work on someone who is very enhanced in the mind, soul and the body, it is not a void ability such as the force.

If it's not hogyoku aizen, he should take it mid diff, souls are able to be seen so shut up with your crying wankers, however I can see the millions of aizen's hypnosis is unstoppable etc..

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Pretty much. The guy is DEAD. He is a spirit; an intangible being. He cannot be defeated by anything that has a form.

Ichigo has a form. The only reason ichigo didn't beat him is because of the hogyoku's immortality grant.

Yoruichi, Tessai and Urahara have forms. Sado and Orihime have forms, Uryu too, yet they can beat these beings. Bleach characters are NOT noncorporeal. This is coming from a supporter.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

This thread is hilarious.

 

[shelke]

Ichigo has a form. The only reason ichigo didn't beat him is because of the hogyoku's immortality grant.

Yoruichi, Tessai and Urahara have forms. Sado and Orihime have forms, Uryu too, yet they can beat these beings. Bleach characters are NOT noncorporeal. This is coming from a supporter.

Ichigo's soul is literally detached from his body for the role of Shingami. The rest have artificial bodies when they are on earth - the shinigamis - and Orihime and the rest are comparable to Aizen how? Not only that, my memory on bleach is fuzzy, but they passed through a spirit gate to even be relevant within the spirit realm.

The Shinigamis in their pure form - without bodies on earth - are spirits. Nothing more. They live in Soul Society after their deaths, for god's sake. I don't support any shounen manga, bleach or otherwise. Ichigo wining against Aizen was laughable.

 

[P3ĮÑ 👑]

Pretty much. The guy is DEAD. He is a spirit; an intangible being. He cannot be defeated by anything that has a form.

Common wank posed by bleach tards, they aren't intangible in any means, chad smacked a hollow away with a telephone pole with little to no spiritual energy, and u see them getting sliced and cut, technically they aren't in any way intagible since byakuya was almost getting his ass kicked by a human with fullbring abilities who was corporeal, so there u go.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

not to mention aizens speed way above obito and if he felt complled aizen can use his suigetsu

he even has the ability to warp a persons perception of time like he did to Ju Ha and ichigo

 

[Shura]

Juubito solo's.​

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

The fanboyism in this is too much for my taste

oh so discussing the limitation and the difference between a human and a shinigami is "fanboyism", and because i didn't agree on naruto's ultimate character being stronger then this is fanboyism ?? ......................... sure :erm:

He bought it down to a level where she could sense it himself, since ishin or Uruhara could sense his Reitsu, and she still didnt die despite being so close to him with only a fodder level of spirit energy..



chakra is 50% physical and 50% spiritual, there you go. If Ichigo's siblings with almost no spiritual power can do it then obito obviously can...being a human whatever doesn't count as a factor in a debate, there are humans in fiction who can reality warp on a mulitversal level, and saying Aizen defeats them is absurd, with that said, JUUBITO outclasses him in every standard, speed wise being above Mach 117, and durability and DC wise both above island level, Aizen got solo'd by a city level+ mugetsu..( he got considerably damaged)



That doesn't quantify destructive capacity, monster Aizens so far has shown city level feats, his fraggor is 20 megatons whereas the JUUBI's TBB is in the terratons range..



I already explained that, and not being able to see him in a debate is an overrated wank made by bleachf@gs, chakra is 50 percent physical and 50 percent spirit energy, so technically he can see him, nonetheles it isn't a debate if he can't, there's no point to it if he can't see him, it isn't even a likeable debate then....



Wrong, krillin is a human, and he's a moon buster taking the powerscaling off from other characters, just cause the opposing individual is a shinigami doesn't prove superiority among the other opponent...and there are humans in series that can reality warp and erase things on atomic level..

This is a Debate between two characters from different verses, U can't just say Aizen> a human who can planet bust, just cause technically shinigami's are of a superior anomaly, this isn't counted as a main factor in a debate, especially when you're debating against crossovers ..



Aizen is no where near godly power, when ur naming godly, ur naming omnipotents, and cosmic anomalies and all knowing gods..Aizen is nowhere near them, and neither is the so6p, that's why the hogykyu told him to fuk off in the end, right? And a mugetsu from ichigo seriously damaged him ...

Other then anyone here, ur pretty much the only one who's saying Aizen defeats JUUBITO which obviously means u aren't doing something right.

And pretty much adding what this dude said..

so he did bring down his raitsu .............
and still comparing the raitsu of a shinigami to a limited human sigh, (Aizen is not even in my top 5 favorite bleach characters but this is absurd) "humans in fiction who can reality warp on a mulitversal level" the shinigami rule still applies and obito is not one of these guys/way way weaker.

am only speaking for myself (btw others still think that Aizen takes this) so don't hide behind what others said, they brought nothing to the table and didn't address anything, more like naruto fans refusing someone from another series being superior, not cool/sign of you know ..............

and don't give me this "not being able to see him in a debate is an overrated wank made by bleachf@gs" coz i wanna take you seriously/at least am trying ....................

"Aizen is no where near godly levels" and "And a mugetsu from ichigo seriously damaged him" again measuring the strength of the attack by it's size (as if ichigo's attack wasn't extremely powerful) ...................... why am i doing this :|

 

[Dantee]

Aizen would win imo. His zanpoktou ability alone would mess with Juubito making it almost impossible to land a hit. I don't think rinnegan will allow him to see through that either. Juubito doesn't really have any attacks fast enough to even bother Aizens speed. Aizen with the hogykou also makes him stronger each stage. So eventually I think Aizen will cut him down.

 

[shelke]

Common wank posed by bleach tards, they aren't intangible in any means, chad smacked a hollow away with a telephone pole with little to no spiritual energy, and u see them getting sliced and cut, technically they aren't in any way intagible since byakuya was almost getting his ass kicked by a human with fullbring abilities who was corporeal, so there u go.

Who told you that I even like Bleach? Keep your baseball skit insults for your own feathery flock. They belong there. Intangible and spirit form and different things. Spiritual activity even in our world has had differing cases where spirits were know to move objects, so on and so forth. That proves jack. Point remains that they have no bodily form like the living.

Haven't read that far into bleach so I couldn't care less. Aizen is in the debate, not Byakuya. And I am certain that the Universe has its own justifications for the living besting or pushing the shinigami to the limit. Take the Quincy. Their arrows have no form, but are merely spiritual energy. There you go.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Kyouka Suigetsu GG.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

not to mention aizens speed way above obito and if he felt complled aizen can use his suigetsu

he even has the ability to warp a persons perception of time like he did to Ju Ha and ichigo

Actually Aizen is mach 80's, Jubito is well above mach 140.

 

[Hypemaster]

Aizen Wins. Never shall I break the covenant

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Obito, lmfao.