kakashi vs current gaara?

[Bogard]

Of course, I almost forgot Kakashi's D rank suiton can turn a desert into mud.

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[EKSITE]

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Are you serouis mei used that same techinque and gaara was still able to move his sand in it on top of that they used lightning sand is made of earth and lightning beats earth charge of with water to boost it, The sand was still able to move.

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[xxSasukEkUnxX]

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Don't argue with TheEvilOne. She/he doesn't read the manga and twists shit around for his/her own, despite it being false like Katsuyu being impregnable by any means.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Water Dragon is a non-factor. How do people not understand four words?
Kamui GG
Raikiri GG

 

[AGoodBoy]

And a few pages before that he admitted with the chakra he had wasted during the war he only had enough for a few more. And all that happened there was the eye turning from 3t to Mangekyou. He had to time it so he could get it right at the exact time, so he'd think instead the rasengan was warped, but in actuality, he warped the clone as it dissapeared, both faster than the dissapearance AND the stake killing it.

Hur dur i'm a kamui wanker, who was just proven wrong. Let me now talk out of my ass and make an excuse.

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Kakashi was already building up massive chakra to open the kamui warp hole on the clone. The warp hole was already warping the rasengan. The fact is, Obito was already blocking his Line of sight with bringing out a stake with kamui while Kakashi was drawing in naruto with his. Kakashi already built up far more chakra to increase his warp speed while obito was doing it on the fly, so Kakashi's was faster. Obito simply thought it was a clone because it vanished. neither of these are near instant, evidenced by your previous scan with a

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. It's still very valid and shows kamui can be dodged, but dem wankers and their excuses. IF kamui worked anyway as you guy's claim, then what happened in that previous scan i linked should be virtually impossible no matter what.

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doesn't change over time,

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with it - Wasting less chakra and what not. Kakashi can control it better, doesn't mean it can't be dodged. Blocking his line of sight, getting out of his field of view, vanishing, etc all counter this shit.

This is why you can't take kamui wankers seriously, they only talk garbage about kamui GG. Same way retards believe MS obito can beat hashirama and madara solely because of kamui. 1 jutsu isn't working all the time.

 

[TheEvilOne]

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Give a scan where Kakashi uses a water dragon on this scale without water source.

 

[genii96]

That jutsu takes time.

nope,pretty much instant

Kakashi is pretty fast, and he has a lot of counters for it like going undergroud... Warping himself to the other dimension...

Also Kakashi's kamui takes near no time

going underground is the worst thing to do,he cant warp himself with his normal chakra,didnt he nearly passed out when he used it on naruto whi is smaller than him?

You guys are getting me heated, you're glad I'm not on a PC. Pain Arc kakashi warped a point blank susano'O arrow, point blank needle and a point blank missle.. the only kakashi's any gaara takes are part 1 and beginning of shippuden

A logical person!

Not going to get even close to the time to do that, dude. Warp the gourd before the fight even starts. Pierce it with raikiri which can cut lightning. Lightning travels at 1,077 mph where as the speed of sound is 780mph.. Raikiri is fast enough to cut sound, gaara's slow sand is getting cut easily. Or just warp the entire sand, no it's not endless either.

Kakashi's kamui is faster than BM naruto and Obito's reactions.

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lol i thought had pateu seen this he was going to go off on insane levels.. he's more of a kakashi wanker than I am.

how is he warping the gourd?,gaara's slow sand blocked a bomb the second it blew up,and sand tsunami from the start is enough,gaara's autosand would jusat block the warping point and get hit instead. Obito stooped kakashi from using kamui on gedo,so it is not faster than obito.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Nah, the sand tsunami is far from instant.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Nah, the sand tsunami is far from instant.

It's not even mach speed lol.

What happens when it's being charged and he gets warped?

Or.. what happens when it/gaara gets lightning transmissioned?

Suiryuudan?

How much sand will it take to get over multiple doton walls from clones and kakashi?

Or blitzed and gets sucked into the ground?

Or raikiri beast running blitzed?

Sand tsunami is doing NOTHING.

 

[genii96]

Nah, the sand tsunami is far from instant.

well by instant,i didnt mean like ftg you know,i meant he can do it from the start,he said it himself,making sand takes nio effort

It's not even mach speed lol.

What happens when it's being charged and he gets warped?

Or.. what happens when it/gaara gets lightning transmissioned?

Suiryuudan?

How much sand will it take to get over multiple doton walls from clones and kakashi?

Or blitzed and gets sucked into the ground?

Or raikiri beast running blitzed?

Sand tsunami is doing NOTHING.

sand tsunbami dosent charge,doton walls get mowed over.or gaara simply moves the sand around the walls,lightening transmission through a sand tsunami?,seriously?,raikiri beast? really?

sand tsunami changes the place to a mini desert,and probably kills kakashi as well,unless u now think he can warp it away?

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

well by instant,i didnt mean like ftg you know,i meant he can do it from the start,he said it himself,making sand takes nio effort



sand tsunbami dosent charge,doton walls get mowed over.or gaara simply moves the sand around the walls,lightening transmission through a sand tsunami?,seriously?,raikiri beast? really?

sand tsunami changes the place to a mini desert,and probably kills kakashi as well,unless u now think he can warp it away?

The gourd or him gets warped away, it leaves him so open, he has to raise an entire desert, especially hard since the loss of shukaku.

Multiple doton walls aren't getting mowed over so easily, earth is the same compact as sand, as for moving under and around them, really depends on the environment.

Raikiri Beast running nearly insta blitzed Deva path and when exploded they made a large electrical shock. They can also be warped by kamui for further damage/reuse.

Kakashi can also kamui a raikiri kunai and use it to cut through/stab gaara. Chidori could dent the Shukaku Ultimate Defense, a raikiri kunai can cut through the current one if it is warped close enough.

Yes, drowning in sand can kill anyone, but Kakashi can just warp himself away.

 

[genii96]

The gourd or him gets warped away, it leaves him so open, he has to raise an entire desert, especially hard since the loss of shukaku.

Multiple doton walls aren't getting mowed over so easily, earth is the same compact as sand, as for moving under and around them, really depends on the environment.

Raikiri Beast running nearly insta blitzed Deva path and when exploded they made a large electrical shock. They can also be warped by kamui for further damage/reuse.

Kakashi can also kamui a raikiri kunai and use it to cut through/stab gaara. Chidori could dent the Shukaku Ultimate Defense, a raikiri kunai can cut through the current one if it is warped close enough.

Yes, drowning in sand can kill anyone, but Kakashi can just warp himself away.

the gourd is at his back,kakshi cant warp it,and his auto sand moves regardless of whether gaara knows an attack is coming or not,so if he teries to warp,the sand would just block it and get warped instead.

gaara makes his sand not just from earth,but from the toughest minerals,and the environment dosen't matter,the tsunami erupts from underneath,so gaara can just move it underneath or around the walls as well. shukaku was a problem for gaara,so lifting up a desert of sand would be easier now than back then.

it didnt blitz deva,deva simply repelled it with an ST,it needs to get close to gaara,which wont happen,kakashi cant warp it towards gaara,that is what tobi does,kakashi can only warp it to the dimension,which is why his warps affected tobi.,gaara dosent move to that dimension,so using kamui on his moves wont help.

chidori barely pierced the sand dome of a CE gaara,it wasnt shukaku's ultimate defence. SRA gaara blocked the bones of a CS2 kimimaro,that actually tried to drilled through,Ay in V2 was said to be bijuu level,yet gaara blocked his kick AND an enton at the same time qwith just a small amount of sand.

it is not just drowning in sand,gaara can use desert requeim to crush literary everything below him like he did to kimimaro,kakashi nearly passed out when he tried to warp naruto,he himself is bigger than naruto,you think he wont die if he tries warping himself?

 

[EZQ]

Nice troll bait. Kamui Fanboys y u so funny? Posting scans you don't even read.

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Because kakashi charging up the necessary chakra needed by kamui to warp someone, for half a page before, means nothing.

The kamui started when the stake started coming out from Obito's eye... and it finished when the stake (killed the clone)... Was that near 1 second maybe? lol stop it... 1 second is no enough to Gaara to react to kamui

Bye Bye

 

[shelke]

Their kamui is NOT the same thing, are you reading the manga? Read the wiki page on it. Obito can't suck in at long range and has to touch to suck in, Kakashi doesn't have to, but what kakashi cannot do is suck himself in to become intangible. The intangibility is the same speed as kakashi's warp, but obito's warp takes some time, EVEN THEN it is fast enough to warp to Sausage and get him out of getting destroyed on an atomic level, while saving himself.

Kid, you said it YOURSELF. HE WARPED THE BUNSHIN AS IT VANISHED. THAT IS INSTANTANEOUS. HE WAS FASTER THAN THE STAKE OBITO PULLED OUT THAT KILLED IT. HE WARPED THE THING AS IT TURNED TO SMOKE.

Or can you not read/see?

Yes, the warping is visible, that doesn't stop it from being instantaneous. Refer to when he warped Gyuuki. You clearly don't understand how kamui works, and your strategy to counter it is so terribly written and your argument is based off of denying facts that are right in front of you, it's sad. Kamui warps in a nanosecond, kakashi's. Obito's sucks in slowly. Read the wikia page. Any person with a fourth grade intelligence can tell that the two are different. This is like not even speculation anymore, this is pure reading, something you clearly cannot do. Also none of your scans have done anything for your "argument", if anything, commodated mine.

Low diff.

Their Kamui is not the same? Lol @ your BS. The pair is the same. In fact, Kakashi didn't even develop his MS, it was Obito's eye that resonated with its pair. Self-made argumentation at its worst, from the likes of you. No manga evidence to back up, other than Wiki-page rebuttals.

- Obito's warp point on Sasuke when the distance between them is quite large.

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- Debunked. This happened twice, actually. Look for the second scan yourself.
- Obito about to warp Naruto without touching him -

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. In fact, he stopped it when he noticed Naruto was gone and the stake was getting sucked in and the process was stopped -

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. Instant indeed.
- Obito sucked in Sasuke as well before he was disintegrated by Jinton. Without touching him of course.

Kakashi's Kamui and Obito's are at the Same Speed? What Nonsense. Can you get anymore pointless:

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- Minato's own words.
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- Kakashi's statement.

Heck, not even Byakugan and the bugs noticed him -

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Two places within the manga, Obito's Kamui is declared better than Minato's S/T FTG. You Kakashi fanboys are clearly out of it.

Right, right it is so instant that ALL these people noticed it:

- Deidara, when the process is STILL Happening -

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. Hilarious.
- Naruto noticed it as well -

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. Now why is that? It's the ****ing warp tear, which according to you isn't visible nor does it exist. Wait, there is more.

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- Deidara can clearly see and feel the warping of space around him. You obviously have no clue about what the heck you are even stating. It's getting beyond ridiculous now. And before you throw in another one of your tantrums, the only thing Kakashi couldn't control was the size of the barrier limiting the area

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- Karin Noticed it -

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- Minato noticed it, which is WHY he was able to teleport away when according to Minato himself, Obito's S/T is superior to his own -

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- Heck, Obito noticed it counter the tear neck Kakashi was just about to unleash -

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And that ONE time Kamui was being prepped for quite a while, not to mention the colossal and utterly stupid Deus Ex Machina error from Obito. That is your SOLE rebuttal? Weak argumentation through and through. Your argument was destroyed from the get go when you declared that Kamui is instant. When ALL the scans I have provided prove otherwise. What is your response? Wikipedia? Good one and nice Sasuke bashing thrown in there.

Shelke stop arguing with Kamui Fanboys, they're retarded and can't process manga scans.

>Kamui warped Susano'o arrow instantly. ... The susano'o arrow was moving linearly directly to his head, all he had to do was open the kamui point infront the arrows. The arrow would never be able to pass that warp point and slowly be warped through. Idiots alone use this as evidence

>Kamui instantly Warped naruto bushin. Kamui shown building up on rasengan for 2 panels but it's instant. Idiots again lol.

>Kamui instantly warped a nail moving to kakashi's Eyes. My sides.

Kamui's never warped anything instantly and needs a build up of chakra to warp bigger things. Anything bigger than a nail is taking time. These fanboys lel. Gaara throws up Sand dome around himself in the scan and uses sand sensing to find kakashi. GG Kamui 1 shot, gaara then tosses sand tsunami's after kakashi. Buh bye

Lol I never thought it was THIS bad with Kakashi crowd. Apparently, now Kakashi's Kamui is superior to Obito's. LOL What a Lark and a genuinely stupid stone-age wankery. That arrow argument is spot on. He simply made the tear appear before himself. Heck, Kabuto dodged the arrows on foot speed which means they are completely avoidable, provided you have high speed.

 

[EZQ]

The head isn't THAT large and it's still farfetched on your part, when Kakashi has made no such claims. Obito's statements about Warping Objects also hold. If you combine these two, then there is little room left for debate in this 'herpa derpa lerpa Instant Kamui' Bull shit.

Secondly, half of this base is high who thinks that the author will show the same thing EVERY SINGLE TIME when the warp point is repeatedly shown within the manga. How Obito managed to miss it that time is truly Kishi's manure turned gold logic, as usual. Nothing out of the world.

P.s: So now Rinnegan is capable of reading extensive movements like Sharingan? Lol @ this base. And then the audacity.

Rinnengan is the evolution of sharingan, it does increase reaction (plus obito also had a sharingan)

Then why would mei bother on using mist to block Madara's sight?

 

[EZQ]

Their Kamui is not the same? Lol @ your BS. The pair is the same. In fact, Kakashi didn't even develop his MS, it was Obito's eye that resonated with its pair. Self-made argumentation at its worst, from the likes of you. No manga evidence to back up, other than Wiki-page rebuttals.

- Obito's warp point on Sasuke when the distance between them is quite large.

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- Debunked. This happened twice, actually. Look for the second scan yourself.
- Obito about to warp Naruto without touching him -

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. In fact, he stopped it when he noticed Naruto was gone and the stake was getting sucked in and the process was stopped -

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. Instant indeed.
- Obito sucked in Sasuke as well before he was disintegrated by Jinton. Without touching him of course.

Kakashi's Kamui and Obito's are at the Same Speed? What Nonsense. Can you get anymore pointless:

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- Minato's own words.
-

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- Kakashi's statement.

Heck, not even Byakugan and the bugs noticed him -

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and

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.

Two places within the manga, Obito's Kamui is declared better than Minato's S/T FTG. You Kakashi fanboys are clearly out of it.

Right, right it is so instant that ALL these people noticed it:

- Deidara, when the process is STILL Happening -

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. Hilarious.
- Naruto noticed it as well -

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. Now why is that? It's the ****ing warp tear, which according to you isn't visible nor does it exist. Wait, there is more.

Before I go any further, this scan is of utmost importance:

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- Deidara can clearly see and feel the warping of space around him. You obviously have no clue about what the heck you are even stating. It's getting beyond ridiculous now. And before you throw in another one of your tantrums, the only thing Kakashi couldn't control was the size of the barrier limiting the area

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- Karin Noticed it -

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- Minato noticed it, which is WHY he was able to teleport away when according to Minato himself, Obito's S/T is superior to his own -

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and

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- Heck, Obito noticed it counter the tear neck Kakashi was just about to unleash -

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And that ONE time Kamui was being prepped for quite a while, not to mention the colossal and utterly stupid Deus Ex Machina error from Obito. That is your SOLE rebuttal? Weak argumentation through and through. Your argument was destroyed from the get go when you declared that Kamui is instant. When ALL the scans I have provided prove otherwise. What is your response? Wikipedia? Good one and nice Sasuke bashing thrown in there.




Lol I never thought it was THIS bad with Kakashi crowd. Apparently, now Kakashi's Kamui is superior to Obito's. LOL What a Lark and a genuinely stupid stone-age wankery. That arrow argument is spot on. He simply made the tear appear before himself. Heck, Kabuto dodged the arrows on foot speed which means they are completely avoidable, provided you have high speed.

Kakashi's kamui speed is higher than Obito's, If Kakashi's kamui is even faster than Obito's sight then its obviously faster than his eye jutsu...

Manga > you

LOL at you using Kakashi vs Deidara scans... LOL, Kakashi was fodder with kamui back then

Also, NOBODY STATED KAKASHI'S KAMUI IS SUPERIOR TO OBITO'S, IT IS JUST FASTER TO WARP THINGS, OBITO'S IS A LOT BETTER AND VERSATILE

...lol

 

[Prince Charles]

Lol Im having a hard time taking shelke seriously, comparing the speed warp of obito's kamui to kakashi which has shown to be faster? Lmao alright bro. Anway's Like others and I have said Gaara isnt reacting to kakashi's kamui, Manga> your baseless assumptions. I can't help but not laugh at people saying sand tsunami equals GG clearly don't understand kakashi's shunshin feats.

 

[EZQ]

Lol Im having a hard time taking shelke seriously, comparing the speed warp of obito's kamui to kakashi which has shown to be faster? Lmao alright bro. Anway's Like others and I have said Gaara isnt reacting to kakashi's kamui, Manga> your baseless assumptions. I can't help but not laugh at people saying sand tsunami equals GG clearly don't understand kakashi's shunshin feats.

Agreed... ^^

If Obito can't even SEE kakashi's kamui, how could he perform a FASTER verison of it?

 

[blazekev90]

Kakashi is any form has no chance against Garra. Garra wins mid difficulty

 

[Fecal Matter]

Kakashi stands no chance at all.