Is Hiruzen the greatest....?

Uchihajin Sasuke

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Fodderkage ever? Jeez, he could compete with Tsunade/Mei for the grand fodder prize! Lol
 

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Mei is underrated .

Hiruzen is the weakest kage of all time .
 

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Orochinaru toyed with him and beat him mid diff. So much for his hype. Kishi's troll no jutsu again!
 

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Mei is underrated .

Hiruzen is the weakest kage of all time .

in his youth he was considered god of shinobi instead of 3rd raikage and onoki. Don't underestimate him I believe him to be near top 10
 

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Hah. Tsunade is the second best from the current kage. Hiruzen loses to everyone.
 

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Hiruzen was good enough to take on a very weak edo tandem in Tobirama and Hashirama, while fighting a Kage level opponent in Orochimaru. He was said to be stronger than 3rd Kazekage, Onoki, 3rd Raikage. Which means Hiruzen is a boss.
 

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well, if we leaved fanfiction away, Hiruzen according to the manga is stronger than
Hashirama, Tobirama, and base Minato. He's stronger than them in his prime.

and even as an old man and according to Kabuto he's stronger than A, Yagura, Gaara's dad, and Onoki.
 

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Hiruzen was good enough to take on a very weak edo tandem in Tobirama and Hashirama, while fighting a Kage level opponent in Orochimaru. He was said to be stronger than 3rd Kazekage, Onoki, 3rd Raikage. Which means Hiruzen is a boss.

lol @
Very weak, and he was also said to be the strongest hokage, funny that you didn't add that or the fact that he was old...
 

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lol @
Very weak, and he was also said to be the strongest hokage, funny that you didn't add that or the fact that he was old...

They are very weak compared to the new versions. I thought it was common sense that he was old. :|
 

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They are very weak compared to the new versions. I thought it was common sense that he was old. :|

I know, but you don't say that Hiruzen was weak as hell too, and yes I know the 2 kages were weaker, but they were in no way shape or form very weak.
 

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I know, but you don't say that Hiruzen was weak as hell too, and yes I know the 2 kages were weaker, but they were in no way shape or form very weak.

your saying Edo Hashirama from the first fight is near current Hashirama's prowess?
 

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your saying Edo Hashirama from the first fight is near current Hashirama's prowess?

I never said that moron, I said that they were in no way shape or form weak.

IMO they were around 40-50 % of their full power.

But fanboys gonna say otherwise that they were only like 5 percent of their full power.

lmao
 

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They were around 20% at best. They were jounin level though.
 

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I never said that moron, I said that they were in no way shape or form weak.

IMO they were around 40-50 % of their full power.

But fanboys gonna say otherwise that they were only like 5 percent of their full power.

lmao

that is very weak......

Funny thing is you fanboys always like to say, the second and the first hokage were giving it their all.. even though they f*cking stood still instead of finishing off Hiruzen. lmao.

No needa call someone a moron, when your logic sucks . =D
 
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