Madara's trump card

[Kirby1]

Freaky and awesome! Love this theory!

Madara was watching Obito the whole time!

 

[Byron123]

Freaky and awesome! Love this theory!

Madara was watching Obito the whole time!

Glad you liked it=D=D

 

[Ahmed1993]

Now before you go bash me guys, I'll require you to be open-minded. This is a far-fetched theory. My inspiration was Mitarashi.

So we know that regardless of what happens on the battlefield, Madara remains all the time calm, too calm if you ask me. After seeing how strong Obito has become I doubt that Madara's trump card has anything to do with the use of power. Instead it will have to with psycological war. Think about it, what is Obito's main motivation that pushes him to move forward no matter what happens? RIN

What do we know exactly about Rin? We have no knowledge about her family or of any previous background which indicates her origins. Yet we have seen that she has a major impact on the decisions of the currently most powerful character, obito.

In his past Obito was a kind kid who immediately got a crush on Rin. If you remember, she was the one that helped him during the first days and later we see her say this

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Zetsu later also says this

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The use of the exact same sentence as the way it was emphasized in Rin's case, looks a bit suspicious if you ask me.
Now I'm not implying that Rin is just a zetsu transformed since zetsu in order to copy someone, they have to exist in the first place. However, I do believe that here it is sounded as if they share the same task given by a mastermind, Madara. I believe that Madara created Rin the same way he created black zetsu by using Yin-Yang release. (After all it wouldn't be the first time we see people created by Yin-Yang release. Let's not forget that the two basic enemies' ancestors, uchiha and senju were created by the exact same way, same goes for the creation of the 9 tailed beasts). However, Rin was genuinely created as a kind person, it was not just a foil she used to trick Obito. I believe that all this time that Madara was incapacited, he was searching for his perfect apprentice by using his zetsu as spies. So when he found the guy he wanted, Obito, he created a person who would mean the world for him, in order to manipulate him, even if it was indirectly at the beginning. For this reason I believe that Madara was waiting patiently the moment to get his hands on Obito. After he did that, the only thing that had to do was to sacrifice his creation in order to make Obito follow him. The way Rin was killed by the one who loved in front of Obito's eyes while that same was the one that was entrusted with Obito's sharingan to protect her, was the thing that sealed Obito's fate and changed him once and for all. Also, to strenghten my opinion about Madara being the mastermind, I would like to point out how Madara was sure all this time that Obito would change, it's like he was certain, certain for a reason. I think that Madara controlled the Mizukage the same way Obito did afterwards in order to assure Rin's death in front of Obito's eyes. A proof of that is that when Obito fought against the mist anbu and jonins to protect Rin's body, one of the guys said "Don't look down on the blood mist" a title which the mist village got during the time the mizukage was under Obito's control or better under fake Madara's control. Being said that, the fact that it already had it, indicates that this period of blood starts from way before like back in Madara's old days.


Back to the trump card's point. I believe that Madara will tell the truth to Obito about Rin being a creation he had created all along. This will put Obito in a huge phycological turmoil and will cause him to loose control over Juubi. At that point Juubi will take over Obito's body and Madara will try to take control over it. The basic idea is that Madara doesn't loose his confidence for a reason. He knows all too well that no matter how strong Obito becomes, the relevation of who Rin actually was, Obito's whole power to move forward, will shatter and he'll be helpless. The only reason he doesn't use it just yet is because he wants Obito to become as strong as possible because this will be for his benefit.

Did you see before how Obito managed to resist madara's control at the previous chapters all because he thought of Rin and how he resisted against Juubi itself? What would have happened in both cases if there wasn't that motivation? Madara's plan would have suceeded. Just because he used it once and failed, doesn't mean that it can't work a second time and control Obito's body efficiently. Also, Rin's surgical knowledge might indicate that she was the person that implanted Madara's rinnegan on Nagato and how she later transplanted to him his other sharingan. In case you talk about her age, don't forget that since she was such a creation maybe aging rules don't apply to her the same way. In any case, these surgical skills are also the ones that came in handy to reassure kakashi's sharingan transplant's success. Also, the fact that Madara had only one sharingan can be an indication that he sacrificed the other to perform Izanagi and create Rin. For that reason if someone goes by saying why Madara didn't use this technique more times it's for the simple fact that Izanagi comes at the cost of one eye and since Madara was old at his late days, he may also have wanted to keep his chakra for as long as possible in order to increase his life span.


To sum up, I believe that Rin might have been a creation of Yin-Yang release who was created by Madara in order to befriend Madara's future apprentice and collegue. Nonetheless, she was not evil but yet Madara was able to control different factors such as her death, in order for him to shatter Obito's idealism and make him his student. For all these reasons, I support that Madara's secret is the relevation of her true nature, a fact which will make Obito vulnerable and easily controllable. Again, the reason for which I believe that madara's trump card is something like that is the fact that he can't possibly keep up with Obito's current powers. Therefore the key is not about dominating through power but rather by destroying someone's sheer will. Let's not forget that Madara has also tried to break others' will in the past. He tried to kill Ohnoki because he was able to motivate the other kages and later he was happy about what first appeared as Obito's success to break Naruto's will, because in this way he would break the will of everyone's else as well. So destroying Obito's sole motivation can be proved more effective than any other power-up. If you think about it, it's a cruel irony in a way because Obito is fighting right now to turn his dream into reality but what he doesn't know is that if what I say is correct, then his whole motivation from the beginning was a person created by dreams.
Hope you liked it=D

Although there some flaws here and there in your theory , but its still a great and solid theory , sorry i can't rep you

 

[Byron123]

Although there some flaws here and there in your theory , but its still a great and solid theory , sorry i can't rep you

Doesn't matter I'm glad you liked it=D

 

[D R E X]

SEEMS LEGIT BUT CAN'T BE 100% SURE

BECAUSE HOW CAN MADARA CREATE A LIFE FORM

BUT I AM NOT KISHI SO ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE

VERY INTERESTING THEORY ....... NICE ....THERE IS SOMERHING SUSPECIOUS ABOUT YOU !!!!

YOU MUST BE KISHI IN DISGIUSE !!!!


GREAT

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[Byron123]

SEEMS LEGIT BUT CAN'T BE 100% SURE

BECAUSE HOW CAN MADARA CREATE A LIFE FORM

BUT I AM NOT KISHI SO ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE

VERY INTERESTING THEORY ....... NICE ....THERE IS SOMERHING SUSPECIOUS ABOUT YOU !!!!

YOU MUST BE KISHI IN DISGIUSE !!!!


GREAT

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Lol you always choose the funniest photos, I love them=D

 

[uchiha asuku aliyu]

nice theory

 

[Xāvî1]

Madara's Trump card could not be Rin even if Rin's death was part of the plan. The whole build up plot will be a big fail because of a silly girl similar to Sakura who will be responsible for Naruto vs Sasuke.

thats for damn sure. You got that right bro

 

[Byron123]

nice theory

thank you=D=D

thats for damn sure. You got that right bro

Lol comparing Sakura to Rin is plain stupid. It's about what Rin represents to Obito and not just a silly love affair. It's about a kind girl who did nothing wrong while alive and ended up sacrificing herself to protect her village, dying in a very early age. She is a girl that meant the whole world to Obito and he saw her dying by the very same guy she loved and who was entrusted by Obito himself with his eye and with his life in general since he was sacrificed to save him from the boulder. Besides, you should not forget that according to Tobirama, when an uchiha loves someone and then he learns to hate, his hate will be way stronger. If what I suggested is true, then Obito's whole life was a lie which was created by Madara himself in order to use him. Can you now please tell me how the hell Sakura can be compared to Rin while the only thing she symbolises is just a " Sasuke-kun!!!" Besides, you should not forget that Kishi made Rin a jinchuuriki and that alone gives her importance as a character.

 

[PTran5]

The idea that Rin was created to make Obito who he is now sounds great, yet a bit disturbing. This is certainly one of the craziest and most unique theories that I have ever read and I applause you for that. It will definitely be a major plot-hole if it does happen.

 

[Byron123]

The idea that Rin was created to make Obito who he is now sounds great, yet a bit disturbing. This is certainly one of the craziest and most unique theories that I have ever read and I applause you for that. It will definitely be a major plot-hole if it does happen.

WOW thanks, I feel honouredblush:

 

[FearxDeath]

I think the Zetsu thing points more towards the fact that Madara picked out Obito prior to the rock falling on him. It has also been theorized that it was Madara himself who set up Kakashi killing Rin in the first place.

But most importantly with Obito now in charge of the Juubi, becoming the most powerful ninja in existance, and at the cusp of winning, why would he believe any last minute words from Madara? What does Madara say "One last thing obito, I created Rin, it was all just a rouse" Obito "NOOOOO!!!!"?

All I am saying is that Obito not only has no reason to believe Madara but he has very good reason to believe he would lie in that situation. Even if Madara had Zetsu turn into Rin it could just be Zetsu's shape shifting power, any thing Madara does would fall short.

 

[Byron123]

I think the Zetsu thing points more towards the fact that Madara picked out Obito prior to the rock falling on him. It has also been theorized that it was Madara himself who set up Kakashi killing Rin in the first place.

But most importantly with Obito now in charge of the Juubi, becoming the most powerful ninja in existance, and at the cusp of winning, why would he believe any last minute words from Madara? What does Madara say "One last thing obito, I created Rin, it was all just a rouse" Obito "NOOOOO!!!!"?

All I am saying is that Obito not only has no reason to believe Madara but he has very good reason to believe he would lie in that situation. Even if Madara had Zetsu turn into Rin it could just be Zetsu's shape shifting power, any thing Madara does would fall short.

Well I also said that Madara picked up Rin prior to the rock falling. I think that you didn't read my whole theory. I clearly stated that Rin can't be just a zetsu transformed since in order for zetsu to copy someone, that person must first exist since they use his chakra singature as means to transform. You should consider that Rin means the world for Obito so regardless of the situation, he will always be affected when she's brought in to discussion. Obito knows full well how manipulative Madara is so he knows how far he can go in order to get what he wants. Besides, he might know things for Rin that only he knows and by revealing them he will prove the credibility of what he says.

 

[psukkar]

yes I agree,

this makes sense, madara knows the degree of how noob obitio is and will take advantage of it and I will be there declaring Madara my favourite character the moment he makes obitio look like a total tool.

and the manga will rise to new untold levels, millions and millions of dollars will be made and obitio will replace sakura as the most annoying character in the series.

the end,

what a nice story this will be.

 

[Byron123]

yes I agree,

this makes sense, madara knows the degree of how noob obitio is and will take advantage of it and I will be there declaring Madara my favourite character the moment he makes obitio look like a total tool.

and the manga will rise to new untold levels, millions and millions of dollars will be made and obitio will replace sakura as the most annoying character in the series.

the end,

what a nice story this will be.

Lol you didn't even read it, right?

 

[Chatte]

While I don't think Rin would be a creation of Ying Yang release, I do believe somehow she might be brought-up by Madara in order to bring him down on a psychological level.
It's one of Madara's most used moves. He tries to bring your morale down. It, however, depends on one's strong will to resist it or not.

 

[Byron123]

While I don't think Rin would be a creation of Ying Yang release, I do believe somehow she might be brought-up by Madara in order to bring him down on a psychological level.
It's one of Madara's most used moves. He tries to bring your morale down. It, however, depends on one's strong will to resist it or not.

True and btw you're a fast reader damn!

 

[Chatte]

True and btw you're a fast reader damn!

If I could only speak as fast as I read.

 

[bahram]

how did you come up with something like that?
for something that far fetched, it completely makes sense!

 

[Byron123]

how did you come up with something like thas?
for something that far fetched, it completely makes sense!

Yeah indeed I had an epiphanyXD Like I said at the beginning, my inspiration was Mitarashi. He had supported that Rin is a zetsu and he had provided the 2 pages I posted. Even though, I comletely disagree to that idea, it helped wonder about Rin's true nature and so I came to that possibilty.=D