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Hey All,
Anyone interested in the history of Uchiha and possible future events, this thread is for you! I was really interested in finding out Sasuke's future role in the manga and stumbled upon the PERFECT page straight from Wiki. (here's the link if you are interested:
WARNING: THIS THREAD IS EXTREMELY LONG. IF YOU CANNOT SIT STILL AND READ FOR AT LEAST 5 MINUTES, THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR YOU.
Prologue:
The Uchiha history is almost DIRECTLY connected to Japanese Mythology (of course Kishi add's his own dynamics)
THE VERY BEGINNING:
Understanding the History of IZANAGI AND IZANAMI:
WOW. Looks like Izanami died giving birth to ‘Incarnation of fire’ or perhaps in Naruto reference.. The LAND of Fire in which Konohagakure was adopted. Now what do we know about this?
The Land of Fire (火の国, Hi no Kuni) is one of the largest and most powerful countries in the series, and the home of the main characters of the series. Its government leader is the Fire Daimyō. The Land of Fire was the first country to adopt a ninja village, Konohagakure, a custom other countries would soon adopt.
After reading this, the only question I had was, "WHO DAEFF IS THE FIRE DAIMYO"? Look it up, and the answer is the leader of old pricks council of the village. My theory is that Sasuke might want to take down this council for which led to the destruction of his clan..
WHY is this important? Because in anger, Izanagi killed Kagutsuchi.
STORY OF Kagutsuchi:
It may be a stretch, but this could be the ROOT cause of why the Uchiha have adopted the curse of hatred.
The Uchiha are bound by an intense LOVE and thus, are prone to emotional triggers. The emotion trigger may have derived from Izanagi’s anger from the death of his wife.
Onward with the story of Izanagi:
Sound familiar? Let's continue with Amaterasu and Susanno history:
Amaterasu and Susanoo
So the story of Susanno is kind of interesting, BUT what's even MORE interesting is the next story of Susannoo and Orochi. Yeah that's right, this all ties together with the relationship between the UCHIHA and OROCHIMARU:
Susanoo and Orochi
Now I don't know about you, but this almost entirely parallels Itachi's right against Orochimaru. It was so fascinating that Kishimoto ties this altogether, so what else is there to learn?! How about the descendants of Susanno??
Prince Ōkuninushi
Could this be the story of Obito Uchiha falling in love and being sacrificed, only to be brought back and to seek SUSANNOO for guidance? It is entirely up for interpretation, but I found it interesting nontheless.
How about the History of the Hyuuga?
We all know that the Hyuuga clan have gifted eyes as well, similar to the Uchiha. I believe that they are actually DESCENDANTS of the Uchiha Clan. I know that in the manga it states the the Hyuuga are the 'oldest clan', but I find that this is incorrect due to the fact that the SO6P's sons gave birth to the Uchiha and Senju clans. HOWEVER, I believe that the Hyuuga are ONE OF THE OLDEST clans due to the fact that they are descendants of the Uchiha.
Here is the story of Ninigi-no-Mikoto , the GRANDSON of AMATERASU
Ninigi's descent to the Middle World - HISTORY OF THE 3 SACRED TREASURES AND HYUUGA CLAN
Main article: Tenson kōrin
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In Conclusion
This thread is just for readers to get a better sense of what depth Kishimoto puts into his writing. I am an active reader and found that these tales of ancient Japanese gods really gave light to some of the mysteries that surround the Uchiha clan. I know that the thread is very long, but I hope that you enjoyed read as much as I did.
and before I forget- ALL SOURCES ARE CREDITED TO WIKIPEDIA.
Feel free to comment and give your opinions. Rate/Comment/Rep if ya enjoyed!
Thanks! :bye:
-ShadowCloneJutsu
Anyone interested in the history of Uchiha and possible future events, this thread is for you! I was really interested in finding out Sasuke's future role in the manga and stumbled upon the PERFECT page straight from Wiki. (here's the link if you are interested:
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) WARNING: THIS THREAD IS EXTREMELY LONG. IF YOU CANNOT SIT STILL AND READ FOR AT LEAST 5 MINUTES, THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR YOU. Prologue:
The Uchiha history is almost DIRECTLY connected to Japanese Mythology (of course Kishi add's his own dynamics)
THE VERY BEGINNING:
In the Japanese creation myth, the first deities which came into existence, appearing at the time of the creation of the universe, are collectively called Kotoamatsukami.
Kotoamatsukami : In Japanese Shinto, Kotoamatsukami (別天津神, literally means "distinguishing heavenly kami") is the collective name for the first gods which came into existence at the time of the creation of the universe. The first two generations are individual deities called hitorigami. One of the first of these Gods was :
Kunitokotachi
In Japanese mythology, Kunitokotachi (国之常立神 in Kojiki, 国常立尊 in Nihonshoki; Kunitokotachi-no-Kami or Kuninotokotachi-no-Kami?) is one of the two gods born from "something like a reed that arose from the soil" [1] when the earth was chaotic. In the Nihon Shoki, he is named "Kuni-toko-tachi no mikoto" and is the first of the first three divinities born after heaven and earth were born out of chaos, and is born from something looking like a reed-shoot growing between heaven and earth
Sound familiar? If you see the latest opening of Naruto Shippuden.. we see Naruto carrying this reed-shoot..
Very symbolic, but this thread is not about Naruto so let's carry on:
The five gods that followed came into being as male/female pairs of kami: brothers and sisters that were also married couples . They were born in Takamagahara, the world of Heaven at the time of the creation, as:
1.Amenominakanushi (Central master)
2.Takamimusubi (High creation)
3.Kamimusubi (Divine creation)
and a bit later
4. Umashiashikabihikoji (Energy)
5. Amenotokotachi (Heaven)
Then, five pairs of gods were born (total of ten deities), each pair consisting of a male deity and a female deity:[3]
• U-hiji-ni ( 宇比地邇神?) and his younger sister (and wife) Su-hiji-ni ( 須比智邇神?),
• Tsunu-guhi ( 角杙神?) and his younger sister (and wife) Iku-guhi ( 活杙神?),
• Ō-to-no-ji ( 意富斗能地神?) and his younger sister (and wife) Ō-to-no-be ( 大斗乃弁神?),
• Omo-daru ( 於母陀流神?) and his younger sister (and wife) Aya-kashiko-ne ( 阿夜訶志古泥神?) and
• Izanagi ( 伊邪那岐神?) and his younger sister (and wife) Izanami ( 伊邪那美神?)
10 total deities = Juubi. Kishimoto probably used this idea, but instead created the story of the 10 tailed beasts based on this idea
Kotoamatsukami : In Japanese Shinto, Kotoamatsukami (別天津神, literally means "distinguishing heavenly kami") is the collective name for the first gods which came into existence at the time of the creation of the universe. The first two generations are individual deities called hitorigami. One of the first of these Gods was :
Kunitokotachi
In Japanese mythology, Kunitokotachi (国之常立神 in Kojiki, 国常立尊 in Nihonshoki; Kunitokotachi-no-Kami or Kuninotokotachi-no-Kami?) is one of the two gods born from "something like a reed that arose from the soil" [1] when the earth was chaotic. In the Nihon Shoki, he is named "Kuni-toko-tachi no mikoto" and is the first of the first three divinities born after heaven and earth were born out of chaos, and is born from something looking like a reed-shoot growing between heaven and earth
Sound familiar? If you see the latest opening of Naruto Shippuden.. we see Naruto carrying this reed-shoot..
Very symbolic, but this thread is not about Naruto so let's carry on:
The five gods that followed came into being as male/female pairs of kami: brothers and sisters that were also married couples . They were born in Takamagahara, the world of Heaven at the time of the creation, as:
1.Amenominakanushi (Central master)
2.Takamimusubi (High creation)
3.Kamimusubi (Divine creation)
and a bit later
4. Umashiashikabihikoji (Energy)
5. Amenotokotachi (Heaven)
Then, five pairs of gods were born (total of ten deities), each pair consisting of a male deity and a female deity:[3]
• U-hiji-ni ( 宇比地邇神?) and his younger sister (and wife) Su-hiji-ni ( 須比智邇神?),
• Tsunu-guhi ( 角杙神?) and his younger sister (and wife) Iku-guhi ( 活杙神?),
• Ō-to-no-ji ( 意富斗能地神?) and his younger sister (and wife) Ō-to-no-be ( 大斗乃弁神?),
• Omo-daru ( 於母陀流神?) and his younger sister (and wife) Aya-kashiko-ne ( 阿夜訶志古泥神?) and
• Izanagi ( 伊邪那岐神?) and his younger sister (and wife) Izanami ( 伊邪那美神?)
10 total deities = Juubi. Kishimoto probably used this idea, but instead created the story of the 10 tailed beasts based on this idea
Understanding the History of IZANAGI AND IZANAMI:
In short, Izanagi and Izanami were responsible for the creation of the islands that form the country of Japan.
To achieve this, Izanagi and Izanami were given a naginata decorated with jewels, named Ame-no-nuboko ("Heavenly Jeweled Spear"). The two deities then went to the bridge between heaven and earth, Amenoukihashi ("Floating Bridge of Heaven") and churned the sea below with the halberd.
Drops of salty water formed the island, Onogoro ("self-forming"). The deities descended from the bridge of heaven and made their home on the island. Eventually, they fell in love and wished to mate. So they built a pillar called Amenomihashira around which they built a palace called Yashirodono ("the hall whose area is 8 arms' length squared").
Izanagi and Izanami circled the pillar in opposite directions, and when they met on the other side, Izanami, the female deity, spoke first in greeting. Izanagi didn't think that this was proper, but they mated anyway. They had two children, Hiruko ("leech child") and Awashima ("pale island"), but the children were badly formed and are not considered gods in their original form. (Hiruko later became the Japanese god, Ebisu.)
The parents, who were dismayed at their misfortune, put the children into a boat and sent them to sea, and then petitioned the other gods for an answer about what they had done wrong. They were informed that Izanami's lack of manners was the reason for the defective births: a woman should never speak prior to a man; the male deity should have spoken first in greeting during the ceremony.[5] So Izanagi and Izanami went around the pillar again, and this time, when they met, Izanagi spoke first. Their next union was successful.
From their union were born the Ōyashima, or the eight great islands of Japan:
• Awaji
• Iyo (later Shikoku)
• Oki
• Tsukushi (later Kyūshū)
• Iki
• Tsushima
• Sado
• Yamato (later Honshū)
Note that Hokkaidō, Chishima and Okinawa were not part of Japan in ancient times.
The divine couple bore eight more offspring, who later became the eight great islands of Japan.[5] Izanami, however, died giving birth to Kagutsuchi (incarnation of fire), also called Homusubi (causer of fire).
To achieve this, Izanagi and Izanami were given a naginata decorated with jewels, named Ame-no-nuboko ("Heavenly Jeweled Spear"). The two deities then went to the bridge between heaven and earth, Amenoukihashi ("Floating Bridge of Heaven") and churned the sea below with the halberd.
Drops of salty water formed the island, Onogoro ("self-forming"). The deities descended from the bridge of heaven and made their home on the island. Eventually, they fell in love and wished to mate. So they built a pillar called Amenomihashira around which they built a palace called Yashirodono ("the hall whose area is 8 arms' length squared").
Izanagi and Izanami circled the pillar in opposite directions, and when they met on the other side, Izanami, the female deity, spoke first in greeting. Izanagi didn't think that this was proper, but they mated anyway. They had two children, Hiruko ("leech child") and Awashima ("pale island"), but the children were badly formed and are not considered gods in their original form. (Hiruko later became the Japanese god, Ebisu.)
The parents, who were dismayed at their misfortune, put the children into a boat and sent them to sea, and then petitioned the other gods for an answer about what they had done wrong. They were informed that Izanami's lack of manners was the reason for the defective births: a woman should never speak prior to a man; the male deity should have spoken first in greeting during the ceremony.[5] So Izanagi and Izanami went around the pillar again, and this time, when they met, Izanagi spoke first. Their next union was successful.
From their union were born the Ōyashima, or the eight great islands of Japan:
• Awaji
• Iyo (later Shikoku)
• Oki
• Tsukushi (later Kyūshū)
• Iki
• Tsushima
• Sado
• Yamato (later Honshū)
Note that Hokkaidō, Chishima and Okinawa were not part of Japan in ancient times.
The divine couple bore eight more offspring, who later became the eight great islands of Japan.[5] Izanami, however, died giving birth to Kagutsuchi (incarnation of fire), also called Homusubi (causer of fire).
WOW. Looks like Izanami died giving birth to ‘Incarnation of fire’ or perhaps in Naruto reference.. The LAND of Fire in which Konohagakure was adopted. Now what do we know about this?
The Land of Fire (火の国, Hi no Kuni) is one of the largest and most powerful countries in the series, and the home of the main characters of the series. Its government leader is the Fire Daimyō. The Land of Fire was the first country to adopt a ninja village, Konohagakure, a custom other countries would soon adopt.
After reading this, the only question I had was, "WHO DAEFF IS THE FIRE DAIMYO"? Look it up, and the answer is the leader of old pricks council of the village. My theory is that Sasuke might want to take down this council for which led to the destruction of his clan..
WHY is this important? Because in anger, Izanagi killed Kagutsuchi.
STORY OF Kagutsuchi:
Kagu-tsuchi's birth burned his mother Izanami, causing her death. His father Izanagi, in his grief, beheaded Kagu-tsuchi with his sword
Kagu-tsuchi's birth, in Japanese mythology, comes at the end of the creation of the world and marks the beginning of death
Izanagi lamented the death of Izanami and undertook a journey to Yomi ("the shadowy land of the dead"). Izanagi found little difference between Yomi and the land above, except for the eternal darkness. However, this suffocating darkness was enough to make him ache for light and life. Quickly, he searched for Izanami and found her.
At first, Izanagi could not see her for she was well hidden in the shadows. Nevertheless, he asked her to return with him. Izanami spat at Izanagi and informed him that he was too late. She had already eaten the food of the underworld and now belonged to the land of the dead.
Izanagi was shocked at this news, but he refused to give in to her wishes to be left to the dark embrace of Yomi. Izanami agreed to return to the world but first requested to have some time to rest. She instructed Izanagi to not come into her bedroom. After a long wait, Izanami did not come out of her bedroom, and Izanagi was worried.
While Izanami was sleeping, he took the comb that bound his long hair and set it alight as a torch. Under the sudden burst of light, he saw the horrid form of the once beautiful and graceful Izanami. The flesh of her ravaged body was rotting and was overrun with maggots and foul creatures.
Crying out loud, Izanagi could no longer control his fear and started to run, intending to return to the living and to abandon his death-ridden wife. Izanami woke up shrieking and indignant and chased after him. Izanami instructed the shikome, or foul women, hunt for the frightened Izanagi and to bring him back.
Izanagi, thinking quickly, hurled his headdress, which became a bunch of black grapes. The shikome fell on these but continued pursuit. Next, Izanagi threw his comb, which became a clump of bamboo shoots. Now it was Yomi's creatures that began to give chase, but Izanagi urinated against a tree and created a great river that increased his lead. Unfortunately, the shikome still pursued Izanagi, who began to hurl peaches at them. He knew that this would not delay them for long, but he was nearly free, for the boundary of Yomi was now close at hand.
Izanagi burst through the entrance and quickly pushed a boulder to the entrance of Yomi. Izanami screamed from behind this barricade and told Izanagi that, if he left her, she would destroy 1,000 living people every day. He furiously replied that he would give life to 1,500.
And so began the existence of Death, caused by the hands of the proud Izanami, the abandoned wife of Izanagi.
Kagu-tsuchi's birth, in Japanese mythology, comes at the end of the creation of the world and marks the beginning of death
Izanagi lamented the death of Izanami and undertook a journey to Yomi ("the shadowy land of the dead"). Izanagi found little difference between Yomi and the land above, except for the eternal darkness. However, this suffocating darkness was enough to make him ache for light and life. Quickly, he searched for Izanami and found her.
At first, Izanagi could not see her for she was well hidden in the shadows. Nevertheless, he asked her to return with him. Izanami spat at Izanagi and informed him that he was too late. She had already eaten the food of the underworld and now belonged to the land of the dead.
Izanagi was shocked at this news, but he refused to give in to her wishes to be left to the dark embrace of Yomi. Izanami agreed to return to the world but first requested to have some time to rest. She instructed Izanagi to not come into her bedroom. After a long wait, Izanami did not come out of her bedroom, and Izanagi was worried.
While Izanami was sleeping, he took the comb that bound his long hair and set it alight as a torch. Under the sudden burst of light, he saw the horrid form of the once beautiful and graceful Izanami. The flesh of her ravaged body was rotting and was overrun with maggots and foul creatures.
Crying out loud, Izanagi could no longer control his fear and started to run, intending to return to the living and to abandon his death-ridden wife. Izanami woke up shrieking and indignant and chased after him. Izanami instructed the shikome, or foul women, hunt for the frightened Izanagi and to bring him back.
Izanagi, thinking quickly, hurled his headdress, which became a bunch of black grapes. The shikome fell on these but continued pursuit. Next, Izanagi threw his comb, which became a clump of bamboo shoots. Now it was Yomi's creatures that began to give chase, but Izanagi urinated against a tree and created a great river that increased his lead. Unfortunately, the shikome still pursued Izanagi, who began to hurl peaches at them. He knew that this would not delay them for long, but he was nearly free, for the boundary of Yomi was now close at hand.
Izanagi burst through the entrance and quickly pushed a boulder to the entrance of Yomi. Izanami screamed from behind this barricade and told Izanagi that, if he left her, she would destroy 1,000 living people every day. He furiously replied that he would give life to 1,500.
And so began the existence of Death, caused by the hands of the proud Izanami, the abandoned wife of Izanagi.
It may be a stretch, but this could be the ROOT cause of why the Uchiha have adopted the curse of hatred.
The Uchiha are bound by an intense LOVE and thus, are prone to emotional triggers. The emotion trigger may have derived from Izanagi’s anger from the death of his wife.
Onward with the story of Izanagi:
As could be expected, Izanagi went on to purify himself after recovering from his descent to Yomi. As he undressed and removed the adornments of his body, each item that he dropped to the ground formed a deity. Even more gods came into being when he went to the water to wash himself. The most important ones were created once he washed his face:
• Amaterasu (incarnation of the sun) from his left eye,
• Tsukuyomi (incarnation of the moon) from his right eye, and
• Susanoo (incarnation of storms and ruler of the sea and storms) from his nose.
Izanagi went on to divide the world between them with Amaterasu inheriting the heavens, Tsukuyomi taking control of the night and moon and the storm god Susanoo owning the seas.[6] In some versions of the myth, Susanoo rules not only the seas but also all elements of a storm, including snow and hail, and, in rare cases, even sand
• Amaterasu (incarnation of the sun) from his left eye,
• Tsukuyomi (incarnation of the moon) from his right eye, and
• Susanoo (incarnation of storms and ruler of the sea and storms) from his nose.
Izanagi went on to divide the world between them with Amaterasu inheriting the heavens, Tsukuyomi taking control of the night and moon and the storm god Susanoo owning the seas.[6] In some versions of the myth, Susanoo rules not only the seas but also all elements of a storm, including snow and hail, and, in rare cases, even sand
Sound familiar? Let's continue with Amaterasu and Susanno history:
Amaterasu and Susanoo
Amaterasu, the powerful sun goddess of Japan, is the most well known deity of Japanese mythology. Her feuding with Susanoo, her uncontrollable brother, however, is equally infamous and appears in several tales.
One story tells about Susanoo's wicked behavior toward Izanagi, who, tired of Susanoo's repeated complaints, banishes him to Yomi. Susanoo grudgingly acquiesces, but has first to attend some unfinished business. He goes to Takamagahara ("heaven") to bid farewell to his sister, Amaterasu. Amaterasu knows that her unpredictable brother does not have good intentions and is prepared for battle. "For what purpose do you come here?" asks Amaterasu. "To say farewell," answers Susanoo.
But she does not believe him and requests a contest for proof of his good faith. A challenge is set as to who can bring forth more noble and divine children. Amaterasu creates three women from Susanoo's sword, while Susanoo makes five men from Amaterasu's ornament chain. Amaterasu claims the title to the five are attributed to Susanoo.
Both gods declare themselves to be victorious. Amaterasu's insistence in her claim drives Susanoo to violent campaigns that reach their climax when he hurls a half-flayed pony (an animal sacred to Amaterasu) into Amaterasu's weaving hall and causes the death of one of her attendants. Amaterasu, angered by the display, hides in the cave called Iwayado. As the sun goddess disappears into the cave, darkness covers the world.
All of the gods and goddesses strive to coax Amaterasu out of the cave, but she ignores them all. Finally, the kami of merriment, Ame-no-Uzume, hatches a plan. She places a large bronze mirror on a tree, facing Amaterasu's cave. Then, Uzume clothes herself in flowers and leaves, overturns a washtub and begins to dance upon it, drumming the tub with her feet. Finally, Uzume sheds the leaves and flowers and dances naked. All of the male gods roar with laughter, and Amaterasu becomes curious.
When she peeks outside, a ray of light called "dawn" escapes and Amaterasu is dazzled by the beautiful goddess that she sees, this being her own reflection in the mirror. The god, Ameno-Tajikarawo, pulls her from the cave, which is sealed with a shimenawa. Surrounded by merriment, Amaterasu's depression disappears, and she agrees to return with her light. Uzume is then known as the kami of dawn as well as of mirth
One story tells about Susanoo's wicked behavior toward Izanagi, who, tired of Susanoo's repeated complaints, banishes him to Yomi. Susanoo grudgingly acquiesces, but has first to attend some unfinished business. He goes to Takamagahara ("heaven") to bid farewell to his sister, Amaterasu. Amaterasu knows that her unpredictable brother does not have good intentions and is prepared for battle. "For what purpose do you come here?" asks Amaterasu. "To say farewell," answers Susanoo.
But she does not believe him and requests a contest for proof of his good faith. A challenge is set as to who can bring forth more noble and divine children. Amaterasu creates three women from Susanoo's sword, while Susanoo makes five men from Amaterasu's ornament chain. Amaterasu claims the title to the five are attributed to Susanoo.
Both gods declare themselves to be victorious. Amaterasu's insistence in her claim drives Susanoo to violent campaigns that reach their climax when he hurls a half-flayed pony (an animal sacred to Amaterasu) into Amaterasu's weaving hall and causes the death of one of her attendants. Amaterasu, angered by the display, hides in the cave called Iwayado. As the sun goddess disappears into the cave, darkness covers the world.
All of the gods and goddesses strive to coax Amaterasu out of the cave, but she ignores them all. Finally, the kami of merriment, Ame-no-Uzume, hatches a plan. She places a large bronze mirror on a tree, facing Amaterasu's cave. Then, Uzume clothes herself in flowers and leaves, overturns a washtub and begins to dance upon it, drumming the tub with her feet. Finally, Uzume sheds the leaves and flowers and dances naked. All of the male gods roar with laughter, and Amaterasu becomes curious.
When she peeks outside, a ray of light called "dawn" escapes and Amaterasu is dazzled by the beautiful goddess that she sees, this being her own reflection in the mirror. The god, Ameno-Tajikarawo, pulls her from the cave, which is sealed with a shimenawa. Surrounded by merriment, Amaterasu's depression disappears, and she agrees to return with her light. Uzume is then known as the kami of dawn as well as of mirth
So the story of Susanno is kind of interesting, BUT what's even MORE interesting is the next story of Susannoo and Orochi. Yeah that's right, this all ties together with the relationship between the UCHIHA and OROCHIMARU:
Susanoo and Orochi
Susanoo, exiled from heaven, comes to Izumo Province (now part of Shimane Prefecture). It is not long before he meets an old man and an old woman sobbing beside their daughter. The old couple explain that they originally had eight daughters who were devoured, one after the other, by the dragon, Yamata no Orochi ("eight-forked serpent", who is said to originate from Kosi—now Hokuriku region). The terrible dragon had eight heads and eight tails, stretched over eight hills, and is said to have eyes as red as good wine.[7] Kushinada-hime ("rice paddy princess") was the last of the eight daughters.
Susanoo, who knew about the old couple's relation to Amaterasu, offers his assistance in return for their beautiful daughter's hand in marriage. The parents accept, and Susanoo transforms Kushinada into a comb and hides her safely in his hair.[8] He also orders a large fence-like barrier to be built around the house. The fence has eight gates, with eight tables placed at each gate and eight casks placed on each table. Each cask is filled with eight-times-brewed rice wine.
Orochi arrives and finds his path blocked. After boasting about his prowess, he finds that he cannot get through the barrier. His keen sense of smell takes in the sake—which Orochi loves—and the eight heads are now faced with a problem. They want to drink the delicious sake, yet the fence blocks access to the sake. One head suggests that they simply smash the barrier, but that would knock over the sake. Another proposed that they combine their fiery breath and burn the fence to ash, but then the sake would evaporate.
The heads begin to search for an opening. They find the hatches, and, eager for the sake, they wish to poke their heads through to drink it. Yet, the eighth head, which is the wisest, warns his brethren about the folly of such an act and volunteers to go through first to ensure that all is well. Susanoo waits for his chance. He allows the head to drink some sake in safety and to report to the others that there is no danger. All eight heads plunge through the hatches and greedily drink every drop of the sake.
As the heads finish, Susanoo launches his attack on Orochi. Drunken from drinking so much sake, the great serpent is no match for the spry Susanoo who decapitates and slays Orochi. A nearby river is said to have turned red with the blood of the defeated serpent. As Susanoo cuts the dragon into pieces, he finds an excellent sword from a tail of the dragon that his sword had been unable to cut.
The sword is later presented to Amaterasu and named Ama no Murakumo no Tsurugi (天叢雲剣, "Sword of the Gathering Clouds of Heaven", which was later called Kusanagi, "Grass Cutter"[9]). This sword was to feature prominently in many other tales.
Susanoo, who knew about the old couple's relation to Amaterasu, offers his assistance in return for their beautiful daughter's hand in marriage. The parents accept, and Susanoo transforms Kushinada into a comb and hides her safely in his hair.[8] He also orders a large fence-like barrier to be built around the house. The fence has eight gates, with eight tables placed at each gate and eight casks placed on each table. Each cask is filled with eight-times-brewed rice wine.
Orochi arrives and finds his path blocked. After boasting about his prowess, he finds that he cannot get through the barrier. His keen sense of smell takes in the sake—which Orochi loves—and the eight heads are now faced with a problem. They want to drink the delicious sake, yet the fence blocks access to the sake. One head suggests that they simply smash the barrier, but that would knock over the sake. Another proposed that they combine their fiery breath and burn the fence to ash, but then the sake would evaporate.
The heads begin to search for an opening. They find the hatches, and, eager for the sake, they wish to poke their heads through to drink it. Yet, the eighth head, which is the wisest, warns his brethren about the folly of such an act and volunteers to go through first to ensure that all is well. Susanoo waits for his chance. He allows the head to drink some sake in safety and to report to the others that there is no danger. All eight heads plunge through the hatches and greedily drink every drop of the sake.
As the heads finish, Susanoo launches his attack on Orochi. Drunken from drinking so much sake, the great serpent is no match for the spry Susanoo who decapitates and slays Orochi. A nearby river is said to have turned red with the blood of the defeated serpent. As Susanoo cuts the dragon into pieces, he finds an excellent sword from a tail of the dragon that his sword had been unable to cut.
The sword is later presented to Amaterasu and named Ama no Murakumo no Tsurugi (天叢雲剣, "Sword of the Gathering Clouds of Heaven", which was later called Kusanagi, "Grass Cutter"[9]). This sword was to feature prominently in many other tales.
Now I don't know about you, but this almost entirely parallels Itachi's right against Orochimaru. It was so fascinating that Kishimoto ties this altogether, so what else is there to learn?! How about the descendants of Susanno??
Prince Ōkuninushi
Mostly known by his nickname Ōkuninushi, Ōnamuji was a descendant of Susanoo, and represented the power structure localized in the Izumo area. Ōkuninushi's people succeeded in unifying territory to some measure, but later relinquished control to the Yamato-based clans, as described in the Tenson kōrin chapter, below.
Now that sounds a lottttt like Madara trying to gain control of the 'Yamato-based' clans.. In Naruto, Yamato was a clone of Hashirama.. Or maybe it was foretelling the story of OBITO UCHIHA... let's continue
Ōkuninushi helps the white hare- Hare of Inaba
A tale of how the merciful Ōkuninushi helped the beleaguered rabbit or hare is of enduring fame, and often told as a sort of a Mukashibanashi or "once upon a time tale". It is found in Kojiki but not recorded in the "Nihongi".
Ōkuninushi (at the time he was just Ōnamuji without the august nickname) and his brothers, eighty gods altogether were rival suitors courting Princess Yakami/Yagami (八上比売?) of Inaba to become his wife. They started out of their homeland of Izumo headed for the neighboring province, when the group encountered a rabbit who has been flayed (by crocodile-fish, usually interpreted as sharks) and lying in agony upon a sea shore. In a wicked-hearted gesture, they advise the rabbit to bathe in the briny sea and blow himself dry in the wind.
The rabbit finds himself in worse agony. Ōnamuji, who came lagging behind, takes pity on the creature and tells it to wash himself in fresh water, then roll in the scattered fleece of the cattail plants. The cured rabbit makes a divined prediction that Ōnamuji will be the one to win Princess Yakami, "though thou bearest the bag,"[10] (Evidently his brother was treating him as a luggage carrier).
Princess Suseri
As the hare predicted, Princess Yakami pronounces her choice of Ōnamuji for husband before the eighty gods, and they all conspire and kill him twice over. His mother petitions Kamimusubi(ja), one of the creator deities, and resuscitates him each time, finally sending him off to seek Susanoo who has been banished to the Netherworld (Ne-no-kuni(ja)), and to obtain his wise counsel.
Here Ōnamuji meets face to face with Susanoo's daughter Suseri-hime and they immediately marry. The crafty Susanoo tests Ōnamuji several times, but, in the end, Susanoo approves of the young boy and foretells Ōnamuji's victory over his brothers.
Although the Yamato tradition attributes the creation of the Japanese islands to Izanagi and Izanami, the Izumo tradition claims that Ōnamuji, along with a dwarf god called Sukunabiko, contribute to, or at least finish, the creation of the Japanese islands
Now that sounds a lottttt like Madara trying to gain control of the 'Yamato-based' clans.. In Naruto, Yamato was a clone of Hashirama.. Or maybe it was foretelling the story of OBITO UCHIHA... let's continue
Ōkuninushi helps the white hare- Hare of Inaba
A tale of how the merciful Ōkuninushi helped the beleaguered rabbit or hare is of enduring fame, and often told as a sort of a Mukashibanashi or "once upon a time tale". It is found in Kojiki but not recorded in the "Nihongi".
Ōkuninushi (at the time he was just Ōnamuji without the august nickname) and his brothers, eighty gods altogether were rival suitors courting Princess Yakami/Yagami (八上比売?) of Inaba to become his wife. They started out of their homeland of Izumo headed for the neighboring province, when the group encountered a rabbit who has been flayed (by crocodile-fish, usually interpreted as sharks) and lying in agony upon a sea shore. In a wicked-hearted gesture, they advise the rabbit to bathe in the briny sea and blow himself dry in the wind.
The rabbit finds himself in worse agony. Ōnamuji, who came lagging behind, takes pity on the creature and tells it to wash himself in fresh water, then roll in the scattered fleece of the cattail plants. The cured rabbit makes a divined prediction that Ōnamuji will be the one to win Princess Yakami, "though thou bearest the bag,"[10] (Evidently his brother was treating him as a luggage carrier).
Princess Suseri
As the hare predicted, Princess Yakami pronounces her choice of Ōnamuji for husband before the eighty gods, and they all conspire and kill him twice over. His mother petitions Kamimusubi(ja), one of the creator deities, and resuscitates him each time, finally sending him off to seek Susanoo who has been banished to the Netherworld (Ne-no-kuni(ja)), and to obtain his wise counsel.
Here Ōnamuji meets face to face with Susanoo's daughter Suseri-hime and they immediately marry. The crafty Susanoo tests Ōnamuji several times, but, in the end, Susanoo approves of the young boy and foretells Ōnamuji's victory over his brothers.
Although the Yamato tradition attributes the creation of the Japanese islands to Izanagi and Izanami, the Izumo tradition claims that Ōnamuji, along with a dwarf god called Sukunabiko, contribute to, or at least finish, the creation of the Japanese islands
Could this be the story of Obito Uchiha falling in love and being sacrificed, only to be brought back and to seek SUSANNOO for guidance? It is entirely up for interpretation, but I found it interesting nontheless.
How about the History of the Hyuuga?
We all know that the Hyuuga clan have gifted eyes as well, similar to the Uchiha. I believe that they are actually DESCENDANTS of the Uchiha Clan. I know that in the manga it states the the Hyuuga are the 'oldest clan', but I find that this is incorrect due to the fact that the SO6P's sons gave birth to the Uchiha and Senju clans. HOWEVER, I believe that the Hyuuga are ONE OF THE OLDEST clans due to the fact that they are descendants of the Uchiha.
Here is the story of Ninigi-no-Mikoto , the GRANDSON of AMATERASU
Ninigi's descent to the Middle World - HISTORY OF THE 3 SACRED TREASURES AND HYUUGA CLAN
Main article: Tenson kōrin
In the Nihongi here begins the section entitled "Age of the Gods: Part II"[11] (kamiyo ge-kan (神代下巻?)).
The episode of the Tenson kōrin (天孫降臨 "Descent of the Heavenly Grandson"?) begins with description of how the heavenly gods (Ama-tsu-kami) who dwelled in the Heavenly Plains (Takama-ga-hara) peered down upon the earth below (known by the stilted name Ashihara no Nakatsukuni (葦原中国 "Reedy Plains Middle World"?).
It represents Japan, not the whole wide world), and dispatched various members of their own kind to subjugate it. Amaterasu had decreed her own grandson Ninigi should rule the terrestrial world, but the terrestrial gods (kuni-tsu-kami) were not altogether willing to hand it over, and odd sorts of terrestrial gods were still lurking about making it too dangerous.
Some of the gods first appointed to quell the middle world were derelict in their mission, or joined leagues with the terrestrial gods. After several false starts, two gods were finally successful. They were Ame-no-ohabari(ja) (aka Itsu-no-ohabari; elsewhere this kami is said to be a sword) and Takemikazuchi.
They embarked aboard the Ame-no-torifune(ja) or "Deity Heavenly-Bird-Boat"[12] to their military campaign. These two sabre-rattling deities were able to frighten Ōkuninushi's two sons into flight, causing Ōkuninushi to abdicate and relinquish the territories to the Heavenly Grandson.[13]
Amaterasu was now able to decree the Tenson kōrin (天孫降臨 "Descent of the Heavenly Grandson"?), also referred to as amori, amakudari (天降り "descent from heaven"?), installing her grandson to rule over the terrestrial middle world. She endowed him the Three Sacred Treasures (Imperial Regalia of Japan):[14][15]
• the magatama necklace of Yasakani no magatama (now situated in the imperial palace);
• the bronze mirror of Yata no kagami (now in the Grand Shrine of Ise); and
• the sword Kusanagi (a possible replica of which is now in Atsuta Shrine, Nagoya).
The mirror was to be worshipped as a representation of Amaterasu. A number of deities were made to make the descent at this time.
Ninigi and his company went down to the earth and came to Himuka (Hyūga province, today's Miyazaki prefecture), there he founded his palace
The episode of the Tenson kōrin (天孫降臨 "Descent of the Heavenly Grandson"?) begins with description of how the heavenly gods (Ama-tsu-kami) who dwelled in the Heavenly Plains (Takama-ga-hara) peered down upon the earth below (known by the stilted name Ashihara no Nakatsukuni (葦原中国 "Reedy Plains Middle World"?).
It represents Japan, not the whole wide world), and dispatched various members of their own kind to subjugate it. Amaterasu had decreed her own grandson Ninigi should rule the terrestrial world, but the terrestrial gods (kuni-tsu-kami) were not altogether willing to hand it over, and odd sorts of terrestrial gods were still lurking about making it too dangerous.
Some of the gods first appointed to quell the middle world were derelict in their mission, or joined leagues with the terrestrial gods. After several false starts, two gods were finally successful. They were Ame-no-ohabari(ja) (aka Itsu-no-ohabari; elsewhere this kami is said to be a sword) and Takemikazuchi.
They embarked aboard the Ame-no-torifune(ja) or "Deity Heavenly-Bird-Boat"[12] to their military campaign. These two sabre-rattling deities were able to frighten Ōkuninushi's two sons into flight, causing Ōkuninushi to abdicate and relinquish the territories to the Heavenly Grandson.[13]
Amaterasu was now able to decree the Tenson kōrin (天孫降臨 "Descent of the Heavenly Grandson"?), also referred to as amori, amakudari (天降り "descent from heaven"?), installing her grandson to rule over the terrestrial middle world. She endowed him the Three Sacred Treasures (Imperial Regalia of Japan):[14][15]
• the magatama necklace of Yasakani no magatama (now situated in the imperial palace);
• the bronze mirror of Yata no kagami (now in the Grand Shrine of Ise); and
• the sword Kusanagi (a possible replica of which is now in Atsuta Shrine, Nagoya).
The mirror was to be worshipped as a representation of Amaterasu. A number of deities were made to make the descent at this time.
Ninigi and his company went down to the earth and came to Himuka (Hyūga province, today's Miyazaki prefecture), there he founded his palace
In Conclusion
This thread is just for readers to get a better sense of what depth Kishimoto puts into his writing. I am an active reader and found that these tales of ancient Japanese gods really gave light to some of the mysteries that surround the Uchiha clan. I know that the thread is very long, but I hope that you enjoyed read as much as I did.
and before I forget- ALL SOURCES ARE CREDITED TO WIKIPEDIA.
Feel free to comment and give your opinions. Rate/Comment/Rep if ya enjoyed!
Thanks! :bye:
-ShadowCloneJutsu
