Naruto above Nagato, Minato and Tobirama?

[blake spartan]

i see most people on the base seem to think that naruto is now above characters like nagato, minato and tobirama which is wrong. i will agree that in terms of strength and fire power naruto is ahead of them but in truth naruto can't handle a battle with the likes of these ninja. if however naruto had a bit more intelligence he could over come these ninja but if he fights them with no intel on how these ninja's jutsu work he can't even hope to win. just my opinion.

brains over power anyday. Shikamaru proved this.

What are your thoughts?

 

[KidGamer65]

Alive Minato and Tobirama get manhandled by Naruto. He takes Nagato mid diff, now that he can combine Senjutsu with his Bijuu Mode, Nagato won't be able to absorb his cloak or too much of his senjutsu attacks otherwise he'll turn to stone.

Intelligence is nothing in the face of overwhelming power such as Naruto's. Absolutely nothing.

 

[Thundergod123]

Idk yet but maybe...

 

[FreakensteinAG]

The gap between the two groups in battle expertise slims up a little when Naruto goes in Sage Mode (as we've seen, he's more calm and collected when he goes in this stage), but not enough to be *that* adept. He still comes up with plans on the spot, instead of ahead of time.

 

[Amaterasuice]

First of all, Bsm Naruto solos mid diff Minato or Nagato.

Secondly, what the hell can Tobirama do to prove he's even close to Naruto's strength?

If brains>power anyday, Shikamaru>Sage of six paths

 

[Edo Odin]

He does beat them. As annoying as it sounds, his newfound powers have but him above almost any character in the series.

 

[Xlad]

BSM Naruto practically has the ability to use danger sensing/natural reflexes in conjunction with foot speed. Going by that logic, Hiruzen>EMS Sasuke since its the premise of Brains>Brawns you are going with.

 

[Fair Warning]

Vs Minato:
Gets FTG rushed and is too dumb to notice that Minato can place seals.

Vs Nagato:
Shinra tensei GG, Soul absorbed, Animal summons, Mecha Path, He wouldnt be able to realize he cant absorb senjutsu

Vs Tobirama:
Naruto actually wins IMO

 

[Klad]

Yes , he does beat them . It is safe to assume that Naruto > Nagato , Tobirama and Minato though .

 

[blake spartan]

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A senjutsu attack was still absorbed nagato can't absorb naruto chakra or cloak but he can still absorb his attacks and rip his soul out

 

[KidGamer65]

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A senjutsu attack was still absorbed nagato can't absorb naruto chakra or cloak but he can still absorb his attacks and rip his soul out

You only turn into a frog when you absorb too much Senjutsu chakra. The amount of Senjutsu chakra in a BSM Bijuu Dama is a far greater amount than an SM FRS.

Not to mention he can attack Nagato with his tails, as he'd turn to stone if he absorbed them to counter.

 

[blake spartan]

BSM Naruto practically has the ability to use danger sensing/natural reflexes in conjunction with foot speed. Going by that logic, Hiruzen>EMS Sasuke since its the premise of Brains>Brawns you are going with.

its hard to say what i mean in words like naruto beats shikamaru but if naruto vs minato, minato who can hold his own vs naruto but is not stronger will be able to use his intelligence to over come naruto if that makes any sense

 

[take it easy]

brains over power anyday. Shikamaru proved this.

shikamaru brains useless in this war.

He still comes up with plans on the spot, instead of ahead of time.

foot thinking in war>>>>>>> plan. real war prove it.

 

[Transcendence]

He was above them all with BM. BSM he stomps Minato and Tobirama. Nagato is a mid difficulty fight.

 

[blake spartan]

You only turn into a frog when you absorb too much Senjutsu chakra. The amount of Senjutsu chakra in a BSM Bijuu Dama is a far greater amount than an SM FRS.

Not to mention he can attack Nagato with his tails, as he'd turn to stone if he absorbed them to counter.

wouldn't need too shinra tensei and naruto is blown away and there is nothing naruto can do about it, pull him back and hit him with shura ... that won't kill naruto but 10 more of those and he will be

 

[Transcendence]

wouldn't need too shinra tensei and naruto is blown away and there is nothing naruto can do about it, pull him back and hit him with shura ... that won't kill naruto but 10 more of those and he will be

Shinra Tensei is a force. 6T Naruto was able to thwart Shinra Tensei with superior force and it has a 5 sec delay. BSM Naruto has much greater force than 6T Kyuubi Naruto and will easily thwart any Shinra Tensei from Nagato.

 

[Optimistic]

Km Naruto > Minato and Tobirama

Bm Naruto >=Nagato >>>>>>>Minato and Tobirama

BSM Naruto > Nagato >>>>>>>>>>>>Minato and Tobirama.

 

[thatgirl]

Nagato got outsmarted so many times during the konoha invasion, it isnt even funny

Naruto noticed and deduced the same thing that Tobirama did

He didnt figure out tobi's jutsu and how to beat it like Minato did but thats irrelevant as he can overpower him

 

[KidGamer65]

wouldn't need too shinra tensei and naruto is blown away and there is nothing naruto can do about it, pull him back and hit him with shura ... that won't kill naruto but 10 more of those and he will be

Transcendence said most of what I was going to say. Also Asura lasers aren't going to do much considering his cloak let him survive Juubi's laser.

 

[blake spartan]

Shinra Tensei is a force. 6T Naruto was able to thwart Shinra Tensei with superior force and it has a 5 sec delay. BSM Naruto has much greater force than 6T Kyuubi Naruto and will easily thwart any Shinra Tensei from Nagato.

you are dead right however nagato can just increase the force as well when the six tail v2 of naruto fought deva path nagato had way less then half his chakra and still survived there is no telling what nagato could do with all his chakra focused on one body