How far apart are Itachi and Minato battlewise now?

[blazekev90]

Garra solos them both tho

On topic: any form of edo Minato defeats Itachi

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Itachi is the more skilled Shinobi in this case.

At age 7 Itachi had the wisdom and mindset of a hokage praised by the 3rd Hokage, 13 yrs old defeated Orochimaru also being the leader of the anbu. At one point Orochimaru admitted that Itachi was stronger then him earlier in the story, Orochimaru rubs it in the Hiruzen & Minato face he would of made a better fourth, that Sarutobi made the wrong choice of hokage to which who would benefit the leaf more.

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Minato & Itachi have been in similar situations​

Killer B has faced Minato in battle before seen his techinque and bested minato in the process, Killer B saved his brother A from minato strike and was able to leave a sword right next to minato stomach that minato hadn't realize until it was to late. Killer B faced Itachi also threw out the whole fight hasn't laid not one finger on Itachi the whole fight he was even able to quickly move behind be told him he was behind him took a swing and still missed.

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Obito admitted that Itachi was the only one in the village to notice the presence of him skilled hokages ,sensors, tracking ninjas, ninja dogs,Anbu weren't able to do this including minato the 4th Hokage he was also a sensor.

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Minato 3 giant frog summonings weren't even able to stop nagato summoning dog, they couldn't defeat it direct they had to reach out and attack the animal path of pain to do it were Itachi already used Amaterasu and stop it with oneshot.

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I've seen people say Itachi has low chakra reserve but were did you guys get all that from the Uchiha clan are known for there great chakra, It makes sense knowing that the elder son was born with the sages chakra a unhealthy Itachi was able to use it at this extent and ise Amaterasu 6x.

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I'll have to give this to Itachi

Itachi beats Minato
Edo Minato beats Itachi
Edo Itachi beats Minato
Edo Itachi beats Edo Minato

 

[TheEvilOne]

@ Excite, current BM Minato shits on Edo Itachi.

 

[Bogard]

Minato is the unsurpassed one, to the point even arrogant A can't do much but keep fanboying him

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Even Hiruzen took inspiration in him

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Jiraya couldn't help but say no one can be compared to him

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Even the century alive entity created by RS like Kyubi can't help but be amazed by Minato

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Last but nonetheless important, Itachi himself acknowledging Minato's greatness

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Comparison between Itachi and Minato

Speed

Itachi and Minato had a similar confrontation with Sasuke. When the former despite not wanting Sasuke to follow him didn't even manage to outpace him, the latter didn't only left him in the dust, but had time to save put markings on different locations, save the alliance against Jubi's Bijudama, start a chat with Sakura and Naruto, and after Hokages arrival, put them in position and form a barrier all that before Sasuke even came

Opponents

Minato and Itachi had a confrontation with Bee, but when the latter could barely handle Bee's swords style, the former was handling A-Bee duo without breaking a sweat with their opponents barely keeping up with every move he made

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Minato vs A and Bee confrontation

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Talking about their seemingly first confrontation, i would like to confirm it was indeed a 1vs2(Minato vs Bee and A), because some non-believers/haters/trolls who always try to downplay Minato's performance by refusing to acknowledge this. Bee said it himself "with my brother here, we can take you out"

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We talk about the strongest duo in Kumo, so they worked their combos perfectly together over years or decades

For example, A would have been killed here by Minato during the first exchange if not Bee's intervention

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His attack was able not only to cut Hachibi's tentacle but even creating a crater, indicating the power of the attack. A even himself acknowledge he was almost dead, reason why he says "sorry Bee"

Bee as a support most likely noticed the kunai and used his long range tentacle attack to protect his brother beforehand

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But even in a 1vs2 configuration, even attacking from behind, Minato still had time to put a marking on him. Look how shocked and baffled A about it(he is even sweating just realising how fast he reacted)

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When Bee did all he could just to accomplish what he did. Just look how much of a effort we see it took him on this panel, he hardly even breaths, with A asking him if he is ok

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With a marking on him, Bee was already a dead walking body. It's true however that Bee still somehow managed to protect himself against the first Hiraishin assault towards him, but notice that even using Hiraishin, instead of stabbing him directly like he did against Obito for example, he just pointed his kunai on Bee's head in order to threaten the duo

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This again indicates that he had no grudge against the duo and found them sympathic more than anything else, reason why he didn't want to harm them

So basically in 2moves, he pressured A and Bee duo to the point that he could have killed them with every moves he made. When he wasn't even sweating, the duo was struggling to the point that they were hardly breathing. He got the best over them without even trying

But like Minato has shown, he is a nice guy. Reason why even after gotten the advantage over them, he prefered sparing their life rather than killing them. At this point for example, he knew he already put a marking on Bee, but still preferred avoiding the confrontation and thus sparing their life

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Minato and Itachi had another comparable threat(Obito). When the later

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, the former owned him in matter of seconds

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Differences between Itachi and Minato

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Minato:

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Itachi:

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How Itachi handles the Uchiha coup d'etat:

Choose to stop a civil war by killing Uchihas

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How Minato would handle Uchiha coup d'etat:

Choose to stop the civil war without killing Uchihas

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What Itachi thinks about Minato:

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What Minato thinks about Itachi:

Oops nothing

Like you can see, it's easy for me to do that

 

[Forbidden Technique]

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Itachi is the more skilled Shinobi in this case.

At age 7 Itachi had the wisdom and mindset of a hokage praised by the 3rd Hokage, 13 yrs old defeated Orochimaru also being the leader of the anbu. At one point Orochimaru admitted that Itachi was stronger then him earlier in the story, Orochimaru rubs it in the Hiruzen & Minato face he would of made a better fourth, that Sarutobi made the wrong choice of hokage to which who would benefit the leaf more.

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Minato & Itachi have been in similar situations​

Killer B has faced Minato in battle before seen his techinque and bested minato in the process, Killer B saved his brother A from minato strike and was able to leave a sword right next to minato stomach that minato hadn't realize until it was to late. Killer B faced Itachi also threw out the whole fight hasn't laid not one finger on Itachi the whole fight he was even able to quickly move behind be told him he was behind him took a swing and still missed.

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Obito admitted that Itachi was the only one in the village to notice the presence of him skilled hokages ,sensors, tracking ninjas, ninja dogs,Anbu weren't able to do this including minato the 4th Hokage he was also a sensor.

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Minato 3 giant frog summonings weren't even able to stop nagato summoning dog, they couldn't defeat it direct they had to reach out and attack the animal path of pain to do it were Itachi already used Amaterasu and stop it with oneshot.

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I've seen people say Itachi has low chakra reserve but were did you guys get all that from the Uchiha clan are known for there great chakra, It makes sense knowing that the elder son was born with the sages chakra a unhealthy Itachi was able to use it at this extent and ise Amaterasu 6x.

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2nd 3rd 4th 5th maybe even a 6th time

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I'll have to give this to Itachi

Itachi beats Minato
Edo Minato beats Itachi
Edo Itachi beats Minato
Edo Itachi beats Edo Minato

This was great; I enjoyed reading it. But I disagree with your conclusion.

IMO; Edo Minato > Edo Itachi > Minato > Itachi

 

[Prince Charles]

It all comes down to matter of opinion really. Also bogard I dont see the point in using Ay as a means of hyping up Minato, he was simply showing respect and as you said was fapping him. Itachi and Minato credibility and reputation are about equal if anything. And for the last time how many times will you continue to say that Itachi barely kept up with Bee when even the anime effortlessly shows during that confrontation how Itachi swiftly and effortlessly evaded Bee's 7 sword style attack like a cake walk.

 

[Zexion~]

Lol using genjutsu on a clone a waste of chakra?

When the clone is Released/Destroyed its experiences rush into the user's mind....So the genjutsu would then affect the caster of the clone jutsu as well

Anyways

Edo Minato>Edo Itachi>Alive Itachi>Minato

Who is ext. overrated lol

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

This was great; I enjoyed reading it. But I disagree with your conclusion.

IMO; Edo Minato > Edo Itachi > Minato > Itachi

Thanks

Minato is the unsurpassed one, to the point even arrogant A can't do much but keep fanboying him

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Even Hiruzen took inspiration in him

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Jiraya couldn't help but say no one can be compared to him

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Even the century alive entity created by RS like Kyubi can't help but be amazed by Minato

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Last but nonetheless important, Itachi himself acknowledging Minato's greatness

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Comparison between Itachi and Minato

Speed

Itachi and Minato had a similar confrontation with Sasuke. When the former despite not wanting Sasuke to follow him didn't even manage to outpace him, the latter didn't only left him in the dust, but had time to save put markings on different locations, save the alliance against Jubi's Bijudama, start a chat with Sakura and Naruto, and after Hokages arrival, put them in position and form a barrier all that before Sasuke even came

Opponents

Minato and Itachi had a confrontation with Bee, but when the latter could barely handle Bee's swords style, the former was handling A-Bee duo without breaking a sweat with their opponents barely keeping up with every move he made

Itachi vs Bee

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Minato vs A and Bee confrontation

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Talking about their seemingly first confrontation, i would like to confirm it was indeed a 1vs2(Minato vs Bee and A), because some non-believers/haters/trolls who always try to downplay Minato's performance by refusing to acknowledge this. Bee said it himself "with my brother here, we can take you out"

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We talk about the strongest duo in Kumo, so they worked their combos perfectly together over years or decades

For example, A would have been killed here by Minato during the first exchange if not Bee's intervention

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His attack was able not only to cut Hachibi's tentacle but even creating a crater, indicating the power of the attack. A even himself acknowledge he was almost dead, reason why he says "sorry Bee"

Bee as a support most likely noticed the kunai and used his long range tentacle attack to protect his brother beforehand

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But even in a 1vs2 configuration, even attacking from behind, Minato still had time to put a marking on him. Look how shocked and baffled A about it(he is even sweating just realising how fast he reacted)

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When Bee did all he could just to accomplish what he did. Just look how much of a effort we see it took him on this panel, he hardly even breaths, with A asking him if he is ok

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With a marking on him, Bee was already a dead walking body. It's true however that Bee still somehow managed to protect himself against the first Hiraishin assault towards him, but notice that even using Hiraishin, instead of stabbing him directly like he did against Obito for example, he just pointed his kunai on Bee's head in order to threaten the duo

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This again indicates that he had no grudge against the duo and found them sympathic more than anything else, reason why he didn't want to harm them

So basically in 2moves, he pressured A and Bee duo to the point that he could have killed them with every moves he made. When he wasn't even sweating, the duo was struggling to the point that they were hardly breathing. He got the best over them without even trying

But like Minato has shown, he is a nice guy. Reason why even after gotten the advantage over them, he prefered sparing their life rather than killing them. At this point for example, he knew he already put a marking on Bee, but still preferred avoiding the confrontation and thus sparing their life

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Minato and Itachi had another comparable threat(Obito). When the later

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, the former owned him in matter of seconds

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Differences between Itachi and Minato

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Minato:

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Itachi:

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How Itachi handles the Uchiha coup d'etat:

Choose to stop a civil war by killing Uchihas

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How Minato would handle Uchiha coup d'etat:

Choose to stop the civil war without killing Uchihas

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What Itachi thinks about Minato:

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What Minato thinks about Itachi:

Oops nothing

Like you can see, it's easy for me to do that

Getting praised everyone was praised itachi has been praised more by ninja of higher value

Kabuto who has 30 plus edo kg, sage mode, white snake power, healing abilties, medical ninja etc praised itachi ,Kabuto stated itachi was elite even amongst the elite uchiha clan & Kabuto edo summoning solo'd the 5 kages. Kabuto is a ninja of many talent and knowledge compared to his words to the other shinobi it's much more valuable then others I'd say.

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Lets see what Top Tier Ninja's think of Itachi

What Top Tier Ninja's think of Itachi

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Killer B
Sasuke
Oonoki
Orochimaru
Kabuto
Madara
Obito
Hiruzen
Hashirama
Tobirama

Etc


Please bogard can you show me a scan were Killer B actually landed a hit on Itachi please *_* he was beating him he was dodging all his hits landed a genjustu & ninjustu on Killer B

The battle Killer b and Minato he was saving A from Minato and even stated he was not even started minato even praised on being a skilled ninja.

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Minato head was turned he was to cocky talking about he wouldn't fail but failed to release he fell right into killer b trap he had to lower his head to see it killer b had the chance to stab him and even dare him. Like playing a game of chess got his queen checked.


The Situation with Killer B and Itachi it was two on 1 at one point why are you leaving that out i've stated before Killer B saved A i'll ask again please show me a scan were killer b actually landed a hit.

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@ Excite, current BM Minato shits on Edo Itachi.

Cool story my dude

 

[Bogard]

Lol using genjutsu on a clone a waste of chakra?

When the clone is Released/Destroyed its experiences rush into the user's mind....So the genjutsu would then affect the caster of the clone jutsu as well

Anyways

Edo Minato>Edo Itachi>Alive Itachi>Minato

Who is ext. overrated lol

Just like the flaming illusion of torture affected Kakashi after Kakashi's clone dispersed right? If anything, the overrated one here is Itachi

Getting praised everyone was praised itachi has been praised more by ninja of higher value

Don't make me laugh. The number of hype you showed can't even compared to Minato's. In fact the number of Minato hype he has received throughout the manga(since the begin) is almost limitless from fodders, to top tiers going through Kishimoto himself, to the point that if i were to show you, i'm pretty sure it would take me forever.

But i'm not gonna show you it even if i wanted because we're not on a hype thread here and i don't really like the way it's going. Instead of paralleled feats that i find irrelevant because the context change depending on situations(the purpose of my previous posts), i rather prefer direct confrontations in different areas. So if you really want to discuss about it, i only advice you to talk the difference in their abilities and how it could help in a probable fight between the 2

 

[Prince Charles]

Just like the flaming illusion of torture affected Kakashi after Kakashi's clone dispersed right? If anything, the overrated one here is Itachi

Don't make me laugh. The number of hype you showed can't even compared to Minato's. In fact the number of Minato hype he has received throughout the manga(since the begin) is almost limitless from fodders, to top tiers going through Kishimoto himself, to the point that if i were to show you, i'm pretty sure it would take me forever.

But i'm not gonna show you it even if i wanted because we're not on a hype thread here and i don't really like the way it's going. Instead of paralleled feats that i find irrelevant because the context change depending on situations(the purpose of my previous posts), i rather prefer direct confrontations in different areas. So if you really want to discuss about it, i only advice you to talk the difference in their abilities and how it could help in a probable fight between the 2

Lol I see your fanboying ways still cloud your judgement.

 

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What people think of Naruto: Naruto has surpassed Minato

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What Madara thinks about the combined team of Naruto, Killer Bee, Kakashi, and Gai: A half-ass band of ninja.

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Madara is Black Zetsu

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What Madara thinks of Itachi: He's completely invincible.

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What Madara thinks of Hashirama: He is the ultimate shinobi.

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What Hashirama thinks of Itachi:

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[Universal Enlightenment]

Just like the flaming illusion of torture affected Kakashi after Kakashi's clone dispersed right? If anything, the overrated one here is Itachi

Don't make me laugh. The number of hype you showed can't even compared to Minato's. In fact the number of Minato hype he has received throughout the manga(since the begin) is almost limitless from fodders, to top tiers going through Kishimoto himself, to the point that if i were to show you, i'm pretty sure it would take me forever.

But i'm not gonna show you it even if i wanted because we're not on a hype thread here and i don't really like the way it's going. Instead of paralleled feats that i find irrelevant because the context change depending on situations(the purpose of my previous posts), i rather prefer direct confrontations in different areas. So if you really want to discuss about it, i only advice you to talk the difference in their abilities and how it could help in a probable fight between the 2

So now showing paralleled feature is irrelevant so how else would you compare on how skilled someone is at something if not put in similar or the same situations? Did you really just say you prefer confrontations in different areas instead LMAO? Showing same situation is usually the best way of showing what level someone is at you cant tell someone go count the amount of apple on a tree then have someone take a math test then compare intelligence on the subject how the hell would that work?


Now with the hype i was showing on the 1st part of my post on the intellect and wisdom that hiruzen said Itachi had I wasn't going by hype you came in here with it all I did was match it ? You claim the number of I brought in was laughable but you brought in less then I have you did worst then I did you so how does that work wouldnt that be something like dissing yourself? I find it funny how you claimed Killer B was giving Itachi the works but l still havent seen one page of killer b landing one hit i'm waiting ?

 

[grizzlyshree]

BM Minato>KMMinato>Edo itachi>Alive Minato>Alive itachi

 

[pateuvasiliu]

BM Minato>>>>KMMinato>>>Edo itachi>Alive Minato>Alive itachi

Fixed it for you.

 

[Bogard]

So now showing paralleled feature is irrelevant so how else would you compare on how skilled someone is at something if not put in similar or the same situations? Did you really just say you prefer confrontations in different areas instead LMAO? Showing same situation is usually the best way of showing what level someone is at you cant tell someone go count the amount of apple on a tree then have someone take a math test then compare intelligence on the subject how the hell would that work?

Reasons why paralleled features you mentioned are irrelevant

1- The context are different like i've stated. In Itachi's case, Naruto for example was only there for a talk. Itachi on the other side was controlled by Kabuto, being controlled by Kabuto wanting Jinchurikis that badly, he was obviously going all out. In Minato's case, A and Bee were forcefully trying to defeat him.

Minato was also trying to defeat his opponents at first, before starting taking a liking on them and refusing to fight a fight where he already got the advantage(see previous post about their confrontation). Minato only counter-attacked later because A didn't want to let him go and proceeded to want to threaten them instead of fighting seriously(i already explained all that in my previous post). These are the reasons that the element of comparison you gave between the 2fights are irrelevant because not only the contexts are totally different, but the mindset as well

Now with the hype i was showing on the 1st part of my post on the intellect and wisdom that hiruzen said Itachi had I wasn't going by hype you came in here with it all I did was match it ? You claim the number of I brought in was laughable but you brought in less then I have you did worst then I did you so how does that work wouldnt that be something like dissing yourself? I find it funny how you claimed Killer B was giving Itachi the works but l still havent seen one page of killer b landing one hit i'm waiting ?

Like i've said, the reason why i didn't want to show more is because i don't want to turn this thread into a hype thread or ridiculous claims not even taking into consideration the context like what Fizz mentioned would happen. Or even unexisting hype only to favourite his favourite like the one you mentioned concerning Tobirama for example. Can you tell me where he hyped him?

Itachi is intelligent? That's fine, but intelligence hype has practically no value to determine who is the stronger of the 2. I'd rather prefer a strenght comparison hype. Minato is also known to be a genius never seen before according to Jiraya for example(so including Itachi), but it's not the determine factor in a fight. These are the reasons why i believe using it has no importance in this thread as well. I could talk you about people like Jiraya, A or Kakashi who all claimed he was unsurpassable, Kishimoto himself claiming he had an unrivalled strength and so on, but like i've said, turning it into a hype thread? I don't see the thread

A page where Bee is landing a hit on Itachi? There is none and you know it as well, but because he didn't land a hit on him, doesn't change the fact he was dominating him, reason why noticing how pushed back he was, he was intelligent enough to flee and hide away from him by jumping over Nagato's summon. It simply means fighting smartly. There is no reason to continue a fight where you see your inferiority in a category

 

[Zexion~]

Just like the flaming illusion of torture affected Kakashi after Kakashi's clone dispersed right? If anything, the overrated one here is Itachi

No, just like how Naruto knew exactly What Itachi said to his clone in that Genjutsu :|

Minato=Overrated

 

[pateuvasiliu]

No, just like how Naruto knew exactly What Itachi said to his clone in that Genjutsu :|

Minato=Overrated

Minato still solos, getmad.

 

[Zexion~]

Minato still solos, getmad.

, Why would i get mad? Your only proving my point


Itachi>Minato

 

[Bogard]

No, just like how Naruto knew exactly What Itachi said to his clone in that Genjutsu :|

Minato=Overrated

Once again, it was the original, or else he wouldn't have a crow inside his body. Itachi is the overrated one, inferior to Jiraya according to the manga, weak compared to Obito, could barely use 3MS techniques, yet people overrate his stamina and his abilities

 

[Owarij]

Dusk crow genjutsu, followed by slitting his throat.