Bm Minato vs Sm Hashirama

Who would win

  • Minato

    Votes: 14 51.9%
  • Hashirama

    Votes: 13 48.1%

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Hashirama wins. Flower Tree World =D
 

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the manga showed it as no bigger than the juubi itself after it was fired. all this means is that the ball was compressed. i dont know why you are being dishonest.

At that angle it looked that size, from multiple other angles it's clearly bigger. What's so difficult to understand here?

nobody ever talked about the V2 juubidama.

too bad i never talked about the V2 juubidama.
even so, VOTE is much deeper than what was left after the juubidama.

I wasn't clear with the V2 Juubi dama picture. I was actually reffering to the damage shown by the laser.

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Hashirama wins. Flower Tree World =D

I don't know why people think this technique is unstoppable.
 
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1. He has the ability to go anywhere through the land ..... Ftg Marks can sensed.


2. Your making it sound like Hashirama is a lil chump here, and Minato is the experienced pro..

3. Hashrama's bro is a FTG user, so he should know how to deal with that.

4. BM for Minato has only been where the 9-tails is fully out.. and with that Hashirama can bind him with the wood dragon.

5. We also have Bringer of Darkness

6. It all depends on the scenario, in any amount Hashirama won't probably need his Sage Mode.
 

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At that angle it looked that size, from multiple other angles it's clearly bigger. What's so difficult to understand here?
no, its not the angle. the actual trail that the juubidama was leaving behind is slightly wider than the juubis body.
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and as you can see, the juubidama is smaller than the trail being left behind.

I wasn't clear with the V2 Juubi dama picture. I was actually reffering to the damage shown by the laser.

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whats your point? VOTE is much deeper than the deppression left by the laser.
 

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no, its not the angle. the actual trail that the juubidama was leaving behind is slightly wider than the juubis body.
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and as you can see, the juubidama is smaller than the trail being left behind.

You can't even see the trail properly with all the dust. Multiple pictures show otherwise. The Juubi alone is around the same size as shinsuusenju anyway.

whats your point? VOTE is much deeper than the deppression left by the laser.

Jesus christ are you stupid? It's not about how deep it is because it wasn't even goinginto the ground, Ino moved it to miss Naruto and co. Mountain range > Valley, there's nothing difficult here.

1. He has the ability to go anywhere through the land ..... Ftg Marks can sensed.


2. Your making it sound like Hashirama is a lil chump here, and Minato is the experienced pro..

3. Hashrama's bro is a FTG user, so he should know how to deal with that.

4. BM for Minato has only been where the 9-tails is fully out.. and with that Hashirama can bind him with the wood dragon.

5. We also have Bringer of Darkness

6. It all depends on the scenario, in any amount Hashirama won't probably need his Sage Mode.

1. Zetsu's ability.
2. No i'm not.
3. Show some feats.
4. Wood dragon has been countered on more than one occasion in the manga and Minato can just teleport out.
5. Short range, perfect jin, easy to deal with.
 
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You can't even see the trail properly with all the dust. Multiple pictures show otherwise. The Juubi alone is around the same size as shinsuusenju anyway.



Jesus christ are you stupid? It's not about how deep it is because it wasn't even goinginto the ground, Ino moved it to miss Naruto and co. Mountain range > Valley, there's nothing difficult here.
Not in Naruto-verse he isn't. Probably in Midday-verse.
 

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Not in Naruto-verse he isn't. Probably in Midday-verse.
Your joke was weak.

The Juubi's hand is big enough to pick up a tailed beast just like shinsuusenju.



Hashirama's statue to the 9 tails.

The Juubi is in the same size range as sinsuusenju.
 

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Your joke was weak.

The Juubi's hand is big enough to pick up a tailed beast just like shinsuusenju.



The Juubi is in the same size range as sinsuusenju.

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The juubi is not even big as the mountains...... lmao.

Yet your comparing it to something that towers over mountains.....
 

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reread what i said.. Your comparing something is not even bigger then a mountain to something that towers over mountains....

I read it clearly. You're under the assumption that that mountain range = this mountain range. By your logic the kyuubi's bigger than the Juubi.
 

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It's not that type of thread where I go through both characters abilities. It's just a simple vs thread and people hopefully give their reasons on why they think 'X' wins.

Yea I realised :/

OT: I want to say hashi wins, but i want to say minato wins. Most importantly, I want to say I don't know who wins. FTG really turns this match around a bit... It's pretty much BM naruto with FTG, S/T Barrier(use less here), and the ability to get random BM clones to teleport him to them. mmmh... :/

I really do think Hashi probably does have this fight... His abilities to sub out with Mokubushin, travel through the ground and spring Mokuton at your feet is as much a game changer as FTG is. Infact, it's probably more OP than the FTG thing seeing as you're not safe standing anywhere...
 

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You can't even see the trail properly with all the dust. Multiple pictures show otherwise. The Juubi alone is around the same size as shinsuusenju anyway.
no, you can see the trail perfectly. you are just being dishonest.

the juubi isnt close to shinsuusenjus size. the juubi can already be scaled from this picture.
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the ten dots in the middle of the barrier are hashiramas gates. they were holding down the juubi. they are small compared to the mokujin and PS which are on the right side of the barrier. the juubi isnt even close to shinsuusenju.


Jesus christ are you stupid? It's not about how deep it is because it wasn't even goinginto the ground, Ino moved it to miss Naruto and co. Mountain range > Valley, there's nothing difficult here.
you proved nothing. it was aimed at the ground otherwise it wouldnt have been able to hit naruto and co. ino merely changed the direction that it was fired. she merely shifted obitos aim to the right. the blast was still aimed at the ground.
 
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I read it clearly. You're under the assumption that that mountain range = this mountain range. By your logic the kyuubi's bigger than the Juubi.

Look at the scan you yourself posted, The human wood dragon and Perfect susanoo are taller then the juubi. Look at the gates that were holding down the juubi...
 

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Lol at people acting like Hashirama winning is a given! Anyone forgetting that Minato's FTG can get him out of tight spots and that Flower tree world can be easily be destroyed by a TBB?
 

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no, its not the angle. the actual trail that the juubidama was leaving behind is slightly wider than the juubis body.
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and as you can see, the juubidama is smaller than the trail being left behind.


whats your point? VOTE is much deeper than the deppression left by the laser.



There's a huge difference between VOTE and the depression from the juubi laser. The buddah statue focused directly on the ground, it received all the force it had to offer. The trench from the Juubi laser was just the laser barely scraping the ground. The ground only received a tiny fraction of the laser's force. To get an estimate, look how the laser cut through the mountains with ease.

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If that were hitting the ground downwards like the buddah statue, it wouldn't make a valley. It'd make a huge hole way deeper!
 

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You are aware guys that there is no such thing as BM Minato, right? There's only BM EDO Minato, who is actually a toy summon of Orochimaru.
How can such threads even exist, ehh.

It's a hypothetical scenario.

There is no Minato vs Hashirama since both are dead, but we still create such threads.
 

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no, you can see the trail perfectly. you are just being dishonest.
the juubi isnt close to shinsuusenjus size. the juubi can already be scaled from this picture.
the ten dots in the middle of the barrier are hashiramas gates. they were holding down the juubi. they are small compared to the mokujin and PS which are on the right side of the barrier. the juubi isnt even close to shinsuusenju.

Actually the Juubi is close to the size to Shinsuusenju.
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Look at the size of the Hachibi compared to the Juubi's finger. 50% Kurama is equal to the Hachibi in size. Obviously 100% Kurama would be around 2x the size of 50% Kurama.

Now compare that to this scan.
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After thinking about it and reading some of these post I do believe that Minato will push Hashi to high difficulty. The only problem for Minato is that his BM doesn't last forever. Once BM has ended/the cloak is gone he's done for.
 
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