how did sage manage to empty the juubi 's chakra vessel? An asspull?

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kunde

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which is infinite at final form?

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I guess the remaining was still inside the Mazo (Juubi's body) that's why he was still powerful without any bijuus inside. But only need someone to use his powers in exchange of the users life energy.
 

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I guess the remaining was still inside the Mazo (Juubi's body) that's why he was still powerful without any bijuus inside. But only need someone to use his powers in exchange of the users life energy.

this^^^^ i guess but not for sure... i am also confused
 

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I guess the remaining was still inside the Mazo (Juubi's body) that's why he was still powerful without any bijuus inside. But only need someone to use his powers in exchange of the users life energy.

But it's clearly stated that sage used yin-yang release and fully divided it b/w TB's. . and hurled the the body in moon . .so it still doesn't explain how can someone empty something which is infinite. .
 

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But it's clearly stated that sage used yin-yang release and fully divided it b/w TB's. . and hurled the the body in moon . .so it still doesn't explain how can someone empty something which is infinite. .

Then the only explanation would be that Naruto didn't managed to see the limits of Juubi's chakra.
He was amazed at Kyuubi when Kyuubi formed a massive BD even after his chakra reserves were tamed by Naruto.
Then that explains why he couldn't know the limits of the chakra of all the Nine Bijuus' chakra in one being while sensing it with sage mode. Naruto couldn't reach the other end of the thread.
 

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But it's clearly stated that sage used yin-yang release and fully divided it b/w TB's. . and hurled the the body in moon . .so it still doesn't explain how can someone empty something which is infinite. .

INFINITE in Narutoverse= EDO TENSEI chakra. example
ALIVE MADARA has 9 chakra bars. EDO MADARA has 9 chakra bars , BUT they rapidly recharge over and over instantly.
or automatically.
Complete Juubi Infinite chakra is 20 bars and it keeps building up. Sage grabs it at 20 chakra bars and splits it
sort of like a seal that stops everything's growth. (RDS soul chakra/Totsuka stops movement?)

Basically the Juubi's chakra is like Nature energy keeps being absorbed from an infinite source or keeps being recycled and the Sage caught it right before it was recycled again. :]
 

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Then the only explanation would be that Naruto didn't managed to see the limits of Juubi's chakra.
He was amazed at Kyuubi when Kyuubi formed a massive BD even after his chakra reserves were tamed by Naruto.
Then that explains why he couldn't know the limits of the chakra of all the Nine Bijuus' chakra in one being while sensing it with sage mode. Naruto couldn't reach the other end of the thread.

u complicated it further :nuts: :nuts:

ok now i'll go with hypothesis . .maybe even Juubi has limits which sage was aware of . .maybe sage had much more stronger chakra than juubi which explains how he defeated final form of juubi atleast . .now i dont agree that sage used rinnegan powers to defeat it . .because juubi has eyes that resembles rinnegan and sharingan combined. .and it's stated that juubi is the progenitor of everything that exists . .so in conclusion sage defeated juubi with some unknown jutsu of his own and caged it and obtained rinnegan and divided juubi using Yin-yang release which is a rinnegan technique. .

thoughts?
 
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INFINITE in Narutoverse= EDO TENSEI chakra. example
ALIVE MADARA has 9 chakra bars. EDO MADARA has 9 chakra bars , BUT they rapidly recharge over and over instantly.
or automatically.
Complete Juubi Infinite chakra is 20 bars and it keeps building up. Sage grabs it at 20 chakra bars and splits it
sort of like a seal that stops everything's growth. (RDS soul chakra/Totsuka stops movement?)

Basically the Juubi's chakra is like Nature energy keeps being absorbed from an infinite source or keeps being recycled and the Sage caught it right before it was recycled again. :]

How did sage managed to stop juubi from absorbing nature energy any further? . .wait o_O . . i think yes. .one more hypothesis from me . .
mokuton restrains bijuu's chakra . .could it be that sage had Mokuton powerful enough to defeat juubi o_O?
 

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u complicated it further :nuts: :nuts:

ok now i'll go with hypothesis . .maybe even Juubi has limits which sage was aware of . .maybe sage had much more stronger chakra than juubi which explains how he defeated final form of juubi atleast . .now i dont agree that sage used rinnegan powers to defeat it . .because juubi has eyes that resembles rinnegan and sharingan combined. .and it's stated that juubi is the progenitor of everything that exists . .so in conclusion sage defeated juubi with some unknown jutsu of his own and caged it and obtained rinnegan and divided juubi using Yin-yang release which is a rinnegan technique. .

thoughts?

That weapon would be sage chakra/nature energy.
Juubi is a physical vessel for Nature energy and there has to be a limit to the vessel. As said, energy in the whole universe is constant. As the vessel gets harmed, it is healed again by the nature energy. Sage must have found that weakness and blocked Juubi from absorbing more nature energy.
 

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How did sage managed to stop juubi from absorbing nature energy any further? . .wait o_O . . i think yes. .one more hypothesis from me . .
mokuton restrains bijuu's chakra . .could it be that sage had Mokuton powerful enough to defeat juubi o_O?

well that makes sense. ^_^ mokuton IS nature and it uses oxygen and stuff to continue to function so with Juubi being natural energy it competes with mokuton for nature energy and one takes more than the other. <.< @_@ idk.. still...
Hashirama had to get his mokuton from somewhere I guess. :heh:
 

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That weapon would be sage chakra/nature energy.
Juubi is a physical vessel for Nature energy and there has to be a limit to the vessel. As said, energy in the whole universe is constant. As the vessel gets harmed, it is healed again by the nature energy. Sage must have found that weakness and blocked Juubi from absorbing more nature energy.

I have a feeling 'that' weapon maybe the MOKUTON jutsu . .i dont see any other jutsu or chakra which could restrain the absorption of chakra . .yeah there is byakugan but i have a feeling it is not powerful enough like mokuton. .so i'll go with Mokuton . .it's possible. . sage is the progenitor of senju and uchiha and younger son possessed sage's body which may be directly inherited by Hashirama senju . .So mokuton must have played a key role in defeating juubi
 

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well that makes sense. ^_^ mokuton IS nature and it uses oxygen and stuff to continue to function so with Juubi being natural energy it competes with mokuton for nature energy and one takes more than the other. <.< @_@ idk.. still...
Hashirama had to get his mokuton from somewhere I guess. :heh:

Foxy agrees :bouncy:
and foxy hashi has both earth and water elements . .combination of which results in MOKUTON :heh:
 

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Juubi was said to have NEAR infinite chakra, not infinite chakra itself :bouncy:
 

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I have a feeling 'that' weapon maybe the MOKUTON jutsu . .i dont see any other jutsu or chakra which could restrain the absorption of chakra . .yeah there is byakugan but i have a feeling it is not powerful enough like mokuton. .so i'll go with Mokuton . .it's possible. . sage is the progenitor of senju and uchiha and younger son possessed sage's body which may be directly inherited by Hashirama senju . .So mokuton must have played a key role in defeating juubi

That means
Restrain Juubi => Mokuton (ultimate)
Fight Juubi => Sage mode (ultimate)
 

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so because you dont know something makes it an ass pull? my god grow up
 

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That means
Restrain Juubi => Mokuton (ultimate)
Fight Juubi => Sage mode (ultimate)

What does that mean? . .i didnt understand the context :sweat:
 

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well it seems you know everything. . enlighten me ^-^

i dont know everything but im not so impatient to call something an ass pull just because i dont understand something. kishi will explain how things work when the time is right
 

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i dont know everything but im not so impatient to call something an ass pull just because i dont understand something. kishi will explain how things work when the time is right

Please read the discussion that happened above . .we tried to figure it out how atleast. .else
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