nobody says it ...
Events goes too fast that if we don't meditate quietly, we can be been overtaken by events.We passed from the egyptian massacre of Sisi's troops and its Saoudi financer to sarin gas used on civilians syrian at Al-Ruta which according to many sources caused 1500 death of which 500 children.
What i'm about to say is my personal view to understand what's going on which is very more complicated than what politics,random people,bloggers says.
To understand, we need to make the effort to come back to the major event of this millenar which is the 11/9/2001.
Further to this attentat, we had the war in Afghanistan and now in 2013 the dominants Arab tyrants like Saddam Hussein who has been deloged easily then there are all the continuation Tunisia,Lybia, Egypt,Syria etc..
Notice that it's only the country near the Sham (Syrian Region) which been touched by this agitation.In contrary countries like Algeria,Morroco nothing happended or very few.
So what exactly happened (it's very comprehenssible if we put ourself in the place of USA).
What happened after the 11/9?
The psychologists, investigators,specialists reunited after 11/9 and analized this event .They saw that 19 young postgraduate student have succeeded to touch the first superpower of the world.The debat obviously isn't here to discuss whether it's true or false, cospiracy or no. Anyway it's doesn't change anything the result is the same.They said to themself, the arabic youth is cultivated,alphabietzied,have access to internet,organized and commit attentats that have serious consequence and that is destined to be more threatening and dangerous.
What will we ( USA)do? It's the question i'd ask myself if there is an attentat on my territory made by 19 persons comming from a religion enemie to my system.
So they understood that times has changed, that we can't park the arabs such as beast anymore walking like puppets under the orders of a tyrant completly degenerated such as Moubarak, Ben Ali and Ghadafi etc...They became western's puppets which we even invited untill 2007-2008 like for exemple Ghadafi-Sarkozy.
We said to ourself that it's not possible anymore, we must live with our time and absolutely accompany the arab world in a democratic revolution which will have as leaders, some party of the friends goverments which will be freely choosen by people.
In such a way that deactivate this hate and rage against the tyrants, misery ,joblessness and injustices etc..
We(USA) must absolutly democratize the arabic world of course by installing some political partner parties.
I think it's very important to understand it because if you didn't understand it, you won't understand all the rest...
So obviously everybody got surprised, until few month ago mubarak, Ben Ali, Ghadafi ,Sadam, Bashar etc... was some personwhich we traited with and invited in our leadership Salon,made contrats etc...What's happend that all of a sudden we support the Syrian rebels,the Turnisa revolutions, we support theorically the syrian rebellions.It simply happend that the establishment decided that it was the time to deactivate the growing islam and install some system which looks like the occident ( democatic system).Of course as soon as it remains some commercial partnership which with we can treat so finally it's good, the arabs will have "modernity",will be less revolted and we keep our interrest everybody is happy...
This is point, the objectif it's the deactivate of the growing islam who declared mondially the war to the world's capitalist/imperialist empire.So we finished with Ben Ali, Ghadifi etc.. And we dind't finish with Bachar so what's going on?
It's very simple, it's very important to understand Mubarek clearly has been finished i laugh at this because seriousely i say to myself it's totally crazy, how an isolated person without any renomed as me is more or less the only one who say it.
You saw with the manifestation of muslim brotherood in streets that when we want sabotage a revolution or make a coup d'etat we simply shoot on the mass so people go home and all come back to normal.They made thousands of death among the muslim brotherhoods and nobody didn't care, in contratry they passed as the bad terrorists,they was a danger for the sovereignty of Egypt .
So when you see this, it doesn't require to be a genius to understand that when the population was in streets at place Tharir in the time of Mubarak, they could do exactly same ,shoot on mass and all go home etc.. BUT it wasn't the case...People were on place Tahrir , laughed ,put flowers on hair, "hey it's us the arabs of facebook !", you see it was the fresh revolution with the soldiers we applauded etc...
Because it was a revolution that was not stopped but accompagned and framed.Why?Simply because the Usa and it's Allies had PRE-AGREEMENT with the muslim brotherhood, they had PRE-AGREEMENT on a serie of points concerning the help to egyptians soldiers,Isreal,Gaza,islam etc..They were agree on these points so they could replace Mubarak at t he condition that they choose member of muslim brotherhood who is not too "hard",not much loved,not much followed so they choosed a fodder functionary who was Mohamed Morsi, again it passed as a postal letter.They prevented the charismatic cadre who was fordiden to be present because of the origins of his mother...So the muslim brotherhood has been put in power in egypt with the approbation of USA.Then it has been followed by disagreement, i think the muslim brothehood started to get close with China, Russia,Iran ,Morsi was invited in Iran etc...USA has been a bit fooled by muslims bortherhood so when they saw it they told to morsi to go, clean me all this, no question to play this game with a country that is near Isreal, these muslim brotherhood are not trustable.
In Lybia's case it's almost the same thing, there was all the politician of Bengazi who was more tribalist and nationalists than anything else, more linked to their root berbere rather than islam.They encouraged, armed with the benediction of Bernard Henri Levy etc..And while waitind the Lybia is in great chaos and we don't speak about it, the oil is always sent under "good hands" so everybody is happy...But voila, for the international's opinion it became a democracy, people can vote so voila we made the liberty to Arabs...
Tunisia same story...Annahda will without a doubt subit the same end as egyptians muslims brotherhood because one of the
characteristic of the muslims brotehrhood is that they surf on all the waves, conclusion at a moment given, nobody is happy , the islamists as Ansar al charia or jama islamiya abandoned the muslim brotherhood, the seculars who don't trust them.
Finnaly these so called muslim party end up wiyj a lot of enemies (islamists or secular) because nobody love the half measure. We are in a totalitarian world, as Bush said "you are with us or agaisnt us".The half measure doesn't pay we saw it in Algeria (FIS)Palestin (hamas), Tunisia( Ennahda) it goes nowhere.It's a lost of time,lifes, money and finally if you're are not the good puppy of the FMI and USA you'll find yourself in jail acused of terrorism.
Now the case of Syria is a bit more complex and it's because it' s more complex that the affair solve much slower.
In this case there is a big nails in shoe which make that we don't dare to go as in Lybia , Egypt or somewhere else.
It's that there is a presence in the rebels, a minoritary of 10% to 20% of rebels who are what we call " islamists" divised in many groups who want clearly the etablissement of an islamic state in Syria which obviously doesn't please to american project that their goal is to built a democratico-suni shield to protect their interrests.
So yeah we would like dislodge the tyrants but it's not to have a governement in which the
interlocutor fom the other side who will tells us what to do.So in Syria we are in a strange brush since 3 years in which we says Bachar is not good but we can't really help because it can help the islamists so everybody go round and round in circles so everybody watch the spectacle.
Comes the chemical incident who can be sponsorized by "i don't know who" but it's not important what's important is the meaning .It appears clearly now that the USA with France and maybe GB if they change their opinion will intervene in Syria in the nearly days by hit cibled targets.
What's the goal of all this?What's going on? Because again it makes me laugh
When people are gased, in general we gas the rats and bugs not humans... Everybody are agitated BUT when they are shredded,burried alive in their house, jump on mines so here yes it's normal...
Apparently dying from gas inhalation is more serious than dying shredded into kofta ok, i accept since this is the new standard.
So we must intervene all of a sudden..
What are the reasons of the motivation of the American intervention? Again it's an hypothese but after thought a lot , Usa want finish with Bachar but they want prevent that Bachar is finished by something else than themself or the troops of democratic rebels that form 50 to 60% of rebels because if it was the case it would be a very bad signal sent to arab world to say that this big taghout Bachar (transgressor) has not been finished by democracy and US bombs but by the black flags ( those who fight for islamic states).
So they absolutaly want to prevent this which would be very bad marketing for democracy.Bachar must be finished from the West or from the democrats but certainly not from the islamists.The islamists must be shown as the failure, negative and barbarians and the goods, the nices are the USA and the democrats.
It's the reasons why USA want take things in control because this war have last long enough and it became disturbingto see the amplitude and scale that the djihadists troops are occuped to takes in Syria. USA want take the control and take down Bachar.So to me it's the appropriation of the end of Bachar.It's not about to do inderectly war to Iran, China and Russia.
It's simply to say the democracy make fall down the tyrant, the liberty is given to arab world but they are free to become as WE want they become.
So when we think that it's the muslim brotherhood we help them, if we see that it's not them because they don't obey as planed,we kick them out and put somoene else who we will make you love them in medias, tv etc.
Everybody knows that in a country where a president is democratically elected if he's demote in one night , it's a coup d'etat.But they didn't call it coup d'etat because if it was the case they'd have to stop the helps to Egypt and they can't permit to have this puppets army as enemies since they assure the protection of Isreal in Egypt.
So we are far from the silly scenario we hear like " the salafi djihadi are CIA agent" etc...
These people didn't understand anything ,they don't listen and visualize the speeches,texts and doctrines disseminated by these groups.If they'd search they'd it's very coherent and Islamically it's based on solid sources and that' they are not hollywood actors who are occuped to do this.But all is good to say that the empire is the great evil and that the great good is in the other side in our "friend" (Russian,China,Iran).These people who are vector wonderful values etc... (irony)
For muslims :
Democracy is incompatible with Islam, muslim must not be accomplice of this fraud established by the enemies of islam (capitalists,imperialists) and that the muslims doesn't have 36 choices.Either the patience, the predication or the confrontation/fight but confrontation/fight according to islamic rules and to join the brothers and sisters of Tâifa al Mansoûra (the rescued party) who are disseminate in the world.That's the way to have results, we see it in Afghanistan.But starting to bring with yourself some civilians who become widower,orphan,hurt,paralyzed because we ask them to go unarmed and cofront militaries to be shoot on is stupid.It's not because i have pity of the muslims's death in streets at Cairo that i must not criticize the strategy and method of muslim brotherhood that is very bad for the futur of islam.
To conclude :
We will have targeted hit on syria and i don't see other explanations to have the goal to appropriate the victory on Bachar and to not let this tittle for the "islamists" which would be a very bad advertising.it's without a doubt their Motivations to intervene.According to their reference and satellites the rebels are growing more and more peoples come from the foreign and progressing and it becomes worrying to see that Bachar loosing will revenge on it's own population so the love for the mujahideen will increase, the hate of Bachar will increase so Usa decided to intervene, Usa want show that they "care" about the arabs because they don't want that all these hearts go to those who fight for an islamic state.However what is more important for muslims is to understand that this war is the premise of the great confrontation against the Imam Mahdi and the 80 banners of the allied troops and that we are spectator in the forefront of the most important events that happened since the beginning of Islam, the responsability is enormous, self-questionning is enourmous and have the responsability and test to make face to this big challenge that is Inchallah the coming of the Imam Mahdi after the death of the Saoudi King very soon.
I'm sorry to say that all of what you written here is crap. Assad's party is the worst thing that came to Syria. No progress touched the country for a long time because they've been looting the country's wealth and keeping it to the party and to the Alawis. Iran is backing up Syria because they have a presence in the country. Iran also is the cause of many of the problems that've been happening in Bahrain lately like the recent bombings. They want to control the middle east and are making problems in every country they can.
I really hope the current "Syrian" government falls.
Events goes too fast that if we don't meditate quietly, we can be been overtaken by events.We passed from the egyptian massacre of Sisi's troops and its Saoudi financer to sarin gas used on civilians syrian at Al-Ruta which according to many sources caused 1500 death of which 500 children.
What i'm about to say is my personal view to understand what's going on which is very more complicated than what politics,random people,bloggers says.
To understand, we need to make the effort to come back to the major event of this millenar which is the 11/9/2001.
Further to this attentat, we had the war in Afghanistan and now in 2013 the dominants Arab tyrants like Saddam Hussein who has been deloged easily then there are all the continuation Tunisia,Lybia, Egypt,Syria etc..
Notice that it's only the country near the Sham (Syrian Region) which been touched by this agitation.In contrary countries like Algeria,Morroco nothing happended or very few.
So what exactly happened (it's very comprehenssible if we put ourself in the place of USA).
What happened after the 11/9?
The psychologists, investigators,specialists reunited after 11/9 and analized this event .They saw that 19 young postgraduate student have succeeded to touch the first superpower of the world.The debat obviously isn't here to discuss whether it's true or false, cospiracy or no. Anyway it's doesn't change anything the result is the same.They said to themself, the arabic youth is cultivated,alphabietzied,have access to internet,organized and commit attentats that have serious consequence and that is destined to be more threatening and dangerous.
What will we ( USA)do? It's the question i'd ask myself if there is an attentat on my territory made by 19 persons comming from a religion enemie to my system.
So they understood that times has changed, that we can't park the arabs such as beast anymore walking like puppets under the orders of a tyrant completly degenerated such as Moubarak, Ben Ali and Ghadafi etc...They became western's puppets which we even invited untill 2007-2008 like for exemple Ghadafi-Sarkozy.
We said to ourself that it's not possible anymore, we must live with our time and absolutely accompany the arab world in a democratic revolution which will have as leaders, some party of the friends goverments which will be freely choosen by people.
In such a way that deactivate this hate and rage against the tyrants, misery ,joblessness and injustices etc..
We(USA) must absolutly democratize the arabic world of course by installing some political partner parties.
I think it's very important to understand it because if you didn't understand it, you won't understand all the rest...
So obviously everybody got surprised, until few month ago mubarak, Ben Ali, Ghadafi ,Sadam, Bashar etc... was some personwhich we traited with and invited in our leadership Salon,made contrats etc...What's happend that all of a sudden we support the Syrian rebels,the Turnisa revolutions, we support theorically the syrian rebellions.It simply happend that the establishment decided that it was the time to deactivate the growing islam and install some system which looks like the occident ( democatic system).Of course as soon as it remains some commercial partnership which with we can treat so finally it's good, the arabs will have "modernity",will be less revolted and we keep our interrest everybody is happy...
This is point, the objectif it's the deactivate of the growing islam who declared mondially the war to the world's capitalist/imperialist empire.So we finished with Ben Ali, Ghadifi etc.. And we dind't finish with Bachar so what's going on?
It's very simple, it's very important to understand Mubarek clearly has been finished i laugh at this because seriousely i say to myself it's totally crazy, how an isolated person without any renomed as me is more or less the only one who say it.
You saw with the manifestation of muslim brotherood in streets that when we want sabotage a revolution or make a coup d'etat we simply shoot on the mass so people go home and all come back to normal.They made thousands of death among the muslim brotherhoods and nobody didn't care, in contratry they passed as the bad terrorists,they was a danger for the sovereignty of Egypt .
So when you see this, it doesn't require to be a genius to understand that when the population was in streets at place Tharir in the time of Mubarak, they could do exactly same ,shoot on mass and all go home etc.. BUT it wasn't the case...People were on place Tahrir , laughed ,put flowers on hair, "hey it's us the arabs of facebook !", you see it was the fresh revolution with the soldiers we applauded etc...
Because it was a revolution that was not stopped but accompagned and framed.Why?Simply because the Usa and it's Allies had PRE-AGREEMENT with the muslim brotherhood, they had PRE-AGREEMENT on a serie of points concerning the help to egyptians soldiers,Isreal,Gaza,islam etc..They were agree on these points so they could replace Mubarak at t he condition that they choose member of muslim brotherhood who is not too "hard",not much loved,not much followed so they choosed a fodder functionary who was Mohamed Morsi, again it passed as a postal letter.They prevented the charismatic cadre who was fordiden to be present because of the origins of his mother...So the muslim brotherhood has been put in power in egypt with the approbation of USA.Then it has been followed by disagreement, i think the muslim brothehood started to get close with China, Russia,Iran ,Morsi was invited in Iran etc...USA has been a bit fooled by muslims bortherhoodbuy so when they saw it they told to morsi to go, clean me all this, no question to play this game with a country that is near Isreal, these muslim brotherhood are not trustable.
In Lybia's case it's almost the same thing, there was all the politician of Bengazi who was more tribalist and nationalists than anything else, more linked to their root berbere rather than islam.They encouraged, armed with the benediction of Bernard Henri Levy etc..And while waitind the Lybia is in great chaos and we don't speak about it, the oil is always sent under "good hands" so everybody is happy...But voila, for the international's opinion it became a democracy, people can vote so voila we made the liberty to Arabs...
Tunisia same story...Annahda will without a doubt subit the same end as egyptians muslims brotherhood because one of the
characteristic of the muslims brotehrhood is that they surf on all the waves, conclusion at a moment given, nobody is happy , the islamists as Ansar al charia or jama islamiya abandoned the muslim brotherhood, the seculars who don't trust them.
Finnaly these so called muslim party end up wiyj a lot of enemies (islamists or secular) because nobody love the half measure. We are in a totalitarian world, as Bush said "you are with us or agaisnt us".The half measure doesn't pay we saw it in Algeria (FIS)Palestin (hamas), Tunisia( Ennahda) it goes nowhere.It's a lost of time,lifes, money and finally if you're are not the good puppy of the FMI and USA you'll find yourself in jail acused of terrorism.
Now the case of Syria is a bit more complex and it's because it' s more complex that the affair solve much slower.
In this case there is a big nails in shoe which make that we don't dare to go as in Lybia , Egypt or somewhere else.
It's that there is a presence in the rebels, a minoritary of 10% to 20% of rebels who are what we call " islamists" divised in many groups who want clearly the etablissement of an islamic state in Syria which obviously doesn't please to american project that their goal is to built a democratico-suni shield to protect their interrests.
So yeah we would like dislodge the tyrants but it's not to have a governement in which the
interlocutor fom the other side who will tells us what to do.So in Syria we are in a strange brush since 3 years in which we says Bachar is not good but we can't really help because it can help the islamists so everybody go round and round in circles so everybody watch the spectacle.
Comes the chemical incident who can be sponsorized by "i don't know who" but it's not important what's important is the meaning .It appears clearly now that the USA with France and maybe GB if they change their opinion will intervene in Syria in the nearly days by hit cibled targets.
What's the goal of all this?What's going on? Because again it makes me laugh
When people are gased, in general we gas the rats and bugs not humans... Everybody are agitated BUT when they are shredded,burried alive in their house, jump on mines so here yes it's normal...
Apparently dying from gas inhalation is more serious than dying shredded into kofta ok, i accept since this is the new standard.
So we must intervene all of a sudden..
What are the reasons of the motivation of the American intervention? Again it's an hypothese but after thought a lot , Usa want finish with Bachar but they want prevent that Bachar is finished by something else than themself or the troops of democratic rebels that form 50 to 60% of rebels because if it was the case it would be a very bad signal sent to arab world to say that this big taghout Bachar (transgressor) has not been finished by democracy and US bombs but by the black flags ( those who fight for islamic states).
So they absolutaly want to prevent this which would be very bad marketing for democracy.Bachar must be finished from the West or from the democrats but certainly not from the islamists.The islamists must be shown as the failure, negative and barbarians and the goods, the nices are the USA and the democrats.
It's the reasons why USA want take things in control because this war have last long enough and it became disturbingto see the amplitude and scale that the djihadists troops are occuped to takes in Syria. USA want take the control and take down Bachar.So to me it's the appropriation of the end of Bachar.It's not about to do inderectly war to Iran, China and Russia.
It's simply to say the democracy make fall down the tyrant, the liberty is given to arab world but they are free to become as WE want they become.
So when we think that it's the muslim brotherhood we help them, if we see that it's not them because they don't obey as planed,we kick them out and put somoene else who we will make you love them in medias, tv etc.
Everybody knows that in a country where a president is democratically elected if he's demote in one night , it's a coup d'etat.But they didn't call it coup d'etat because if it was the case they'd have to stop the helps to Egypt and they can't permit to have this puppets army as enemies since they assure the protection of Isreal in Egypt.
So we are far from the silly scenario we hear like " the salafi djihadi are CIA agent" etc...
These people didn't understand anything ,they don't listen and visualize the speeches,texts and doctrines disseminated by these groups.If they'd search they'd it's very coherent and Islamically it's based on solid sources and that' they are not hollywood actors who are occuped to do this.But all is good to say that the empire is the great evil and that the great good is in the other side in our "friend" (Russian,China,Iran).These people who are vector wonderful values etc... (irony)
For muslims :
Democracy is incompatible with Islam, muslim must not be accomplice of this fraud established by the enemies of islam (capitalists,imperialists) and that the muslims doesn't have 36 choices.Either the patience, the predication or the confrontation/fight but confrontation/fight according to islamic rules and to join the brothers and sisters of Tâifa al Mansoûra (the rescued party) who are disseminate in the world.That's the way to have results, we see it in Afghanistan.But starting to bring with yourself some civilians who become widower,orphan,hurt,paralyzed because we ask them to go unarmed and cofront militaries to be shoot on is stupid.It's not because i have pity of the muslims's death in streets at Cairo that i must not criticize the strategy and method of muslim brotherhood that is very bad for the futur of islam.
To conclude :
We will have targeted hit on syria and i don't see other explanations to have the goal to appropriate the victory on Bachar and to not let this tittle for the "islamists" which would be a very bad advertising.it's without a doubt their Motivations to intervene.According to their reference and satellites the rebels are growing more and more peoples come from the foreign and progressing and it becomes worrying to see that Bachar loosing will revenge on it's own population so the love for the mujahideen will increase, the hate of Bachar will increase so Usa decided to intervene, Usa want show that they "care" about the arabs because they don't want that all these hearts go to those who fight for an islamic state.However what is more important for muslims is to understand that this war is the premise of the great confrontation against the Imam Mahdi and the 80 banners of the allied troops and that we are spectator in the forefront of the most important events that happened since the beginning of Islam, the responsability is enormous, self-questionning is enourmous and have the responsability and test to make face to this big challenge that is Inchallah the coming of the Imam Mahdi after the death of the Saoudi King very soon.
Jesus Christ you are stupid as shit.
Look Mr Smarty Pants, grammar is not the topic in this thread. So if you have nothing productive to add to the debate then C yoself outta here
You're the one who brought the phrases up dumbass.
