Do you honestly think that his measily stick can pierce through Tsunade's skull. Remember that the skull covers your entire head unlike the stomach and chest area where there are holes and gaps. Furthermore, Tsunade is of Senju/Uzumaki heritage so her bones will be even harder to pierce in comparison to regular humans. Furthermore there is no reason why Tsunade can't simply duck like she did when
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. Well you may counter this by saying that Hidan is faster so Tsunade won't be able to dodge but in this scenario, we are talking about Hidan getting pulled by Tsunade by utilizing Hidan's scythe as a medium with which Tsunade accomplishes the pulling so Hidan's speed at this point is controlled by Tsunade so Hidan isn't blitzing or getting the better of her.
Why would she duck if the whole point of this was to land a blow on Hidan?... But anyway's what is ducking going to do perhaps you were misguided by that scan, he's not actually going to throw it, when he gets close enough he is literally going to shove it through the face of her, now ok, I'm just this year learning anatomy but i'm pretty sure i know where the rib-cage is
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i know that the Skull is stronger, but the fact that it ripped throught the rib-cage with ease should imply that its not having trouble with the skull, even a Knife is able to bypass it with the right speed and angle, i doubt a stick that size is going to be repelled, especially with Hidan's pretty good physical strength
By the time Tsunade punches the ground, Hidan will first have to see the impact, think about what to do and then send signals from his brain to his legs telling them to place chakra in his feet. This will take too long and by the time she punches the ground, Tsunade will send him flying. Once he is in mid-air, Hidan won't be able to change direction or navigate without footing so Tsunade can simply jump very high in the air by placing chakra in her feet similar to how
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:| Really Bro, Really, what you just said is basically the same as activating Jutsu, which we all know can be used Instantaneous, it comes down to his reaction feats which as i pointed out are not bad,not bad in the slightest , i mean just look here
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he wasn't even looking at the tree, yet he was able to instantly stick to it, its really not going to be a problem here as he clearly is going to she Tsunade punching the ground anyway's and it takes time for the fissure to reach him, so its not even Instant as you have been saying
Alright I'll admit that Hidan won't get paralysed by minor spinal damage caused by a small stick/sword although Tsunade's susanoo shattering punches would break his entire spine to bits and pieces thus rendering Hidan useless. Although my point was that BPD should still work on Hidan because unlike damaging the spine, BPD works so that the electrical pulses within the nerves mess up, thus no physical damage actually happens.
Bro, if BPD gets in use he can simply stab himself through the spine, thus rendering the Nervous system entirely useless, and Mooting BPD, but again i doubt it would affect him :/
Both attacks have the potential to kill opponents although I'll admit that stabbing vital areas is more lethal compared to blunt attacks. However, in terms of incapacitating opponents, you have to destroy their entire skeletal structure and to do this, blunt attacks work better since they spread out more than cutting or stabbing attacks. Since Hidan is immortal, stabbing him is useless but decapitation and incapacitation are still valid means of putting him down. If Hidan miraculously survives Tsunade's punch and is still able to move due to Tsunade's punch not being strong enough to shatter his spine into pieces, Hidan will still have some difficulty moving about as the impact from Tsunade's punch will mess Hidan up until he recovers from the trauma and heals the wounds. What will happen is that Tsunade will then follow up another punch when Hidan gets pushed back similar to how Sakura
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that she had punched.
Apparently your not getting that incapacitating hidan is much harder then you make it out to be, the only real way to do it would be through Removal of limbs, which no Tsunade does not have any way to do, simply punching him isn;t going to do squat, as i've shown multiple time's throughout this argument, he can live with the breaking of bones and function perfectly fine without them. The fact that his spine was completely impaled and he also wrecked his femur at some point proves it. Also what most people don't realize is Hidan's regeneration. Now it may not be on Tsunade's level but it is rather considerable,
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wound through the chest/spine
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No Wound Its also if you just use common logic, as Hidan punctures his Heart during his fight with Asuma, and Shikamaru, Yet the blood flow almost stops Immediately wheras a wound of that caliber should bleed profusely for a while. Also explains how he "Tanked" Kakuzu's fuuton
The pressure from Kakuzu's fuuton is great but it shouldn't be compared to a punch from Tsunade or Sakura. That attack of Kakuzu is aimed at a wide area so its pressure power is spread through a large surface area whereas when Tsunade punches an object, the areas closest to the impact get dealt much more damage than the areas far from the punch.
Never did compare it i was just saying ^_^
Read what
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for yourself. The user builds the maximum amount of chakra into her fists and then releases it in an instant. Now look at what happened to the ground after Sakura punched it. The ground got shattered from all around the area of the punch.
Yes so that's also similar to the gentle fist style, which we all know doesn't cause explosions the fact of the matter is when Tsunade punches a human being, shown in the manga, there are no explosions caused to the person, nor will their ever be
Here is the definition of what an explosion is:
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I know what an explosion is lol
Basically what the definition of an explosion is matches with Kakashi's description of what happened, energy (in this case charka) was released in an instant. The effects of chakra enduced punch are also the effects of an explosion because it caused stuff to shatter (in this case rock).
No that doesn't mean squat, again Gentle fist style is similar yet no explosions are caused, don't think you can compare energy of an explosion and Chakra
Well stabbing 50 times will take Hidan quite a long time to do so and Tsunade won't just stand there letting Hidan keep on stabbing himself. While Tsunade was impaled by the two susanoo clones, she was constantly taking damage yet the pain didn't hinder her from attacking the susanoo clone. Hidan stabbing himself with a weapon that causes a lot less damage and pain than a susanoo sword won't cause Tsunade to succumb to the ritual.
2 Susano'o swords, <<<<<<<< 10 stabs to the heart, she may be able to regenerate but the instant blow that kills anyone else immediately, except apparently asuma which only happens 1 in a Million (someone surviving a heart impale) although it was clearly plot, anyway's the instant kill blow will no doubt put her down until the cell's can regenerate meaning she'd fall lifeless to the ground :| Moves that kill instantly are different from ones such as normal impales. Meaning he can do it as much as he pleases
Hidan could outlast the Byakogou only if Tsunade does nothing and succumb to pain but the jutsus from Madara that Tsunade tanked are of a higher level and deal more damage than Hidan's ritual which didn't even instantly kill Asuma although Asuma would get one shotted by susanoo swords, Madara's katons and Madara's
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which goes to show that Tsunade will have no problem going on the offensive while Hidan initiates the ritual.
No they don't as i explained above your comparing damage that does not kill instantly, with one that is supposed too, and if she charges he falls back and creates another circle lol although i doubt it would happen
Hidan will withdraw because he'll be forced to withdraw when Tsunade comes charging in because then Tsunade can punch Hidan out of the circle, destroy the ground thus ending Hidan's opportunity completely or use BPD on him.
BPD is useless as i pointed out above, and so what if he falls back he can then create another sigil. Anyway's i'd also like to bring something up here, as we all know Tsunade has a great reserve of chakra so this would still take time however, Byakugo still requires chakra to heal the user, and the only reason it lasted so long against Madara was because she wasn't feeling constant damage so the Byakugo didn't have to empty her reserves, which i think it did anyway's
however here Hidan will be dealing out constant wounds
to the heart no less that all will take chakra to heal from, eventually, def. sooner then the Madara fight Her Chakra will empty and Hidan will win easily, if i was in the mood i could calculate all the damage she received Via the Madara fight but i'm really not trying to do that lol, basically what i am saying is that the more Hidan impales himself the quicker Byakugo is depleted.
Sure Tsunade will also take damage but her regeneration is on a higher level than Hidan's immortality since she can rebuild damage organs much faster than Hidan. Although since Tsunade is intelligent, she'll instead opt to use BPD since even though it will effect her while Hidan is in his circle, she is a medical ninja genius and can counter it just like Kabuto did but Hidan is screwed from this point onwards.
BPD is useless, all he needs is to figure out his arm and then impale the spine, not that hard
Fine if you want to go by feats, then do so in every VS thread. You say that the Sannin are over hyped and disregard their hype but then you go on to hype Kakuzu's doton domu, Itachi's Yata mirror, etc. Clearly you have a pro bias when it comes to the Akatsuki and anti bias against the kages and Sannin.
Way to bring up pointless shit :| I clearly don't im a fan of Orochimaru and feel he is underrated however the other two are overrated to the max, mostly Jiraiya... lol Who btw Kakuzu shits on
Anyway Zexion, I don't understand why there is a
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I don't get it :|
As for countering that combo, Tsunade simply charges him head on because she knows that a simple scythe won't kill her. She'll get hit but by the time Hidan has access to Tsunade's blood, Tsunade will be on Hidan's face so he won't be able to get out of Tsunade's range nor will he be able to pull back his scythe, drink her blood and initiate the ritual.
Do you not see the sword flying right at her? if she charges she will be hit in the face, yes i know he does not carry that sword however he can simulate the same effect with his Stick which he threw with deadly intent, and don't say he won't have it for later as he clearly has two of them
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Well you might say that since Asuma was faster than Tsunade yet couldn't land a hit on Hidan, Tsunade can't touch Hidan or prevent Hidan from initiating his ritual but you are dead wrong on this. The reason why Asuma couldn't stop Hidan was because Asuma has no immortality, regeneration or durability so he was playing it safe by keeping a distance so that Hidan won't be able to chain another attack. Whereas, Tsunade won't care if Hidan gets another hit on herself.
Lol i'm not a generic ignorant Hidan supporter i wasn't going to imply that at all, but however i wouldn't say he was playing it safe the whole time
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However the fact remains that he was able to keep up with Kakashi if not overwhelm him really, as he received no Injury at all or any resistance
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now i want you too look at the position of the scythe its basically on his skin, had it not been for plot he only need to move his hand slightly forward to impale Kakashi just keep that in mind in hidan debates, ^_^ oh yeah have another scan
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ans since Kakashi is clearly much faster Then Tsunade, the feats of speed go in Hidan's favor
Then you admit it will be harder to get blood from Tsunade than it was for Hidan to get it from Asuma even though Asuma might be a bit faster than Tsunade?
With those long range attacks yes, but if Hidan goes Close up its basically inevitable
Anyway you underestimate the vast number of uses when it comes to skilled usage of chakra control. Genin Sakura who most likely had worse chakra control than current Tsunade for obvious reasons was able to catch Ino off guard due to the burst in speed after
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Thats cool and all, but Tsunade has never even shown to try and do that, not that it matters as Hitting Hidan is futile
I know part one Ino is slow but my point is that random bursts of speed can catch someone off guard in a prolonged battle when they are already being used to fighting that same opponent with a usual lower level of speed.
Yes but as Hidan's feat's suggest he is faster then the DB gives him credit for, whereas Tsunade has no feats going for her
Also putting chakra in one's feet also helps evade attacks which may come in handy against Hidan as part one Naruto, who has poor chakra control which was being
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:| What does that have to do with anything? The seal was still on him if that was your point and it does not even look like he is using chakra in his feet?