Pain> tobirama and kisame

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Kisame is far above everyone else...

Hype:
Tobirama the Senju...
 

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According to under "Abilities", a holder of a Rinnegan has the potential to be able to master the 5 basic elements. We can also safely assume that Pain's water ability is advanced to the jutsu he could activate . But since we haven't seen more of his Suton feats, let's just say kisame and tobirama take this.
 
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That dosen't prove anything since according to the person I replied to itachi's water dragon was formed from water inside itachi's body. Which is the same as what tobirama did.
 

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Itachi can do it too. Infact any high level ninja with water release can use it.

What he meant was make water out of thin air, which only Tobirama was said to have the ability to do.
 

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As you can see, tobirama is the greatest suiton user.
 

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Tobirama and Kisame are both beasts of water usage, idk who is better but I'd like to the two fight since both are incredibly strong and have great techniques.
 

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Wasn't it also said that Tobirama could execute the Water Dragon jutsu with only one seal even though it required 44 seals?
 

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•Hype: Nothing much.
kisame was hyped as tailless bijuu and one of the largest chakras even among akatsuki

•Hype: Said to be the strongest Suiton user.
no he wasnt. not once was this ever established. meaning you lied. in a debate theres no lying.
It came from his body
all suiton does. whats your point?
Hype:
Tobirama the Senju...
what hype?

As you can see, tobirama is the greatest suiton user.
no one sees that because its false.
tobirama's came from the atmosphere. no
read the manga noob
only Tobirama was said to have the ability to do.
no he wasnt. by who? by what?

Tobirama could execute the Water Dragon jutsu with only one seal even though it required 44 seals?
thats no different to kisame just clapping his hands together to make a massive lake
Only kisame and tobirama can make water out of nothing.
and kakashi. and darui. and fodders
 
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