Did tobirama make naruto more dangerous?

[MickNerks]

In the latest manga there was an explaination from tobirama on how naruto's kyuubi cloaks principle was much like the how the shadow clones worked. He explained that even if you divide your chakra, as long as you leave trace amounts behind in each clone, when the main body manipulates the chakra then the chakra in the other bodies will resonate as well. Naruto did this with actual shinobi, but tobirama described it in terms of shadow clones.

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So this is what I begin to think about. If naruto in Bijuu mode can transfer a substantial amount of his chakra to the rest of the allied forces and still have great reserves of power left within his original body, then could that possible mean that naruto could make as many bijuu mode clones as there are shinobi that he passed his chakra to.

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Lets say naruto passed his chakra to 500 allied shinobi. Well instead of giving it to them, (from the way tobirama described it) couldn't he just make 500 Bijuu mode clones. He's essentially doing the same thing with his clones that he is doing to the allied forces. Dividing his chakra up leaving all clones with a substantial amount of power that will allow them to maintain bijuu mode. And now that naruto has mastered chakra control, he doesn't have to worry about wasting chakra.

Just a thought. What do you think?​

 

[Chīkara]

No.

Shadow clone jutsu requires chakra.
As well for bijuu mode.

he only passed kyuubi chakra to the shinobi alliance.
if he would cast both of then he can never make as much STRONG clones
with bijuu mode.

he might go up to 3 bijuu mode clones but i think these aren't strong.
and IF this theory would be possible

madara would use a hundred of perfect susano'o clones.

 

[H a n]

Naruto has always been dangerous but I praise him due to the fact he has not killed.

 

[MickNerks]

No.

Shadow clone jutsu requires chakra.
As well for bijuu mode.

he only passed kyuubi chakra to the shinobi alliance.
if he would cast both of then he can never make as much STRONG clones
with bijuu mode.

he might go up to 3 bijuu mode clones but i think these aren't strong.
and IF this theory would be possible

madara would use a hundred of perfect susano'o clones.

@bolded. The chakra naruto gave to the alliance is HIS OWN CHAKRA. Its not the kyuubi's.

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And every clone is just as powerful as the original. Of course plot is the reason we will never see feats of that mangnitude, but if the he can divide his chakra up amongst the alliance, I really don't see why shadow clones would be any different.

 

[Chīkara]

@bolded. The chakra naruto gave to the alliance is HIS OWN CHAKRA. Its not the kyuubi's.

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And every clone is just as powerful as the original. Of course plot is the reason we will never see feats of that mangnitude, but if the he can divide his chakra up amongst the alliance, I really don't see why shadow clones would be any different.

he is CONVERTING kyuubi chakra to its own so he can pass it to the alliance. kyuubi also runs out of chakra. so its impossible to make so much STRONG bijuu clones

 

[Sennin of Logic]

he is CONVERTING kyuubi chakra to its own so he can pass it to the alliance. kyuubi also runs out of chakra. so its impossible to make so much STRONG bijuu clones

Shadow clones don't divide strength like the the 2nd Tsuchikage's jutsu, it divides stamina. Naruto can make as many clones just as powerful as there were ninjas with cloaks.

 

[YellowFang]

Naruto is just too Godly right now, as well said by a friend 'in the same league as Hashirama & Madara'...

When we talk about PnJ, that's what will make Naruto and Sasuke even if it happened... Because, I don't see Sasuke closing that kind of class and league as of now...

 

[Troyg39]

@bolded. The chakra naruto gave to the alliance is HIS OWN CHAKRA. Its not the kyuubi's.

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And every clone is just as powerful as the original. Of course plot is the reason we will never see feats of that mangnitude, but if the he can divide his chakra up amongst the alliance, I really don't see why shadow clones would be any different.

In the very next panel you clearly see Kurama saying that it's his chakra being converted and passed. The bulk of the chakra is Kurama's, not Naruto's. Basically he gave the alliance both. He gave a little bit of his own so that they would be compatible with Kurama's chakra but most of the chakra distributed was Kuramas.

OT: Essentially yes assuming Naruto can make 500 clones with his own chakra. That's a lot of clones and he's never had to make nearly that many. It would also means he'll be splitting his chakra 500 ways which will make the clones relatively weak. But if he then distributes Kurama's chakra like he did with the alliance then they'll be strong again. Also I wouldn't give Naruto credit for the latest manga feat. It was actually Minato who manipulated his chakra like the Shadow clones, Naruto just simply acted as a median

**Edit** Nevermind on one point. The clones would be just as strong as the original so yes this could work provided he could make that many clones without running out of chakra

 

[Sennin of Logic]

In the very next panel you clearly see Kurama saying that it's his chakra being converted and passed. The bulk of the chakra is Kurama's, not Naruto's. Basically he gave the alliance both. He gave a little bit of his own so that they would be compatible with Kurama's chakra but most of the chakra distributed was Kuramas.

OT: Essentially yes assuming Naruto can make 500 clones with his own chakra. That's a lot of clones and he's never had to make nearly that many. It would also means he'll be splitting his chakra 500 ways which will make the clones relatively weak. But if he then distributes Kurama's chakra like he did with the alliance then they'll be strong again. Also I wouldn't give Naruto credit for the latest manga feat. It was actually Minato who manipulated his chakra like the Shadow clones, Naruto just simply acted as a median

Naruto's made 2000 clones when he was 12 without Kurama's help at all, 500 is nothing to him now. Each clone would be about as strong as his one tail form.

 

[MickNerks]

he is CONVERTING kyuubi chakra to its own so he can pass it to the alliance. kyuubi also runs out of chakra. so its impossible to make so much STRONG bijuu clones

All clones would be just as strong as the original is. The only downside is they wouldnt have a large of chakra reserves, but there strength will be the exact same. If anything each clone would have the chakra levels of someone like kakashi.

But this isn't a problem because naruto has more chakra then the remaining allied forces combined.

 

[Ariow]

Didn't he already make a bunch of Biju mode clones when he first entered the battle? I don't think it was quite 500, but yes I have no problem believing Naruto can now with an improved control over the 9 tails chakra create many more Biju mode clones like you say.

 

[kronoseth]

he didnt give the allied forces chackra equal to his, its a diff concept form kagebushin

 

[Troyg39]

Naruto's made 2000 clones when he was 12 without Kurama's help at all, 500 is nothing to him now. Each clone would be about as strong as his one tail form.

I don't remember the manga stating he made that many but if you say so I'll take your word for it. And I already edited that last point. It still takes chakra to make those clones. Again, I've never seen him make 500 but I'm sure you wouldn't throw out 2000 without it being in the manga so I agree

**Edit** No I take that back. What I said originally was true. Each clone might be equal in strength but the chakra would be split, thus making them weaker and less effective because they wouldn't be able to perform as many chakra consuming techniques

 

[MickNerks]

In the very next panel you clearly see Kurama saying that it's his chakra being converted and passed. The bulk of the chakra is Kurama's, not Naruto's. Basically he gave the alliance both. He gave a little bit of his own so that they would be compatible with Kurama's chakra but most of the chakra distributed was Kuramas.

OT: Essentially yes assuming Naruto can make 500 clones with his own chakra. That's a lot of clones and he's never had to make nearly that many. It would also means he'll be splitting his chakra 500 ways which will make the clones relatively weak. But if he then distributes Kurama's chakra like he did with the alliance then they'll be strong again. Also I wouldn't give Naruto credit for the latest manga feat. It was actually Minato who manipulated his chakra like the Shadow clones, Naruto just simply acted as a median

**Edit** Nevermind on one point. The clones would be just as strong as the original so yes this could work provided he could make that many clones without running out of chakra

Naruto was able to make 1000 clones without kurama's chakra.

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[Sennin of Logic]

I don't remember the manga stating he made that many but if you say so I'll take your word for it. And I already edited that last point. It still takes chakra to make those clones. Again, I've never seen him make 500 but I'm sure you wouldn't throw out 2000 without it being in the manga so I agree

It was the knoha destruction arc. Naruto vs Garra. Naruto said Naruto 2k Uzamaki barrage.

 

[Troyg39]

Naruto was able to make 1000 clones without kurama's chakra.

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Didn't know that was 1000. In that case then yes your idea would work

 

[Optimistic]

Naruto's made 2000 clones when he was 12 without Kurama's help at all, 500 is nothing to him now. Each clone would be about as strong as his one tail form.

Does this look like he even hit 1000?

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[Sennin of Logic]

Does this look like he even hit 1000?

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I'm talking about Naruto VS Garra.

 

[Troyg39]

I'm talking about Naruto VS Garra.

Actually I don't see him saying anything about using 2k shadow clones. Did he say that in the anime or something? I could just be looking at the wrong time where he used shadow clones

 

[Optimistic]

I'm talking about Naruto VS Garra.

That's not 1000 either.I'm not gonna count each Naruto but that is not 1000 you can tell by looking at it.Not like it matters since he makes a lot of clones anyway.Lol

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