Hashi has a chakra level like 9tails.

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When Naruto shared his and kurama's chakra, Hashi noted that it was about comparable to his... Hashirama has the chakra of a perfect jinchuuriki.... How strong is this guy??? Also, the Solo King is stronger because Hashi admitted he was a better shinobi. Deal with it. :cool:
No he doesn't. I believe that was a mistranslation, there's no way that 1 man can have chakra levels on the level of a Bijuu.

But the topic doesn't really interest me, don't feel like debating about it.
 

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I looked at the next page, he said total bijuu mode, at that point Naruto didn't have the chakra to enter and maintain bm. What's there to debate? At that point all they could do was maintain bm for a second.

As for the second all it did was ask for chakra from it's other half. He obviously didn't have enough for bm and the chakra hand out then. All it really needed was bm, the small amount Naruto had is enough to connect everyone so Minato can teleport them.

Basic reading comprehension. Hashirama talked about the volume of chakra the alliance gained not the kyuubi's as whole which isn't even at full, i'm having to repeat myself because you haven't understood that.

That's because he needed to strengthen the bond between the two. Remember how they were only able to maintain BM for only 5 minutes, even after a day of fighting in kyuubi mode? Yeah guess what naruto had been using kurama's chakra all the time. So naruto can go into it without even being at full power, so that first bold point is dismissed.

Now unto the second bold point... maybe the yang with 100% still wouldn't have enough chakra to pull off such a feat and needed both 100% yin and yang? Have you ever thought of that. Maybe the yang 100% only has enough overall chakra to either chakra cloaks or BM and not both at once and that is therefore, the reason why Kurama yang was asking kurama yin.
 

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No he doesn't. I believe that was a mistranslation, there's no way that 1 man can have chakra levels on the level of a Bijuu.

But the topic doesn't really interest me, don't feel like debating about it.

Look at Kisame for evidence that yes some people (although rare) can have bijuu level chakra. And kisame wasn't even hailed as a god of shinobi.
 

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Hashirama just admitted that Naruto had the same amount of chakra as him.

"This is an impressive VOLUME of chakra. COMPARABLE to mine in FACT!!!!!

They are comparable to each others. Naruto's chakra volume is comparable to Hashirama's. And this isn't even the limit of Naruto's chakra reserves, he still has loads more chakra that was drained from him as he has been fighting a war for 2 days straight. So if anything, Naruto fully recovered could have MORE chakra than hashirama.

No, he noticed that it wasn't only just Naruto's, but the kyuubi's as well. No doubt that Base Naruto's chakra will surpass all shinobi eventually though.
 

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Hashirama just admitted that Naruto had the same amount of chakra as him.

"This is an impressive VOLUME of chakra. COMPARABLE to mine in FACT!!!!!

They are comparable to each others. Naruto's chakra volume is comparable to Hashirama's. And this isn't even the limit of Naruto's chakra reserves, he still has loads more chakra that was drained from him as he has been fighting a war for 2 days straight. So if anything, Naruto fully recovered could have MORE chakra than hashirama.

That was bijuu mode chakra being used by naruto not naruto's chakra without kurama. Without kurama naruto's chakra is exceptionally large but not on the level of hashirama
 

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He compared himself to the chakra cloaks handed out, not all of Naruto and the kyuubi's chakra. Where's the contradiction?

He said the volume of the chakra, referring to the original source. Which was a full kurama... He wasn't solely talking about the chakra cloaks.. though nice excuse as always. *_*


Also if going by your logic.. Hashirama is then also saying that he can give out chakra on the scale of Naruto........ o_O. So either way... Ful kurama+ Naruto's chakra is comparable to Hashirama's.

No, he noticed that it wasn't only just Naruto's, but the kyuubi's as well. No doubt that Base Naruto's chakra will surpass all shinobi eventually though.

When he has the juubi inside of course. :cool:
 
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That's because he needed to strengthen the bond between the two. Remember how they were only able to maintain BM for only 5 minutes, even after a day of fighting in kyuubi mode? Yeah guess what naruto had been using kurama's chakra all the time. So naruto can go into it without even being at full power, so that first bold point is dismissed.

Now unto the second bold point... maybe the yang with 100% still wouldn't have enough chakra to pull off such a feat and needed both 100% yin and yang? Have you ever thought of that. Maybe the yang 100% only has enough overall chakra to either chakra cloaks or BM and not both at once and that is therefore, the reason why Kurama yang was asking kurama yin.

@Bolded: What you said makes no sense because naruto was able to pull it off before. Naruto already entered bijuu mode, made clones of bijuu mode, and passed out chakra cloaks all at the same time already. You seem to be making speculations at this point.

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He said the volume of the chakra, referring to the original source. Which was a full kurama... He wasn't solely talking about the chakra cloaks.. though nice excuse as always. *_*

By volume of chakra there's no deep meaning he only compared to what he saw was being handed out.
 

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By volume of chakra there's no deep meaning he only compared to what he saw was being handed out.

He basically stated what was going on can be compared to him....Meaning he can also give out chakra on the same scale as Naruto...

However, your bent on making it a different situation.
 

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No, he noticed that it wasn't only just Naruto's, but the kyuubi's as well. No doubt that Base Naruto's chakra will surpass all shinobi eventually though.

That was bijuu mode chakra being used by naruto not naruto's chakra without kurama. Without kurama naruto's chakra is exceptionally large but not on the level of hashirama


I wasn't solely talking about naruto's chakra levels by themselves. Ever since naruto released kurama and became his friend, their chakras have merged into one reserve.

That's probally why we have the misunderstanding (my mistake). When I speak of naruto's chakra, im referring to the combination of him and kurama, because at this point in the manga they are combined.
 

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He basically stated what was going on can be compared to him....Meaning he can also give out chakra on the same scale as Naruto...

However, your bent on making it a different situation.


I'm calling it as I see it not making it into a different situation. He talks about the volume of the chakra handed out, he then compares. If he was comparing all of Naruto's chakra he would have made the distinction.
 

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I believe that he is talking about the volume of Chakra that Naruto is distributing to the Alliance.

Since he did not say "his chakra( Naruto's)" instead he used "that" after saying Naruto is sharing his chakra. In which case comparing his own chakra with the volume that is given to the whole shinobi force. Then he realize that Naruto's was also using Kurama's chakra which answer his own surprise how Naruto is handling that much chakra comparable to his.
 

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Look at Kisame for evidence that yes some people (although rare) can have bijuu level chakra. And kisame wasn't even hailed as a god of shinobi.
That was because he drained Chakra. Alone he wasn't much, even though he was impressive.

And if you want to be technical about it, there's no such thing as a 0 Tail, meaning he's not quite at the level of Shukaku. And I was talking about the levels of Kurama.
 

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He said the volume of the chakra, referring to the original source. Which was a full kurama... He wasn't solely talking about the chakra cloaks.. though nice excuse as always. *_*


Also if going by your logic.. Hashirama is then also saying that he can give out chakra on the scale of Naruto........ o_O. So either way... Ful kurama+ Naruto's chakra is comparable to Hashirama's.



When he has the juubi inside of course. :cool:

Agreed, lol.
I wasn't solely talking about naruto's chakra levels by themselves. Ever since naruto released kurama and became his friend, their chakras have merged into one reserve.

That's probally why we have the misunderstanding (my mistake). When I speak of naruto's chakra, im referring to the combination of him and kurama, because at this point in the manga they are combined.

Well, then yes, we're in agreement. :)
We know that a jinchuuriki is stronger than the tailed beast itself anyway. Not to say Naruto>Hashirama, but to say their chakra reserves are both greater than a bijuu alone if you catch my drift.
 

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There's one big hole in the theory that Hashirama has as much chakra as Kurama. If he did, then why is it that he always goes into SM to fight Perfect susanoo, which Madara said was comparable to bijus, not surpassing them? As we're seeing, Hashirama's SM makes him equal to Perfect Susanoo unless he uses the statue. But if he already has chakra equal to a biju's, then how is it that he can't equal Madara in base mode? If it was as strong as Kurama's in base, then he should have been able to steamroll Madara at this point since he should be having chakra equivalent to Kurama enhanced by SM. He can't have equal chakra to Kurama.
 

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I wasn't solely talking about naruto's chakra levels by themselves. Ever since naruto released kurama and became his friend, their chakras have merged into one reserve.

That's probally why we have the misunderstanding (my mistake). When I speak of naruto's chakra, im referring to the combination of him and kurama, because at this point in the manga they are combined.

I see thanks for clearing it up.:cool:
 

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Yes hashi is pretty strong in terms of chakra levels.... how else did he fight madara in the valley of the end? punching him a lot or spending a shit load of chakra? Naruto though defently has a lot of chakara. He has gone non-stop with this war....
 

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There's one big hole in the theory that Hashirama has as much chakra as Kurama. If he did, then why is it that he always goes into SM to fight Perfect susanoo, which Madara said was comparable to bijus, not surpassing them? As we're seeing, Hashirama's SM makes him equal to Perfect Susanoo unless he uses the statue. But if he already has chakra equal to a biju's, then how is it that he can't equal Madara in base mode? If it was as strong as Kurama's in base, then he should have been able to steamroll Madara at this point since he should be having chakra equivalent to Kurama enhanced by SM. He can't have equal chakra to Kurama.

Madara's PS equals a bijuu. It dosen't mean madara has bijuu level chakra.
 

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Madara's PS equals a bijuu. It dosen't mean madara has bijuu level chakra.

I know, but his power equals a biju, and if we go by this theory, Hashirama's ninjutusu in base mode, thanks to biju level chakra, should be enough to equal the power of Perfect susanoo, which he hasn't in base mode.
 
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