[Discussion] imagine no religion

[Summer]

It's like a test. When you're taking a test the Teacher can't give you answers right? We created our own problems so it'd be only right if we solve them. I've seen/heard about some pretty explainable events from time to time. And recently I've been praying alot, and so far almost everything I've asked for is happening for me exactly how I asked. Coincidence? I don't know for certain. But even if god can't be explained scientifically it would be more illogical to say they're just coincidences.

Praying has actually does nothing to help you when has a prayer ever paid a bill or even saved a life legitimately not once that I have heard of. What you speak of is just natural cause and order when things are bad they can either get worse or get better that is absolute.

 

[Fapulous]

Without religion the scientific world would arise and we would have made such unbelievable progress, but maybe we wouldn't because religion taught morals and how to act in society...

 

[oShux]

Praying has actually does nothing to help you when has a prayer ever paid a bill or even saved a life legitimately not once that I have heard of. What you speak of is just natural cause and order when things are bad they can either get worse or get better that is absolute.

Praying for something good to come your way and asking god to pay your bills are two different things. I take it you just skimmed through my post?

 

[Mighty]

A world without religion?!?!?!

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[Fodder#5]

It's like a test. When you're taking a test the Teacher can't give you answers right? We created our own problems so it'd be only right if we solve them. I've seen/heard about some pretty explainable events from time to time. And recently I've been praying alot, and so far almost everything I've asked for is happening for me exactly how I asked. Coincidence? I don't know for certain. But even if god can't be explained scientifically it would be more illogical to say they're just coincidences.

It's probably due to your own hard work, not some form of divine intervention. You what they say. Two hands at work will always produce more results than a thousand hands clasped in prayer. I never understood why people give God credit for anything. If he does exist, he would have no interest in the life of one person. It's really an arrogant thought by man to think that an Almighty Being would actually care what happens to him

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Praying has actually does nothing to help you when has a prayer ever paid a bill or even saved a life legitimately not once that I have heard of. What you speak of is just natural cause and order when things are bad they can either get worse or get better that is absolute.

How can you tell if prayer works or not? At the very least, if there's no God or higher being, it could help the person feel better about whatever problem/challenge they're facing. Don't quote me on it, but I think there have been studies that have proven prayer helps with stress and things of the like. Not sure, though.

 

[hixa kuogame]

This is pretty offensive
Don't forget that its the Bible that the US constitution is based off of
Don't forget its the Christians that are visiting shelters
When was the last time you've heard of a group of atheists going to a homeless shelter
Christians embody morality and pureness by their appearance
If this world didn't have these kind of peaceful people where would we be
Also no one is calling any atheist a hater and its not like the Christians are the ones bullying the gays and making them commit suicide
Christians only protest for purity in the USA and everywhere
Homosexuals shouldn't be active in society

 

[Eclipsingon]

We as humans need some type guidelines just because we don't believe in religion does not mean there will automatically be peace in fact life would be more chaotic thats why all these systems from country to country were created to control human behavior kinda like naruto huh

 

[Made in Heaven]

Praying has actually does nothing to help you when has a prayer ever paid a bill or even saved a life legitimately not once that I have heard of. What you speak of is just natural cause and order when things are bad they can either get worse or get better that is absolute.

Praying is meant to make things easy for you, not to do the work for you, you're meant to make the effort yoursel with god as support, not completly rely on him to get the job done for you while you sit around, doing nothing.

 

[Joon]

Without religion the scientific world would arise and we would have made such unbelievable progress, but maybe we wouldn't because religion taught morals and how to act in society...

Preach: "God has him. He is in a better place now."

No Religion: "Um! ....Give him back?"

Preach: "Just pray about it"

No Religion: "Maybe I should move on"

Preach: "Deep down I understand you are hurting right now and God can help you on your way of recuperating from the traumatize and suffering of the devils work. In his way, he is testing you to better a future for someone else, yourself, this world and eventually take your final step to stay into his kingdom"


:| That is how they get you.

 

[Transcendence]

Why do you believe that?

Because the foundation of religion breeds ignorance. People are indoctrinated from birth to believe in a higher power and "his" will is absolute. No proof; just indoctrination. Without the ignorance spread from religion, many people would be more individualistic and rely on themselves rather than resorting to the "God's will" excuse for any of their failures and or down comings. If it wasn't for religion, we'd have probably been 5 times as advanced as we are now and have colonized another planet.

 

[Yusuke Urameshi]

This is pretty offensive
Don't forget that its the Bible that the US constitution is based off of
Don't forget its the Christians that are visiting shelters
When was the last time you've heard of a group of atheists going to a homeless shelter
Christians embody morality and pureness by their appearance
If this world didn't have these kind of peaceful people where would we be
Also no one is calling any atheist a hater and its not like the Christians are the ones bullying the gays and making them commit suicide
Christians only protest for purity in the USA and everywhere
Homosexuals shouldn't be active in society

Actually, the Constitution was based off of previous governing documents in America and also the thoughts and ideas of Rousseau, Locke, and Montesquieu. lol

 

[Made in Heaven]

A world without religion?!?!?!

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Ah yes, because all those rapists, murders, and prostitutes are because of religions and their satanic teaching.

 

[Summer]

Praying for something good to come your way and asking god to pay your bills are two different things. I take it you just skimmed through my post?

No I read it but praying IMO is just a ease of the mind for most people and to show they have faith. It is a comfort for them, myself I don't see it helping much of anything it's just saying some words really.

 

[hixa kuogame]

Actually, the Constitution was based off of previous governing documents in America and also the thoughts and ideas of Rousseau, Locke, and Montesquieu. lol

I'm sorry you're write the us constitution was similar to the england whatever which was similar to the Bible something like that
Don't quote me on it

 

[Fodder#5]

This is pretty offensive
Don't forget that its the Bible that the US constitution is based off of
Don't forget its the Christians that are visiting shelters
When was the last time you've heard of a group of atheists going to a homeless shelter
Christians embody morality and pureness by their appearance
If this world didn't have these kind of peaceful people where would we be
Also no one is calling any atheist a hater and its not like the Christians are the ones bullying the gays and making them commit suicide
Christians only protest for purity in the USA and everywhere
Homosexuals shouldn't be active in society

Christians only do those things out of fear that they won't go to heaven.
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” - Marcus Aurelius

 

[Joon]

No I read it but praying IMO is just a ease of the mind for most people and to show they have faith. It is a comfort for them, myself I don't see it helping much of anything it's just saying some words really.

They say it with passion though. Make it more believeable... and interesting. u_u

 

[Fodder#5]

Actually, the Constitution was based off of previous governing documents in America and also the thoughts and ideas of Rousseau, Locke, and Montesquieu. lol

Also don't forget that most of the Founding Fathers weren't even Christian. Plus the Treaty of Tripoli which said that the US is not in any way founded on the Christian religion

 

[Made in Heaven]

Because the foundation of religion breeds ignorance. People are indoctrinated from birth to believe in a higher power and "his" will is absolute. No proof; just indoctrination. Without the ignorance spread from religion, many people would be more individualistic and rely on themselves rather than resorting to the "God's will" excuse for any of their failures and or down comings. If it wasn't for religion, we'd have probably been 5 times as advanced as we are now and have colonized another planet.

So you say religion has set back humanity in it's advancement? I suppose you base this off of what christions have done in the past, but what of Islam? Many improvments to the mathematical, scientific, astronomical, historic etc fields were made by muslims before they were implemented by the romans and greeks. I hope you're not ignorant of this, are you?

 

[-Punk-]

I guess I'm label as an Atheist , but i don't care if you are Christian , Jew etc , i care about the person you are , people this days go overboard into what others belief #Freedom from religion-Will Francis.