Hebi Sasuke > Kakashi

[EZQ]

Dont talk Bulshit with Jin..he got Help...gai Naruto Hachibi U_U
Stop it Indeed..you can't Handle the Fact Sasuke is Faster then kakashi himself and while he gets it by amaterasu..and gets spammed Over and over again..ow can you even see things for your Eyes..when black fire spins around Lol

- Read the link i gave you, kakashi faced them alone

-Currently Kakashi can also spam around 5 kamuis

 

[-immortal-]

- Read the link i gave you, kakashi faced them alone

-Currently Kakashi can also spam around 5 kamuis

agreed U_U
totally forgot

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[Brooks]

Yamanata is released only after Sasuke has no chakra remaining. It won't help if Kakashi kamuis him right away.

No, it isn't released after Sasuke is out of Chakra? where did you get that shit from? you're clearly don't what you're saying....just because the technique was released at that point doesn't mean it's what the tecqhue in order to be release.....please, don't say anything like that again.​

Besides, notice the time it took Sasuke to release it. Kakashi could in such time use Kamui six times over.

Lol, i can't tell if you either delusional or or just a complete fool.....it took a single page to release Yamata No Jutsu...but here you're are saying Kakashi can use six times Kamui in a single in other words...again, i will say this....be more careful of what you're saying before shooting out this type of nonsense.​

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Chapter 6 page 6....the moment Yamata No Jutsu was release...​

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^Chapter 392 Page 7....the technique was already release in this page and it only has been in a single...but here you saying Kakashi can use 6 times Kamui in that single page....don't ever saying anything like that to anyone else.​

Advice: reread the manga before saying something that is incorrect or you have no prove later to back it up.​

Also, you're still underestimating Kakashi and forgetting he went toe to toe, when already worn out, with 4 immortal V2 jinchuuriki and lated gedo mazo.

Still? huh, interesting word...i didn't know i underestimated Kakashi....doesn't matter who he went toe to toe....i can sit here and tell who Sasuke went toe to toe but that still isn't going to do him or Kakashi any good against in their fight.​

There's more behind Kakashi than just Kamui, you know.

Okay, but that's still isn't going him against Sasuke without the Kamui...​

Replacement technique won't work because the user just crawls out of his skin. If Sasuke is just warped away, he will crawl out in the kamui dimension already which won't be useful really.

It's still enough to give Sasuke the advantage of escaping it....once the Kamui wraps Sasuke....he can use the Chidori Sharp Spear through the ground and escape before his whole body gets wraped...​

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Sasuke still has Manda(who is the same size as Gamabunta) and gamabunta was the same size as the 1st Tail Beast and all tail Beast are the size(which means Kakashi has zero chacne of warping Manda without the Kyuubi's Chakra)....​

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[RikudoKami]

Hebi Sasuke with Chidori stream and senbon? GG

 

[koolsmooch]

All these. Hebi and taka sasuke threads are funny .they are basically the same person with difference in ability.
Ot: the fight will never happen

 

[Takos]

It's still enough to give Sasuke the advantage of escaping it....once the Kamui wraps Sasuke....he can use the Chidori Sharp Spear through the ground and escape before his whole body gets wraped...

After reading this one I no longer feel obligated to respond to the rest of the nonsense in your post.

You're saying Sasuke will have TIME to escape from a teleportation so fast that not even one of the most skillful Sharingan users could notice a meter in front of him even though he specifically stated he would look out for it?

Nothing more to add.

 

[Nature Sage]

Hebi Sasuke doesn't know how Kamui works or even what it is. This fight pretty much depends on whether Kamui can warp Kirin. I believe they are somewhat equal, Kakashi maybe having the upper hand due to experience and intelligence. But if Sasuke uses Kirin and Kakashi can't warp it, I'll give this to Sasuke. On the other hand, current Kakashi can Kamui fast moving objects (BM Naruto) so maybe Kakashi takes this. In Taijutsu CQC maybe Kakashi would win, although Sasuke has his sword which would cause problems especially when infused with Raiton. They would probably counter each other's Genjutsu. Katon is countered by Doton wall or Suiton wall. Chidori is countered by Raikiri.

TL;DR: It could go either way depending on Kirin and/or Kamui.

I don't necessarily count Kirin when it comes to Hebi Sasuke simply because at the time he didn't have amaterasu. He used the jutsu due to the heat from Itachi's amaterasu + his own enton. With this I conclude that he needed more heat than what he alone could put out. Unless it's hot at the current battlefield, I doubt he can use it freely. JMO

 

[-immortal-]

After reading this one I no longer feel obligated to respond to the rest of the nonsense in your post.

You're saying Sasuke will have TIME to escape from a teleportation so fast that not even one of the most skillful Sharingan users could notice a meter in front of him even though he specifically stated he would look out for it?

Nothing more to add.

Dude just stop..sasuke wins with EMS and CM :|

 

[Optimistic]

Its sad when people say Kakashi can beat EMS Sasuke.

 

[EternalFlame]

With Kamui: Sasuke loses (Assuming Kakashi is out of character, as he tends to use Kamui as a last resort)
Without Kamui: Sasuke wins with extreme difficulty

 

[-immortal-]

With Kamui: Sasuke loses (Assuming Kakashi is out of character, as he tends to use Kamui as a last resort)
Without Kamui: Sasuke wins with extreme difficulty

so Close..you're yert so U_U

 

[Nature Sage]

No, it isn't released after Sasuke is out of Chakra? where did you get that shit from? you're clearly don't what you're saying....just because the technique was released at that point doesn't mean it's what the tecqhue in order to be release.....please, don't say anything like that again.​

Lol, i can't tell if you either delusional or or just a complete fool.....it took a single page to release Yamata No Jutsu...but here you're are saying Kakashi can use six times Kamui in a single in other words...again, i will say this....be more careful of what you're saying before shooting out this type of nonsense.​

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Chapter 6 page 6....the moment Yamata No Jutsu was release...​

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^Chapter 392 Page 7....the technique was already release in this page and it only has been in a single...but here you saying Kakashi can use 6 times Kamui in that single page....don't ever saying anything like that to anyone else.​

Advice: reread the manga before saying something that is incorrect or you have no prove later to back it up.​

Still? huh, interesting word...i didn't know i underestimated Kakashi....doesn't matter who he went toe to toe....i can sit here and tell who Sasuke went toe to toe but that still isn't going to do him or Kakashi any good against in their fight.​

Okay, but that's still isn't going him against Sasuke without the Kamui...​

It's still enough to give Sasuke the advantage of escaping it....once the Kamui wraps Sasuke....he can use the Chidori Sharp Spear through the ground and escape before his whole body gets wraped...​

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Sasuke still has Manda(who is the same size as Gamabunta) and gamabunta was the same size as the 1st Tail Beast and all tail Beast are the size(which means Kakashi has zero chacne of warping Manda without the Kyuubi's Chakra)....​

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Wow, seriously??

It would take time for Yamata to come out simply because it took time for Sasuke to drain his chakra. He was suppressing Orochimaru with his chakra. Sasuke did not summon Yamata by himself, he could no longer suppress Orochimaru. Therefore, Yamata AND Orochimaru came to the forefront. Also, just incase you say it's not due to Sasukes chakra again, here's your proof.

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Same page you put up, slightly different translation with the same meaning. Look at what Zetzu stated.

"Sasuke tried to forcibly draw out more chakra even though he has none left... so now, with nothing to hold it back. Orochimarus chakra has broken free!"

 

[Takos]

Its sad when people say Kakashi can beat EMS Sasuke.

It's sad when people don't acknowledge what Kamui is capable of.

 

[Optimistic]

It's sad when people don't acknowledge what Kamui is capable of.

Well i guess Kakashi > Madara and Hashirama since Kamui is too fast and they can't counter it.

 

[Nature Sage]

This is about Hebi Sasuke vs Kakashi, not EMS Sasuke vs Kakashi.

 

[Black Wolf]

Kakashi has literally every advantage here. Speed, Taijutsu skill, stronger Raitons, and Suiton that trumps Sasuke's Katon. He has the tactical advantage as well thanks to his shrewd Doton + Kage Bunshin trick combos. Creating a massive lightning source in the presence of another top tier Raiton user isn't wise, and probably won't end well for Sasuke. Kamui isn't even necessary here, honestly.

Kakashi doesn't even come close in speed bud, blind Sasuke was keeping up with Kakashi after CM.

Keeping up? Last time I checked, Sasuke got kicked in the face and immediately opted for Susano'o.

It's not that easy. Considering the fact, Sasuke was able to fight on par with Itachi (even though he wasn't in FP) and Kakashi got soloed with only a Genjutsu.

Oh, I wasn't aware this is a Part I match-up. In that case, Sasuke gets casually hurled into a water container low difficulty.

Current Kakashi's Genjutsu matched Obito's.

Kamui isn't GG cuz Deidara who had no clue, didn't die from it. And we all know Sasuke is brighter than Deidara.

Again, its hilarious how when it comes to Kakashi, people just love using outdated feats. Yes, use Kakashi's very first Kamui feat from several hundred chapters ago instead of his latest accomplishments in the war.

Kakashi warped a BM Naruto that was actively charging and dodging Kamui powered shuriken.

Both have a sharingan and can anticipate movements.
Sasuke is faster. Kakashi is smarter. But Sasuke is still bright.
Sasuke has more stamina. Kakashi falls down after few Raikiri's + KB. Sasuke can end it easily with Kirin.

Again, ignoring current Kakashi's stamina feats.

Sasuke has more stamina? Kakashi used eight Raikiri variants, two Kage Bunshin, a Doton, and five Kamui, one of which was used on a gargantuan object. That dwarfs Hebi Sasuke's chakra usage in the Itachi battle.

 

[Takos]

Well i guess Kakashi > Madara and Hashirama since Kamui is too fast and they can't counter it.

It depends. If they have intel, and Madara more likely than not has intel (knows about Obito's Kamui and saw Kakashi using his version many times), they will hide from Kakashi's sight, for example by creating a forest - with their incredible abilities they can easily kill Kakashi while hiding from sight.

But, if for example Madara doesn't take Kakashi seriosly, just like he was screwing with the kages, then yes, nothing stops Kakashi from kamuing him.

But just because Kakashi can win against them with Kamui doesn't mean he is stronger than them. People often don't understand it and because of it rage when they hear someone like Madara could be kamuied (even though nothing says he couldn't).
A ninja's strength lies not only in a single ability, nor does it depend solely on 1 vs 1 encounters.

For example, Madara could easily win against a bunch of kages at once while Kakashi would obviously be overpowered by a larger group of powerful opponents.

So:
Can Kakashi win against Madara or Hashirama by kamuing them? Depends, but very likely.
Is Kakashi stronger than Madara or Hashirama? No.

This is about Hebi Sasuke vs Kakashi, not EMS Sasuke vs Kakashi.

Indeed, but debating hebi Sasuke is an insult to Kakashi so a more interesting discussion started. U_U

 

[-immortal-]

yet we have still no Feats of how Kakashi beats CM sasuke

step aside

 

[Takos]

Black Wolf said everything what needed to be said.

Hebi Sasuke is not even worth mentioning and when it comes to current Sasuke, they either both die or Kakashi wins.

Simple as that.

 

[Black Wolf]

yet we have still no Feats of how Kakashi beats CM sasuke

step aside

I'll humor you.

Speed: Kakashi kept up with gated Gai and V2 Sharingan Jinchuuriki which were previously running circles around Naruto and Bee.

Taijutsu: A person that regularly spars with the manga's top Taijutsu specialist in addition to having feats of fighting V2 Jinchuuriki is superior to anything Hebi Sasuke has shown. Not to mention Kakashi's Taijutsu score is superior to Sasuke's as well, and Kakashi displayed this when he sent Sasuke flying when Sasuke attempted CQC.

Genjutsu: Kakashi's Genjutsu matched a man who casually controls multiple Bijuu with his Sharingan.

Ninjutsu: Kakashi's Raitons (Raikiri, double Raikiri, Raikiri flow, Raikiri chain, Raikiri wolf) are based on an S-ranked technique whereas Sasuke's are based on an A-ranked technique (Chidori). Sasuke's Katons are useless against Kakashi's Suitons, and Kakashi also has the advantage of trickery, with his Doton + Kage Bunshin feats having worked against insightful Dojutsu users such as Pain and Itachi. Arm snakes serve little purpose against a man that can turn his arm into an electrical chain saw.

Trump cards: Kirin is an extremely situational technique that requires very conspicuous preparation tactics. Furthermore, nothing indicates creating a Raiton source in the presence of a top-tier Raiton user would bode well for Sasuke to begin with. Sure, Kakashi cannot create a Raiton source due to lack of Katon, but nothing dictates he cannot control it if a source already exists. He was able to control Doton and Suiton with an existing source, and those are not even his elemental affinity. Kamui, on the other hand, requires no such prep time. All it requires is a blink.