Obito is the same as naruto

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Well obito didnt give up in his plan meaning that he never go back in his for completing tsukinomi for naruto he never go back on his word for becoming hokage!!!
 

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Well in that case, Obito shouldn't be proud of his ''Ninja way''... and nor should you.
 

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he had his ninja way since he was a kid. he is the older naruto who chose the wrong path
 

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Well he give up the Dream of Becomng Hokage....That Minato...XDXDXD
 

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That's what I enjoy the most about the concept of Obito, the contrast between him and Naruto is the best part of the story at this point I think. Obito shows that anyone is corruptible with the wrong experiences and people around them, and the whole theme of having to endure as shinobi is really highlighted in this way.
 

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No, Obito (atlest his mind) got screwed by madara.. whereas no matter how hard obito tried untill now, even killed neji, Naruto is still in his right mind. They are same in their stupidity and childishness but nothing else.:yeah:.
 

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That's what I enjoy the most about the concept of Obito, the contrast between him and Naruto is the best part of the story at this point I think. Obito shows that anyone is corruptible with the wrong experiences and people around them, and the whole theme of having to endure as shinobi is really highlighted in this way.

Well as far as naruto is concerned he has worst past childhood experiences( along with sasuke, garra) where everyone heated him but he is still sane unlike obito who is doing all this sh*t because rin was killed. Not even tried to find out the reason about her death. Its about how mutch strong your inner willpower is.
 
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Well as far as naruto is concerned he has worst past( along with sasuke, garra) but is still sane. Its about how mutch strong your inner willpower is.

Exactly, it's about enduring as shinobi, one of the themes for this arc, and having the right people around you, all Obito had was Madara.
 

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Exactly, it's about enduring as shinobi, one of the themes for this arc, and having the right people around you, all Obito had was Madara.
No obito was weak. Others can effect you only if you allow them. Obito was foolish to let Rin's death to effect him this much afterall its just a crush..for that stupid reason he was ready to kill his comarades and villagers just so he can live a genjutsu and make whole world suffer because he can't take his crush's death.epic.Selfish..Madara just took his chance.
 

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No obito was weak. Others can effect you only if you allow them. Obito was foolish to let Rin's death to effect him this much afterall its just a crush..for that stupid reason he was ready to kill his comarades and villagers just so he can live a genjutsu and make whole world suffer because he can't take his crush's death.epic.Selfish..Madara just took his chance.

I think you've missed the point of what Obito is trying to do. All Obito had has Madara talking to him for months about the shinobi world being unfair and there being winners and losers, some people having to die for the sake of others. He saw Rin die and started to believe Madara's words. The point of infinite tsukuyomi isn't for people to suffer, it's the opposite, he sees no hope for the world so he wants to change it. That's where the Naruto comparison comes in. When Neji died, Naruto chose to endure the pain of the shinobi world in order to effect change while Obito is trying to deny its existence. Obito's will is not weak, he overcome the Juubi through force of will

This thread should clear thing up a bit more
 
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That's what I enjoy the most about the concept of Obito, the contrast between him and Naruto is the best part of the story at this point I think. Obito shows that anyone is corruptible with the wrong experiences and people around them, and the whole theme of having to endure as shinobi is really highlighted in this way.

Which I really hope is wrong. Naruto should have to suffer just as much as Obito in order to truly prove him wrong. A "hero" shouldn't actually be a hero if under different circumstances, the "hero" would be a villain.

The Problem of Moral Luck is something I find highly disturbing.
 

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Which I really hope is wrong. Naruto should have to suffer just as much as Obito in order to truly prove him wrong. A "hero" shouldn't actually be a hero if under different circumstances, the "hero" would be a villain.

The Problem of Moral Luck is something I find highly disturbing.

That's true, I guess that's what Kishi was attempting to address when he killed Neji, and Obito expected him to fall in to darkness like him. It can't be the same circumstances as the direction of the plot wont allow it, and a more important character would cause even more uproar among fans. It's an interesting concept, but you're right, it's pretty disturbing too.
 
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