People tend to be superficial about fights, ignoring intentions

[SabakuNoGaaraOVZ]

1) Sasuke vs Killer Bee; He intended to capture him, not to kill. Sasuke only used his MS when he was forced to, and when he did, the fight ended in a second. I know that Sasuke didnt really defeat him, but doesnt the fact that killer Bee fled, at least prove that Sasuke is not necessarily weaker than him?

2) Kabuto vs Itachi & Sasuke; No intention of killing him because they wouldnt find out how to stop the edo tensei. Im surprised that people put him high in their top 10 list cus i think he wouldnt last a minute if they intended to kill him. (I might be underrating him though, didnt pay that much attention to their fight tbh).

3) Obito vs Kakashi; Kakashi got kyuubi refills & was fighting dude together with the whole SA, and then people on here say Obito wasnt low on chakra just because he didnt say so -_-

Do you still think Bee>Sasuke & Kabuto>Itachi/Sasuke & Kakashi>Obito (not jinn ofc)??? If yes,, why?

 

[take it easy]

man. kabuto owns itahi three times... only edo save him.

 

[Diottcas]

man. kabuto owns itahi three times... only edo save him.

Itachi was setting up the genjutsu and anybody who is smart would use edo to their advantage. The only way Kabuto could win was if he undid the edo tensei

 

[GrayParadise]

The Kakashi/Obito fight was fair though.

 

[Anonn]

lmao B didn't fled... If you watched/read the entire thing. you know Bee said that, that was his way out of the village cause he wanted to leave. if he wanted he would have stomped sasuke and the whole party.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Kabuto still would have beat Itachi or Sasuke 1 vs 1 because of Sound Genjutsu.

 

[Punk Hazard]

The Kakashi/Obito fight was fair though.

LOL, no it was't. Kakashi was replenished by Kurama and Obito was weakened from controlling the Juubi and fighting for so long.

 

[GrayParadise]

LOL, no it was't. Kakashi was replenished by Kurama and Obito was weakened from controlling the Juubi and fighting for so long.

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[Anonn]

sasuke wank thread. oh and I believe kakashi has been fighting for way longer then obito.

 

[Diottcas]

Kabuto still would have beat Itachi or Sasuke 1 vs 1 because of Sound Genjutsu.

Once again people oversimplifying fights

 

[Gerkak]

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Lol you're right kakashi solo'd him.

 

[Gerkak]

LOL, no it was't. Kakashi was replenished by Kurama and Obito was weakened from controlling the Juubi and fighting for so long.

Obito showed no fatigue at all. kakashi won that's all.

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[GrayParadise]

Obito showed no fatigue at all. kakashi won that's all.

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Not only that, but Kakashi tanked that shit like a man.
Obito like always, ran away.

 

[slimreaper]

Kabuto still would have beat Itachi or Sasuke 1 vs 1 because of Sound Genjutsu.

so tayuya beats itachi and sasuke?

 

[Gerkak]

Not only that, but Kakashi tanked that shit like a man.
Obito like always, ran away.

Lol even with senju DNA and rinnegan kamuiless Obito<Kakashi. If kakashi had senju DNA he would have ended the war.

 

[ElementNami92]

Kabuto>Itachi and Sasuke.
Why? Kabuto didn't intend to kill Sasuke either. He wanted to continue what Orochimaru was doing. Dont get me wrong, I like Itachi better than Kabuto anyday. But there is a reason kabuto is so high on peoples top ten. He can be immune to Genjutsu, Sense oncoming danger, is incredibly fast, sound genjutsu, Orochimarus white snake jutsu, Kidomarus web jutsu. People underestimate how OP He is. It's not even funny how strong he is :|

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

1. Yes Bee was stronger. After being wrecked early on, Suigetsu recommends going with a killing intent...something Sasuke seemingly agrees with or else he'd have states no. Even if you do mot buy that, when he does use Amaterasu, it wasn't done with the intent of KOing Bee but to literally kill him in order to save Karin, Juugo, and Suigetsu. And immediately afterwards he was tires to the point of collapsing while Bee had practically all of his stamina meaning he could have just speed blitzed them in an ambush or gone BM once more...Sasuke was practically done.

The only reason he didn't was because Bee could use it to help himself escape Kumo to go explore.


2. They couldn't kill Kabuto because of Kabuto's power. His Edo Tensei is his own trump card technique. The need to not kill Kabuto was established by Kabuto as his own move. They had a choice to kill him, but did not because of his Edo tensei.

Furthermore,.Kabuto placed three kill shots on Itachi, and one of which would have ended with him being re-written had Sasuke not been there. Plus who's to say why can't Kabuto just summon his entire Edo Army...the fact he was basically soloing the Narutoverse makes the scales against Kabuto.


3. Agreed.


But in addition, Obito always fought using Kamui. Meaning to say, he revolved his style around it. As such fighting in an unfamiliar style (without Kamui) he starts at a disadvantage. Then you add on without Kamui he cannot use his ranbu no bakuffu or throw out his weapons (giant shuriken)...he's lost two powerful weapons.

Kakashi was clearly better in practical combat so being kicked out of his usual style was game over for him...but it didn't mean Kakashi > Obito....it isn't true.

 

[Diottcas]

so tayuya beats itachi and sasuke?

Tayuya genjutsu would useless on Itachi just like Kurenai's. That is the only thing people say when Kabuto and Itachi fight is the sound genjutsu

 

[Exaar]

1) Sasuke vs Killer Bee; He intended to capture him, not to kill. Sasuke only used his MS when he was forced to, and when he did, the fight ended in a second. I know that Sasuke didnt really defeat him, but doesnt the fact that killer Bee fled, at least prove that Sasuke is not necessarily weaker than him?

2) Kabuto vs Itachi & Sasuke; No intention of killing him because they wouldnt find out how to stop the edo tensei. Im surprised that people put him high in their top 10 list cus i think he wouldnt last a minute if they intended to kill him. (I might be underrating him though, didnt pay that much attention to their fight tbh).

3) Obito vs Kakashi; Kakashi got kyuubi refills & was fighting dude together with the whole SA, and then people on here say Obito wasnt low on chakra just because he didnt say so -_-

Do you still think Bee>Sasuke & Kabuto>Itachi/Sasuke & Kakashi>Obito (not jinn ofc)??? If yes,, why?

For Bee Vs taka.
Taka was fighting with intent to kill

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Kabuto > Itachi/Sasuke. Without his Edo body itachi would've died and sasuke would have followed, Kabuto could simply just reverse summon his Edo's if he really wanted to dig the knife in. You also seem to forget kabuto has no intent on killing either.
He wanted to capture Sasuke alive and he wanted to regain controll of itachi.

It's obvious a full strength obito > Kakashi

 

[Gerkak]

Tayuya genjutsu would useless on Itachi just like Kurenai's. That is the only thing people say when Kabuto and Itachi fight is the sound genjutsu

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I don't think it was useless here^^^^