Could Jiraya really have soloed itachi and kisame?

Mrmojo8484

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I've been wondering this.

So I did some research. Kisame himself said he was no match for him. Itachi also stated a best case scenario would be for both of them to die, killing him as well.

My conclusion: Jiraya would have soloed them....here's so facts:

Kisame

Pretty much any water attacks will be countered by Road oil flame bullets. This sage jutsu is a mixture of wind,fire and toad oil....which is pretty combustible like grease. What happens when water hits a grease fire?

He also can make a lake of burning hot toad oil with this attack as he did to pein.

Taijutsu vs taijutsu Kisame loses. Jiraya is to fast in sage mode and hit one of peins bodies hard enough to knock him out 1 time.
He can also create a expanding barrier to detect attacks in a radius much like he did vs prob.

It it is my belief that jirayas genjutsu would destroy kisame.

Itachi

As far as base fire jutsus, jiraya has the upper hand since roads can spit oil increasing the power of the flames.

Itachis best bet would be tsukyomi but since ma and pa frogs are needed to go into sage mode any genjutsu is rendered useless.

As for amateratsu, jiraya would need a 2 step plan to counter it. First, he would need to cover himself in his hair with needle jizo, then use the sage art: hair sonbon to shoot off the flaming pieces. And again, his barrier hirsute would help him detect this attack.

If things get tough, jiraya still has 2 ways to win this fight.

1. Sage art: frog song....I do not believe kisame or itachi can counter this. Yes it's genjutsu and itachi is the master of genjutsu but
there are 2 things to take into account here. 1. This IS NOT a visual genjutsu. 2. We have learned that sage techs don't work like anything else.

2. Reverse summoning toad gourd. All he has to do is reverse summon them one at a time inside the aciditic belly of this frog....in which he has the advantage.

Thoughts?
 

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of course the J-man would solo both without breaking a sweat :win:
 

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Lol Hell no... Itachi didnt want to kill a leaf ninja. hence why he let kakashi live after Tsukiyomi. he sparred jiraiya and kakashi
 

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Dude. The manga was talking about how Itachi feared fighting the Kyuubi in Naruto, not Jiraiya.
 

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In part 1 the strength of each character was a lot different since they hadn't gone through their time skip power ups yet. We never really saw Kisame fight in part 1 so it's hard to judge his abilities. Itachi stated he had used his eyes to much and was running out of chakra already so I think there was a good chance Jiraiya could have beaten both of them.
 

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itachi solos, kisame solos.
 
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I dunno this kind of thing usually happens to let the viewer get a feel on how powerful someone really is but it's not always true
 

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Funny thing is, when Itachi was saying the best we could do is stalemate even with back-up or lose, he was talking about Kurama, not J-Man.
 

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besides frong song genjutsu i dont see how jiraya bypasses susano. your counter for amaterasu wont work, jiraya cant pssibly remove all his hair. jiraya really wont have time to summon sages when fighting agains itachi, and if he gets hit by tsukiyomi the sages will be useless as it can kill within a sec, too fast for the sages to dispell it.
 

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J-man was an old boss in part 1. We felt like Naruto was highly protected with him . After pain killed him we all fought about this part lmao. But honestly I do not see Jman beating both.
 

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I don't believe he would have solo'd them both. Best possible outcome, stalemate. Tsukuyomi useless? 3 days of torture where Itachi controls everything and its only seconds in the real world. Jiraiya can't counter that nor can ma and pa pull him out of it in time U_U
 

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True that so this just makes me wish that Jiraiya was still with us and wasn't so stubborn to choose death
 

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Lol Hell no... Itachi didnt want to kill a leaf ninja. hence why he let kakashi live after Tsukiyomi. he sparred jiraiya and kakashi

This^^^^^^^ Itachi could have killed kakashi easily, and I believe him when he says that a fight with Jiraiya, would be a fight to the death, but I doubt any type of genjutsu, sound, sight, touch, or smell would work on itachi
 

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do you comprehend what you read?

it's pretty obvious Itachi didn't want to fight Jiraiya not b/c he would've lost but b/c he didn't want to kill/fight Jiraiya or capture Naruto
 

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Hard fight I think
Pt 1 Jman vs Pt 1 Itachi and Pt 1 Kisame
Jman wins easy
Pt 2 Jman vs Pt 2 Itachi and P 2 Kisame
I can't see Jiraiya winning against, both at once, now he could seperate them with this reverse summoning, but he would have to find that opening against these skilled shinobi, but i think if Jman was given time to use honored sm and could use his toad summons and could out last Itachi forcing him to waste energy turning susanoo on and off, Jman could win, but he would be very close to dying.
 

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Jiraya solos with quality these f@ggots.
 
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