Madara's trump card

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Supposedly, the beast dies as well and it gets revived some time later but I can't really see what possible connection can this have to my theory.
well i think it does....because it could provide a hint whether rin was a jinchurikki or not....if she was a jinchurikki and when jinchurikkis die the beasts escape then that didn't happen....so she may have been lying about being a jin indeed....if she was lying then should could have been a zetsu....
when a jin reaches a near-death situation (like kushina did) then the seal weakens and the beast can escape (like kurama did from kushina)....we dont see the same thing happening with rin.....
 

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Hm.. Looks pretty good to me.
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thank, that's good.
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well i think it does....because it could provide a hint whether rin was a jinchurikki or not....if she was a jinchurikki and when jinchurikkis die the beasts escape then that didn't happen....so she may have been lying about being a jin indeed....if she was lying then should could have been a zetsu....
when a jin reaches a near-death situation (like kushina did) then the seal weakens and the beast can escape (like kurama did from kushina)....we dont see the same thing happening with rin.....
No as I said the beasts die as well but they get revived. That was also the reason it wasn't set free immediately after Rin's death. Besides, there in point in making theories of whether Rin was a jin or not. Obito said it himslef while he was fighting kakashi. Mst probably once Rin was dead, Obito took control of 3 tails and later sealed it to a controlled 4th Mizuakge.
 

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If rin is madara's trump card I will loose the interest in Naruto manga. I want it to be some tools or techniques used by so6p. But nice thread.
 
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Very interesting twist that would definitely effect Obito.

Of course this could lead to his comeback or being TNJ'd by Naruto as he decides to believe in the Rin he knew.




Unlikely, but certainly a cool read.
 

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If rin is madara's trump card I will loose the interest in Naruto manga. I want it to be some tools or techniques used by so6p. But nice thread.
I know wha you mean but on the other hand Madara using techniques which would be able to overwhelm th jin of 10 tails would be really an a**pull. Juubi's power is ovwhelming for a reason, it wouldn't be cool if someone can keep up with it without something really special.
Very interesting twist that would definitely effect Obito.

Of course this could lead to his comeback or being TNJ'd by Naruto as he decides to believe in the Rin he knew.


Yea =h I also believee that it's unlikely, but I wouldn't want to see Madara with some super hax abilities which would prove sufficient ex machina, against !0 tails jin.


Unlikely, but certainly a cool read.
Thanks btw=D
 

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Interesting theory man. Hmm..trying to come up flaws in your theory but its pretty hard. Haha

But what I want to know if Madara does actually posses such a power to create a girl with a personality and stuff. Thats like god status.

Although it was fun to read, I think the probability of this happening is quite low. But hey it's Kishi..who knows.
 

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Interesting theory man. Hmm..trying to come up flaws in your theory but its pretty hard. Haha

But what I want to know if Madara does actually posses such a power to create a girl with a personality and stuff. Thats like god status.

Although it was fun to read, I think the probability of this happening is quite low. But hey it's Kishi..who knows.
Well the fact that he has such an ability does not make him a god for the simple fact that in order to use Yin-Yang release, you have to use Izanagi and that comes at the cost of a sharingan so it's quite limited
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So Rin is obviously the motivator of Obito, yet if Madara reveals he tricked him using Rin, wouldn't Obito go berserk and find a new motivation aka KILL MADARA ?
 

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So Rin is obviously the motivator of Obito, yet if Madara reveals he tricked him using Rin, wouldn't Obito go berserk and find a new motivation aka KILL MADARA ?
Not really, yes it might be a possiblity but the psycological turmoil in which he'll be put can cause him to loose his calm composure and therefore he'll be left vulnerable either for Madara or Juubi who will try to take advantage of that loss of composure and his feelings of despair and anger. Don't forget that Naruto at the beginning was also loosing his control exactly because of his anger or despair. The same situation will be applied here as welll.
 
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Boom as expected you always deliver the goods :D i really liked this theory bro! Not far fetched at all! You're really something, keep it up!!
 
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Seriously, this counts ;) This was a very good read. I too believe that it is possible. But there's something I don't understand, if Madara picked Obito that beforehand then why he went through the trouble of finding Nagato and gave him his own eyes. If that was the case then he could have given Obito his Rinnegan (Not that Obito would have needed it). I believe that Madara chose Obito in that fateful moment...Just think of it,when a rock comes crashing upon you,our eyes get closed subconsciously,so how the hell did he perform his doujutsu with his eyes closed? I think this very incident made a permanent mark on Madara and he chose him at that spot! And all this, with one eye..... Now also think this, if Madara planned it all from the very beginning, then why did he take such a risky plan? Obito could have died! And everyone wants a powerful pawn, why did he let him sacrifice one of his eyes when Madara himself stated that to use the full power of the sharingan,two eyes are needed,and why would he chose a handicapped pawn?? It is certainly plausible that the Uchiha and Senju were created by COAT,though I don't believe in this viewpoint(Its my personal opinion),but still we don't have conclusive proof about that..

And last but not the least, I am very much happy with this thread,as a fellow theorist! A certified S-rank thread ;) This deserves a two-thumbs up(sorry, I couldn't find the emoticon....).......
 

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Seriously, this counts ;) This was a very good read. I too believe that it is possible. But there's something I don't understand, if Madara picked Obito that beforehand then why he went through the trouble of finding Nagato and gave him his own eyes. If that was the case then he could have given Obito his Rinnegan (Not that Obito would have needed it). I believe that Madara chose Obito in that fateful moment...Just think of it,when a rock comes crashing upon you,our eyes get closed subconsciously,so how the hell did he perform his doujutsu with his eyes closed? I think this very incident made a permanent mark on Madara and he chose him at that spot! And all this, with one eye..... Now also think this, if Madara planned it all from the very beginning, then why did he take such a risky plan? Obito could have died! And everyone wants a powerful pawn, why did he let him sacrifice one of his eyes when Madara himself stated that to use the full power of the sharingan,two eyes are needed,and why would he chose a handicapped pawn?? It is certainly plausible that the Uchiha and Senju were created by COAT,though I don't believe in this viewpoint(Its my personal opinion),but still we don't have conclusive proof about that..

And last but not the least, I am very much happy with this thread,as a fellow theorist! A certified S-rank thread ;) This deserves a two-thumbs up(sorry, I couldn't find the emoticon....).......
Glad you liked itxd Well he might have given it to Nagato for many different reasons. For instance if the theory about the sage being uzumaki is correct then only an uzumaki would have been able to unlock its full potential. As for trying to take Obito before he gives away his other eye you have to understand that madara himself was weak and his zetsu were no better. In fact only their existence would cause chaos if they were to be connected with Hashirama senju. Also, don't forget that Nagato was born in a weak and nearly eliminated nation that didn't pose any threat and in which his eyes would remain a secret. Therefore Nagato was an unknown kid. On the other hand, Obito was living in Konoha a big village which wouldn't leave such an event passed without trying to search for the responsible one. The risk would be too great if they were to find madara. However, when Obito died, he was like a living ghost and therefore he wouldn't pose a similar threat. A last point about zetsu's incapacity to take obito as a newborn is the fac that zetsu himself can travel through the ground but not with another thing.

read half and my mind was blown possible though
I'm glad to hear it, about the mind blown thing:O
 
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