Then he takes out V1 Susano and smashes the orb, whichever level he can activate as fasts as lightning U_U And all minato needs is a kunai ..Your saying that he has time to use WR and then activate Jirobo's dna to block line of site? that also takes time ..less time then AmertarasuHe'd have to activate his level 4 Susanoo, take out Totsuka, and then slash it to be able to accomplish this, too bad it'd activate long before that ever became a factor.
lol? Since when could he call his level 4 Susanoo instantly? Not to mention he still has to take out Totsuka.
lol? Really? Minato has to get to the wall, touch it and teleport it away, by then the dragon has exploded and they are immobilized.
lol, get turnt up.
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Lmfao. Flawed from the start.
-White Rage causes the bones to rub up against each other preventing movement and numbing the body, it releases blinding light and a loud ass sound that impairs hearing and vision. Its clear that Edos are not only resistant to pain, they have no bones or that damage to them causes them no hindrance as Itachi
-Not to mention its illogical to think Itachi is magically resistant to it while Sasuke was completely vulnerable to it. Its obvious that being an Edo let him do that, he is alive here.
I agree that there is a time duration otherwise Kabuto wouldn't have turned it off if it was up to him, but it really doesn't matter since they have nowhere to escape to in order to wait it out.
And yes, Itachi has the bigger variant but that is only 3 of them combined, so it'll only do 3 times the damage, still nowhere near enough to destroy the cave. Again, also not before White Rage goes off.
Um, Kabuto isn't using it at the same time as Amaterasu, he senses the chakra build up and then does it, even then he still has Muki Tensei which requires a clap of the hands on the ground. If he was using it at the same time then your point would be valid, but he isn't so its not.
Yes, Muki Tensei does cover
Even if Minato can spread Kunai and markings around the cave, what happens when Kabuto transforms the cave so that there is nowhere Minato can teleport to due to a lack of space? Well, even if this isn't possible, it won't stop White Rage from ending this.
Itachi was an Edo. That is the only reason he was able to move during White Rage.
-White Rage causes the bones to rub up against each other preventing movement and numbing the body, it releases blinding light and a loud ass sound that impairs hearing and vision. Its clear that Edos are not only resistant to pain, they have no bones or that damage to them causes them no hindrance as Itachi
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-Not to mention its illogical to think Itachi is magically resistant to it while Sasuke was completely vulnerable to it. Its obvious that being an Edo let him do that, he is alive here.
Uh..nope. Light and Sound and the Vibrations would bounce off the cave walls with ease, just how you hear an echo when you yell in a cave, and the effects would still reach them, there is no where they can run in order to escape the technique. Not to mention he can use Muki Tensei
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and close off any route of escape for them.I agree that there is a time duration otherwise Kabuto wouldn't have turned it off if it was up to him, but it really doesn't matter since they have nowhere to escape to in order to wait it out.
Yasaka Magatama hit the sealing of the cave and
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Yasaka Magatama are never destroying the cave, ever. Especially not before White Rage goes off.And yes, Itachi has the bigger variant but that is only 3 of them combined, so it'll only do 3 times the damage, still nowhere near enough to destroy the cave. Again, also not before White Rage goes off.
LMAO! You might wanna hop in that casket yourself.
He'd have to run to the orb, and grab it,
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so what makes you think that he'll be able to come in close range of the orb and then grab it and smash it? What makes you think Kabuto would let him do this?Um, Kabuto isn't using it at the same time as Amaterasu, he senses the chakra build up and then does it, even then he still has Muki Tensei which requires a clap of the hands on the ground. If he was using it at the same time then your point would be valid, but he isn't so its not.
If he throws the Kunai before, then Kabuto can just get out of the area of the Kunai and then proceed to activate Muki Tensei. If he throws them during Muki Tensei, then he can block the Kunai using the structures he controls with Muki Tensei, or he can stop Muki Tensei and use Suiton, which can also be used before Muki Tensei as well.
Yes, Muki Tensei does cover
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. Kabuto only chose not to manipulate the area around him since it wasn't necessary.Even if Minato can spread Kunai and markings around the cave, what happens when Kabuto transforms the cave so that there is nowhere Minato can teleport to due to a lack of space? Well, even if this isn't possible, it won't stop White Rage from ending this.
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Susanoo's arms don't extend at an unlimited length now do they? So he'd still have to get to the orb. And again, what makes you think Kabuto will watch him do this? lmao, please.
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The cave clearly hastheir in a caveso they don't have to extend much farther
And what's Kabuto going to do? the arms bust through all of jirobo's rock, and the dragon will already be heading towards them
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in it and Kabuto doesn't need to send the dragon right at them, he doesn't need to send it anywhere near them, don't even know where you got that from. Look
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and tell me if there is any sign of the dragon and the orb. (It might not be visible due to the bad quality of the scan, but that doesn't change my point in the slightest.)Itachi isn't getting to anything before it goes off.
Lets see. He can use webs to buy time, he can use Doroku Gaeshi to create a large gash in the ground to buy time. Its not like he needs to buy time anyway.
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I merely meant it expels from Kakuzu's and moves Closer to them even if only a little bit
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Webs? Holding Back Chakra not to mention Itachi can sprout more arms, and if he fires webs Itachi uses Amertarasu to attack the orb instead, which he would have charged up from the beginning of the fight really, as he has intel and Itachi is intelligent enough to do so, So Kabuto's sensing does not help him here,
Pretty much a Susanoo feign sort of would work here, fake like he's using the arms of the susanoo too lure Kabuto into not using Jirobo, then frying the orb ...
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It's no use if its not close enough so it really doesn't matter if it moves in their general direction.
Uh? What? Itachi and Sasuke and Madara have only shown to sprout ONE Susanoo arm without using a higher level. Not two, so Itachi can't do it.
Um, if he uses
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to cover White Rage, then Itachi would have to fry the web as its blocking his LoS to the White Dragon. Any reason you have for the webs being ineffective to block one Susanoo arm? Its clear that you can't cut through them so smashing through them isn't an option either. (Not with a Susanoo hand far too small)-So Itachi is going to charge up Amaterasu based on the fact he knows Kabuto could use White Rage? And what if he decides not to use White Rage? What then? Yeah, not happening, even if it did, its a terrible move.
-He's going to do a feint where he has to finish off with Amaterasu despite Kabuto being able to sense the build up of chakra and act before hand? lol...Why would he neglect using Jirobo to block Itachi even if he decides to use a Susanoo hand? The point is to buy time (Which is only a few seconds), not to completely stop Itachi.
Not to mention nothing you said is happening before the White Rage goes off anyway. It doesn't matter if Itachi gets past the things listed above cause once the orb goes off, its over.
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.-It goes
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.Diversions and Hindrances can be used if needed.
-GG Team one.
Its funny you think any of this can happen before the orb goes off despite him not even being able to run to Sasuke from
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Bro..you do realize that you only have to charge amertarasu once tou se it for a whole fight right? lol, you don't have to keep charging it
He can charge up in the beginning and use it throughout the fight..assuming this is not sick itachi..All i'm saying that is going to happen is
Itachi Activates susano'o which is as fast as lightning as feats show
He then begins to rush towards the dragon and fires in the same movement
In fact i really don't see Kabuto being able to do anything to hinder shit... As kido still has to charge up webs btw,
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there is no such thing as a healthy Itachi. The first time Itach used Amaterasu the side effects were great. Therefore, him using Amaterasu more than once successfully is highly unlikely, especially if he is having to defend himself.Bro..you do realize that you only have to charge amertarasu once tou se it for a whole fight right? lol, you don't have to keep charging it
He can charge up in the beginning and use it throughout the fight..assuming this is not sick itachi..All i'm saying that is going to happen is
Itachi Activates susano'o which is as fast as lightning as feats show
He then begins to rush towards the dragon and fires in the same movement
In fact i really don't see Kabuto being able to do anything to hinder shit... As kido still has to charge up webs btw,
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lol Kabuto can simply throw White Rage in the opposite direction, out of Itachi's reach. herpaderp
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How does that impact anything I have said? Whether he charges it once or twice really doesn't matter as Kabuto can sense it the first time and act accordingly by blocking LoS via Muki Tensei or Jirobo. There will be no second time cause White Rage ends it after he uses the first one.Bro..you do realize that you only have to charge amertarasu once tou se it for a whole fight right? lol, you don't have to keep charging it
He can charge up in the beginning and use it throughout the fight..assuming this is not sick itachi..All i'm saying that is going to happen is
Itachi Activates susano'o which is as fast as lightning as feats show
He then begins to rush towards the dragon and fires in the same movement
In fact i really don't see Kabuto being able to do anything to hinder shit... As kido still has to charge up webs btw,
You say he'll use Amaterasu to fry the dragon (The first time) despite me already countering him using amaterasu on the orb the first time, multiple times. Amaterasu isn't hitting shit. Period.
lol? He can't?
Altering the terrain via Doroku Gaeshi or Muki Tensei is a hindrance, blocking off his path is a hindrance, webs that cause him to stop and use Amaterasu to burn them down, is a hindrance. Kabuto can hinder him.
Or Kabuto can prepare the webs (If they do need to be charged up, don't feel like going back to check) and use White Rage afterwards, or use them at the same time since Sakon's ability essentially clones him.
LMAO! This. He doesn't need to send it right after him, he didn't even do that in the manga as Itachi had to run towards the orb.
No the first time he used Amertarasu he was basically just tired
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Notice how none of his eyes were injured like they were against Sasuke,
Against Sasuke on his death bed, he used A great deal of Amertarasu, Tsukuyomi, and V4 susano'o ...
even if its early sickness Itachi, he can use the MS techniques in much more quantity then that ..which is surely enough
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Again he's not ****ing doing all that before Amertarasu ...U_U Muki Tensei < Amertarsu in speed once again ... Honestly i have no clue why you think he can even pull off White Rage before Itachi uses Amertarasu
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lol, what the hell are you talking about? He can sense meaning he knows when Itachi has built up his Amaterasu so he can act accordingly before he uses it not while he uses it so it doesn't matter if Amaterasu can be used faster than Muki Tensei is used as he can act BEFORE Itachi does, not when he does. All you're doing is repeating stuff that has already been countered.
-He senses it.
-Makes his defenses.
It doesn't matter when Itachi uses it or not cause once Kabuto has made his defenses he's scewed.
Are you kidding me ? Why would he use Amaterasu BEFORE White Rage is used when the whole point of Amaterasu is to counter White Rage? And please don't tell me that "he is going to use it before White Rage is activated" cause once again, its been countered several times in this thread.
The hindrances are only to be used if Itachi decides to run toward the orb and smash it, like YOU said, or did you forget?
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White Rage is effortlessly countered by Yata no Kagami. Not even sure how he's dodging Amaterasu.
or Itachi just Izanami's him again.
or Itachi just Izanami's him again.