EMS Sasuke > SM Naruto

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Sasuke's enton arrow was counted by a dying, standing still man using 3 chakra rods. They're not affecting SM Naruto.

No, it was countered by Madara.
 

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i cant believe you took that lil gurl serious..

MS sasuke>SM naruto

so

EMS sasuke>>Sm naruto

you know and i know it so that s enuff right?
 

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MS Sasuke>SM Naruto.

The only attack that can even hope of damaging Sasuke's level 4 Susanoo is Naruto's FRS. Except, Naruto only has 3 FRS to fire and Enton easily counters FRS by consuming it and making a bigger flame The FRS is completely gone so than is BS about it being made stronger by the Enton and being a danger to Sasuke is false. It'll get consumed by the flame and turned on Naruto instead, which can later be used to take care of any clones. (Via Kagutsuchi)

V2 Susanoo was able to block off the majority of Kirin's damage, Sasuke's level 4 Susanoo easily tanks that. Even if someone wants to come here saying that FRS cut the Juubi's tails (Which is false, besides, flesh is more prone to cutting and slicing than it is to explosive damage) Its not like FRS will ever hit Susanoo anyway.

No Rasengan of any kind is getting past a level 4 Susanoo or even damaging it, not in a million years so no one mention that either. Not when Kyuubi took more visible damage from FRS, not when FRS is his strongest jutsu.

Toad Summons are completely useless as they get casually one shotted by Enton projectiles. (Which Sasuke can shoot from his level 4 Susanoo due to the Amaterasu orb being present)

No one mention Ma and Pa cause even if Naruto can summon them, we've already seen that it took Jiraiya a whole chapter to call on them, and he had to have his hands clapped together. That leaves him vulnerable to Amaterasu as he would have zero defenses capable of making a difference.

Naruto either ends up getting hit by Amaterasu or he gets hit by an arrow after Sage Mode runs out either due to the 5 minute limit or his FRS limit.

I want everyone to take a nice look at this post.
 

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Sasuke's enton arrow was counted by a dying, standing still man using 3 chakra rods. They're not affecting SM Naruto.

it was madara not obito that reacted. and if the chakra rods weren't special then why did the enton arrow react like this when touched

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and not react the same way when when cutting a juubi clone?

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Please explain, yeah mere chakra rods my ass
 

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Your arguments are shit i countered the summonings,FRS and all your other garbage yet your still wanking one move.
Susano'o can tank FRS anyway but using enton is more proficient your going against what the manga states.

No point in replying to scrubs who can't comprehend common sense.

You truly are retarded. I'm not wanking the move, you just don't have one single counter to the move because it's ignited by amaterasu.
 

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I want everyone to take a nice look at this post.

i got and even better one

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anyone who says otherwise must be fanboying
 

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Your arguments are shit.

No point in replying to scrubs who can't comprehend common sense.


lawl plus rep. you right

any futher replying will result with a infrac for going off on the scrub/troll
 

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You truly are retarded. I'm not wanking the move, you just don't have one single counter to the move because it's ignited by amaterasu.

1.If i'm a retard what the hell are you then? a demented person who was dropped as a baby????
2.I did post counters other people posted counters heck Deva Path was able to flawlessly dodge FRS and yet you still on about it.

Don't reply to me if you ain't got things worth reading.

lawl plus rep. you right

any futher replying will result with a infrac for going off on the scrub/troll
Its my last post this time i mean it.Lol
 

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1.If i'm a retard what the hell are you then? a demented person who was dropped as a baby????
2.I did post counters other people posted counters heck Deva Path was able to flawlessly dodge FRS and yet you still on about it.

Don't reply to me if you ain't got things worth reading.

First you say Sasuke easily tanks FRS, and then you say he dodges it, alright then.
 

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Not to mention FRS couldn't even cut the 3rd Raikage in his Raiton Armor. You'd have to be on some really powerful drugs if you think it'll cut through a level 4 Susanoo.
 

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First you say Sasuke easily tanks FRS, and then you say he dodges it, alright then.
You lost this debate/discussion/argument the moment i shat on the FRS 1 shotting Sasuke nonsense.If your gonna wank over Naruto at least know about Naruto himself.Gotta love these noobs smh.
 

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how hasn't kabuto perfected his? he didn't even need to be still to absorb naruto chakra. they aren't comparable. please explain the difference. both madara and sasuke have the same dojutsu, while naruto and kabuto have different sage modes.

naruto doesn't have the reaction feats to dodge arrows. just because he dodged the raikage when he had prep time you think he can dodge the fastest projectile in the manga base on his own reaction? not to mention sasuke can fire multiple at once, and if sasuke gets on his hawk its over. tell me when SM naruto can keep up with Sasuke and Itachi

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MS sasuke>naruto

Take a look at Naruto sm, he only has small markings on his eye compared to Jiriya who takes on toad features and needs the toads attached to him. Kabuto's is a lot similar to Jiriya's as he has to rely on the snake attached to him and has snake features.

Sasuke and Madara having the same ms argument is dumb. Not bothering same level eyes =/= same level feats shown by the clear difference in ems Madara's strength.

Naruto doesn't have reaction feats to dodge an arrow? I've given you the feat, I've shown they can be avoided at point blank by Kabuto(due to his sensing ability) which Naruto's shown better feats, country wide sensing.
 

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:hi: Hello! Thanks to AGoodBoy for letting me use his post to make my thread. His post gave me this idea.

Naruto vs Pain: You all use this argument like, EMS Sasuke wouldn't beat Pein, but i say otherwise; if he had the same amount of PNJ as Naruto he would win. Pain didn't aim to kill him, just to capture him, so you can say he held back a little. The only reason he won was Jiraya's intel. Without it, Pain would own him + he got saved by Kurama, mostly.

He also injured 3rd raikage(not a kill) and injured Obito(with FTG help). Oh, and fought the kyuubi in his head with help from Bee and Kushina.

On the other hand, MS Sasuke fought Danzo, despite the lack of intel and not being at 100%, because Kishi made him fight 4 Kages in about half an hour. Still, even if Kishi paired him up with the much stronger and more oponents, he pulled it off. Gave trouble to Garaa and his team, killed a couple samurai and made Raikage cut his arm. He soloed Danzo about ten times, soloed his summon, and broke out of that move- restriction mark Danzo placed of him. I think it was a good fight, Sasuke won fair and square. And don't bring up KA. Fight with KA is not a fight. Right after the fight, came Sakura, making him remember her love confesion. I personaly believe Sasuke felt her intentions, and he felt betrayed that she brought that up as she was about to kill him, that's why he acted crazy against them, nevertheless, he would still beat Kakashi and Sakura. The guy fought 7 (not including kage bodyguards and Sakura) OP characters in only a couple of hours. + he was blind against Kakashi, Naruto and Sakura. :hint:

After he got the EMS, he soloed Zetsu, and his clones in about 5 seconds. Then, helped Itachi defeat Kabuto, and even saved him a couple of times. Without him reviving Oro, SA would be screwed. Then, he soloed Juubi clones and injured the Juubi with the help of KCM Naruto.

So, it's clear, MS>SM. Naruto always had the assistance of someone, while Sasuke soloed even with 0 intel.

Oh, and i'm not saying Sasuke > Naruto. I know Naruto is stronger right now, until Sasuke gets the powerup, that is. Then they're gonna be equals. Don't get me wrong, i like Naruto and all, he's a great character, i'm just saying MS Sasuke has more feats than SM Naruto. :)

Thanks for the reading. And i'll add the manga scans if needed. xd


*Sigh Where do I begin?

1. He decimated 5 of Pain's bodies at full power and later went head to head with Deva Path and was winning, not something to laugh at.

2. Your point about Obito was valid but not the raikage example. He flat out beat him in SM.

3. You're forgetting Sasuke was healed by Karin and had some rest in Obito's dimension.

4. Only blind against Sakura and Naruto, and he didn't go into a full on fight with either. He had eyesight when he fought Kakashi. He even had susanoo. Kakashi was weakened after using kamui to counter his arrow, so by the time Sasuke was blind, they stopped actually fighting. On top of this, he was healed by Karin before he fought Kakashi. So Sasuke wasn't at a disadvantage against Kakashi.

5. SM=MS. I know people are going to abuse this.
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However, Naruto previously said that they'd both die if they fought. This scan confirms it because a tie is when neither side can truly beat the other aka "both dieing". EMS>SM It's likely.
 

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First you say Sasuke easily tanks FRS, and then you say he dodges it, alright then.

he has the option to do either. if Frs could break susanoo why did they bother pulling madara out?

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You lost this debate/discussion/argument the moment i shat on the FRS 1 shotting Sasuke nonsense.If your gonna wank over Naruto at least know about Naruto himself.Gotta love these noobs smh.


I don't wank over him dumbass. I simply think SM Naruto is slightly stronger than MS Sasuke, nothing to get butthurt about.
 

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he has the option to do either. if Frs could break susanoo why did they bother pulling madara out?

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That was Garra's doing, not Naruto's. Garra has never seen the effects of ransenshuriken in his life, so he was playing it safe like a true strategist. I doubt Danzo's wind style enhanced by his summons> SM enhanced ransenshuriken.
 

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I pop back into this thread and the naruto wanking is over 9000.

"It doesn't matter if sasuke engages naruto in taijutsu, he'd be hit with frog kata"
Yea, because sasuke can't paralyse naruto with , nor does he primarily use kenjutsu these days[ ][ ][ ][ ][ ][ ].
Naruto can come engage in CQC with frog kumite all he wants, i hope he enjoys to a raiton powered sword.
But, hey, i guess if naruto gets the sword out of his hands it's all good. Not like he can .

When comes out, let alone ? Oh boy... Good bye naruto.

But, assuming he gets past all of this, there's still to shit on him.

3 Tomoe CS Sasuke is hard enough for naruto, MS is overkill. Narutard fapboys need to calm down and except undeniable fact. MS Sasuke > SM NAruto
 

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Thanks for Sasuke For Saving Naruto's life

he didn't stab his Heart in Purpose

Without Kyubi Chakra Naruto is a Fodder , and even with that he Got Owned ..

Sasuke > Naruto

For the record, he was aiming for Naruto's heart. Naruto just made him miss. Fail attempt to bash.
 

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Take a look at Naruto sm, he only has small markings on his eye compared to Jiriya who takes on toad features and needs the toads attached to him. Kabuto's is a lot similar to Jiriya's as he has to rely on the snake attached to him and has snake features.

Sasuke and Madara having the same ms argument is dumb. Not bothering same level eyes =/= same level feats shown by the clear difference in ems Madara's strength.

Naruto doesn't have reaction feats to dodge an arrow? I've given you the feat, I've shown they can be avoided at point blank by Kabuto(due to his sensing ability) which Naruto's shown better feats, country wide sensing.

are you suggesting that naruto in sage mode could fight both sasuke and itachi? please explain how his feats are better. stop comparing snake sage mode to toad sage mode, they are clearly different. you can't use face marking examples to suggest kabuto's isn't perfect.

naruto dodging the third raikage isn't a feat suggesting he can dodge two arrows fired at once.

how would Sm naruto break susanoo?

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and if you say madara's susanoo or the same level are greater than sasuke's ill refer you to this

 

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*Sigh Where do I begin?

1. He decimated 5 of Pain's bodies at full power and later went head to head with Deva Path and was winning, not something to laugh at.

2. Your point about Obito was valid but not the raikage example. He flat out beat him in SM.

3. You're forgetting Sasuke was healed by Karin and had some rest in Obito's dimension.

4. Only blind against Sakura and Naruto, and he didn't go into a full on fight with either. He had eyesight when he fought Kakashi. He even had susanoo. Kakashi was weakened after using kamui to counter his arrow, so by the time Sasuke was blind, they stopped actually fighting. On top of this, he was healed by Karin before he fought Kakashi. So Sasuke wasn't at a disadvantage against Kakashi.

5. SM=MS. I know people are going to abuse this.
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However, Naruto previously said that they'd both die if they fought. This scan confirms it because a tie is when neither side can truly beat the other aka "both dieing". EMS>SM It's likely.

your argument starts flawed. would naruto have been able to beat those paths if deva could fight from the start?

and considering naruto only saw blind exhausted sasuke; how would he know?
 
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