Minato and Tobirama cannot defeat Uchiha Sasuke.

[Sennin of Logic]

Sasuke's Susano'o went with him. As I showed in my first post, if someone was removed Sasuke from Susano'o it would still be there. As shown with Madara. As you see, Susano'o jumped with Sasuke, Naruto, and Minato.

Then you'll post the next page, and say "Susano'o isn't there". Look again, Sasuke doesn't have the EMS activated. So we know he deactivated Susano'o.

In the end, if he was to FTG the Susano'o, Sasuke would simply jump with the Susano'o.


As Shelke was telling you, Naruto chakra was touching and Sasuke/Minato. Susano'o is chakra as well and it's touching Sasuke. Therefore, Sasuke and Susano'o would jump. Moving him to another spot isn't a win unless we're Kumai which he does not have.

Can you tell if he had EMS activated when he resurfaced without susanoo? I don't think it's possible for him to suddenly get rid of susanoo by the time they reappear since FTG is instant. After all, you can't be faster than instant.

Also, I never claimed it would be separated. I'm simply saying that something about FTG must have somehow gotten rid of susanoo since he had it as he FTG'd, but didn't have it when he reappeared.

 

[ReZ]

What?Tobirama fought Uchiha's all of his life and defeated a MS user,Izuna,and you're telling me he can't defeat Sasuke?By using Edo Bodies he can blow up Susano'o no problem,and who was the idiot saying that Tobirama won't have time to make bunshins?Seriously?You think Sasuke would just activate Susano;o off the bat,he may not be going blind but Susano;o does drain allot of chakra.If Tobirama marks Sasuke it's over.Now for the Minato part,he defeated Tobi by analyzing Kamui's abillities in seconds,he's a fighting specialist as strategist with years of experience in combat,feared as the Yellow Flash and you think just because Sasuke has EMS he can beat him?KCM grants him even more speed and gives him chakra to use everything in his arsenal.

 

[Optimistic]

What?Tobirama fought Uchiha's all of his life and defeated a MS user,Izuna,and you're telling me he can't defeat Sasuke?

Izuna is featless and before you say he's equal to Madara with MS i suggest you read the viz translation before embarrassing yourself.

By using Edo Bodies he can blow up Susano'o no problem,and who was the idiot saying that Tobirama won't have time to make bunshins?Seriously?You think Sasuke would just activate Susano;o off the bat,he may not be going blind but Susano;o does drain allot of chakra.

What i just quoted above is the biggest pile of shit i've ever laid eyes on.

If Tobirama marks Sasuke it's over

You can't even give valid points you're not even worth anyone's time.

 

[Solo]

Can you tell if he had EMS activated when he resurfaced without susanoo? I don't think it's possible for him to suddenly get rid of susanoo by the time they reappear since FTG is instant. After all, you can't be faster than instant.

Also, I never claimed it would be separated. I'm simply saying that something about FTG must have somehow gotten rid of susanoo since he had it as he FTG'd, but didn't have it when he reappeared.

I mean they can activate Susano'o seconds before an attack hit them, I don't see why they can't do the opposite.

What?Tobirama fought Uchiha's all of his life and defeated a MS user,Izuna,and you're telling me he can't defeat Sasuke?By using Edo Bodies he can blow up Susano'o no problem,and who was the idiot saying that Tobirama won't have time to make bunshins?Seriously?You think Sasuke would just activate Susano;o off the bat,he may not be going blind but Susano;o does drain allot of chakra.If Tobirama marks Sasuke it's over.Now for the Minato part,he defeated Tobi by analyzing Kamui's abillities in seconds,he's a fighting specialist as strategist with years of experience in combat,feared as the Yellow Flash and you think just because Sasuke has EMS he can beat him?KCM grants him even more speed and gives him chakra to use everything in his arsenal.

We don't know how Izuna used his MS. Susano'o was rare. His MS could have granted him an ability like Shisui or Obito rather than Susano'o.

 

[ReZ]

Izuna is featless and before you say he's equal to Madara with MS i suggest you read the viz translation before embarrassing yourself.

What i just quoted above is the biggest pile of shit i've ever laid eyes on.

You can't even give valid points you're not even worth anyone's time.

No mate,you're the biggest pile of shit i've laid my eyes on.Stop fapping on Sasuke and accept the fact that Tobirama fought Uchiha's on daily basis and Minato owned the actual God of NV with no prep time nor info.The only argument you Sasuke fapboys have is this:Susano'o can tank everything because Sasuke would cover it in Enton.Just look at the ****ing crater Tobirama created by using his paper bomb technique.

To Solo:I'm just saying that he fought and defetead an MS user,wich is a rare thing aswell.And I think Sasuke said,that if you awaken the double mangekyou you are granted Susano'o.

 

[shelke]

Wow, could you be more of an obnoxious, self-absorbed jerk than you are now?

You lost, accept it. You're in denial. By your logic, Naruto shouldn't have been teleported in the first place. Minato touched Naruto's chakra, and that was the connection necessary for FTG.

You can pretend that you're logical and I'm not, but it doesn't change the fact that I proved Minato can teleport Sasuke by touching susanoo. You couldn't even disprove me. You said that it was natural that Sasuke got teleported since he was being grabbed by Naruto. By that logic, Minato can still touch the susanoo to FTG and Sasuke will be dragged along as well.

So my seemingly harmless post which YOU responded to in that ludicrous manner warranted a acerbic retort and when I did so, I am a jerk? I see an irony in that. Don't dish out insults if you cannot handle responses. You were completely unprovoked and you called me arrogant for no reason. Stop crying now.

Are you are deficit in something? Naruto touched Minato or Minato touches Naruto, what's the difference? That was KCM Chakra Naruto was leeching on and those arms are even used for making Rasangans. They act like regular arms and the chakra is directly exuding from Naruto. Funny, why didn't he simply teleport that chakra away? After all, it's outside Naruto's body? Stop the bullshit. You have NO argument at all. Minato's dialogue is what holds importance, not yours. Minato can teleport Susano'o and Sasuke? Yes. Susano'o alone? No.

What did you prove? Nothing at all. Take your silly comparisons with me else where. I couldn't care less about how logical you are or not. You sound childish and ridiculous.

 

[shelke]

No mate,you're the biggest pile of shit i've laid my eyes on.Stop fapping on Sasuke and accept the fact that Tobirama fought Uchiha's on daily basis and Minato owned the actual God of NV with no prep time nor info.The only argument you Sasuke fapboys have is this:Susano'o can tank everything because Sasuke would cover it in Enton.Just look at the ****ing crater Tobirama created by using his paper bomb technique.

To Solo:I'm just saying that he fought and defetead an MS user,wich is a rare thing aswell.And I think Sasuke said,that if you awaken the double mangekyou you are granted Susano'o.

Where is your proof that Izuna had Susano'o? Where is your proof that Izuna had Amatetrasu? Your insult on Tim Jamison, I am sure, wrecked him.

 

[ReZ]

I mean they can activate Susano'o seconds before an attack hit them, I don't see why they can't do the opposite.


We don't know how Izuna used his MS. Susano'o was rare. His MS could have granted him an ability like Shisui or Obito rather than Susano'o.

Where is your proof that Izuna had Susano'o? Where is your proof that Izuna had Amatetrasu? Your insult on Tim Jamison, I am sure, wrecked him.

Why would you think I care?Where did I mention anything about Amateratsu or you're implying that you need Ama to unlock Susano'o?I just hate that you fap over Sasuke with his curent feats and compare him with two Hokages that actually have battle expierence with Uchiha's.Sasuke never fought a FTG user but Tobirama fought an Enton user,because he recognized the move when Sasuke used it and so on..

 

[shelke]

@ReZ You still didn't answer my questions. This 'fap this and that' insults are base ball skits for me. You must be deplorably clueless if you think you are hurting anyone with these. Which TWO Hokages am I comparing him too and whom had fighting experience against Uchihas? It certainly cannot be Minato. By god.

Amaterasu and Susano'o are two of the most powerful MS techniques and the former is extremely rare amongst Uchihas. There is not a single proof Izuna had these in his arsenal. If Tobirama recognized Enton, it doesn't even remotely imply Izuna had it. Izuna and Madara were the first people to unlock MS. This doesn't mean no one else after them accomplished so.

What is he countering Amaterasu with? Suiton?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

So my seemingly harmless post which YOU responded to in that ludicrous manner warranted a acerbic retort and when I did so, I am a jerk? I see an irony in that. Don't dish out insults if you cannot handle responses. You were completely unprovoked and you called me arrogant for no reason. Stop crying now.

Are you are deficit in something? Naruto touched Minato or Minato touches Naruto, what's the difference? That was KCM Chakra Naruto was leeching on and those arms are even used for making Rasangans. They act like regular arms and the chakra is directly exuding from Naruto. Funny, why didn't he simply teleport that chakra away? After all, it's outside Naruto's body? Stop the bullshit. You have NO argument at all. Minato's dialogue is what holds importance, not yours. Minato can teleport Susano'o and Sasuke? Yes. Susano'o alone? No.

What did you prove? Nothing at all. Take your silly comparisons with me else where. I couldn't care less about how logical you are or not. You sound childish and ridiculous.

Capping indicates that you're trying to make someone feel stupid, which is provocative, if that wasn't what you were doing, sorry, if it was, screw you.

You seem to not be getting my point at all. My point is that Minato can grab susanoo(which is linked to Sasuke) and use it to FTG Sasuke(and Susanoo). However, like last time, the susanoo wouldn't reappear with Sasuke. I'll have to be doing something for a while, so I won't be able to continue this for a while.

 

[Optimistic]

No mate,you're the biggest pile of shit i've laid my eyes on.

Be more original with your insults, maybe then i'll take you seriously.

Stop fapping on Sasuke and accept the fact that Tobirama fought Uchiha's on daily basis

Never said he didn't you moron all the Uchiha's he fought could be fodders for all i care Izuna is featless so you can't use him to hype up Tobirama.Give actual arguments instead of relying on featless Uchiha's.

and Minato owned the actual God of NV with no prep time nor info.

You're the dumbest member i've met today, Obito during that time is nowhere the current Obito so your argument in Minato defeating a God is invalid.

The only argument you Sasuke fapboys have is this:Susano'o can tank everything because Sasuke would cover it in Enton.

All you Tobirama supporters go on like his shunshin is actually blitz worthy and you think he can dodge amaterasu.Where did i mention Susano'o? where did i mention enton? Its funny cause Sasuke doesn't need Susano'o to beat the over hyped Hokage(tobirama).

Just look at the ****ing crater Tobirama created by using his paper bomb technique.

Amaterasu can prevent the edo from moving.Continuously burning flames while the edo will always regenerate will leave it out of commition like Nagato was until he used Shinra Tensei.Moreover Tobirama won't even be able to use any clones or edo's he cannot dodge amaterasu no matter what kind of bs excuse people come up with.He can sense but he hasn't got the reflexes or shunshin that matches V2 ay.

 

[ReZ]

@ReZ You still didn't answer my questions. This 'fap this and that' insults are base ball skits for me. You must be deplorably clueless if you think you are hurting anyone with these. Which TWO Hokages am I comparing him too and whom had fighting experience against Uchihas? It certainly cannot be Minato. By god.

Amaterasu and Susano'o are two of the most powerful MS techniques and the former is extremely rare amongst Uchihas. There is not a single proof Izuna had these in his arsenal. If Tobirama recognized Enton, it doesn't even remotely imply Izuna had it. Izuna and Madara were the first people to unlock MS. This doesn't mean no one else after them accomplished so.

What is he countering Amaterasu with? Suiton?

*facepalm*I never said Izuna had Amateratsu,I said that Tobirama saw Enton before so he knows a way how to fight it.Btw did you forgot that Tobirama's a sensor and can sense the chakra build in Sasuke's eye?Actually he can use Suiton in his advantage because,he's using his chakra to create the technique that means he can FTG to it,or you're gonna say it's not working that way?And his still has his Edo Tensei.

 

[ReZ]

Be more original with your insults, maybe then i'll take you seriously.

Never said he didn't you moron all the Uchiha's he fought could be fodders for all i care Izuna is featless so you can't use him to hype up Tobirama.Give actual arguments instead of relying on featless Uchiha's.

You're the dumbest member i've met today, Obito during that time is nowhere the current Obito so your argument in Minato defeating a God is invalid.

All you Tobirama supporters go on like his shunshin is actually blitz worthy and you think he can dodge amaterasu.Where did i mention Susano'o? where did i mention enton? Its funny cause Sasuke doesn't need Susano'o to beat the over hyped Hokage(tobirama).


Amaterasu can prevent the edo from moving.Continuously burning flames while the edo will always regenerate will leave it out of commition like Nagato was until he used Shinra Tensei.Moreover Tobirama won't even be able to use any clones or edo's he cannot dodge amaterasu no matter what kind of bs excuse people come up with.He can sense but he hasn't got the reflexes or shunshin that matches V2 ay.

He's a sensor you idiot,he can sense his chakra build in Sasuke's eye,moron.I think you've met allot of dumb people in your life being so condenscending and shit,I bet your entire family is retarded because they don't agree with you,prick.And about the Minato bit,I'm just saying he fought and defetead and Uchiha,with MS+Senju DNA and a haxxd abillity,Kamui.

 

[Penguin]

I mean they can activate Susano'o seconds before an attack hit them, I don't see why they can't do the opposite.


We don't know how Izuna used his MS. Susano'o was rare. His MS could have granted him an ability like Shisui or Obito rather than Susano'o.

Izuna had Enton. Just sayin. ^^ And Tobirama beat Izuna so Enton is no problem.

 

[Optimistic]

He's a sensor you idiot,he can sense his chakra build in Sasuke's eye,moron.

can you fking read? I stated that he can sense it.But guess what he isn't fast enough to actually dodge it.His shunshin is below Base Minato's and his reflexes is not on par with a V2 Ay.

I think you've met allot of dumb people in your life being so condenscending and shit,I bet your entire family is retarded because they don't agree with you,prick.

resorting to insulting my family over manga.smh grow up.

And about the Minato bit,I'm just saying he fought and defetead and Uchiha,with MS+Senju DNA and a haxxd abillity,Kamui.

ok i'm not even discussing about minato anyway but people who claim Tobirama can win yet he cannot dodge amaterasu is laughable.His base speed is laughable as well.

 

[shelke]

Capping indicates that you're trying to make someone feel stupid, which is provocative, if that wasn't what you were doing, sorry, if it was, screw you.

You seem to not be getting my point at all. My point is that Minato can grab susanoo(which is linked to Sasuke) and use it to FTG Sasuke(and Susanoo). However, like last time, the susanoo wouldn't reappear with Sasuke. I'll have to be doing something for a while, so I won't be able to continue this for a while.

You sure care and nit pick my posts a lot. The caps were used to emphasize so that you don't pursue this point. Your logic against them doesn't make sense to me. Jinton was already eating away at Susano'o. It either disappeared so fast or Kishimoto is bullsitting yet again and being highly inconsistent just like Minato's KCM and the latest implication of his Jinchurichi status. Which isn't a confirmation but I wouldn't e surprised if it happens.

@ReZ Enton and Amaterasu are different. Is he as good a sensor as Nagato? Doesn't matter. He lacks the speed to dodge it without placing seals first. He isn't winning this.

 

[ReZ]

can you fking read? I stated that he can sense it.But guess what he isn't fast enough to actually dodge it.His shunshin is below Base Minato's and his reflexes is not on par with a V2 Ay.

resorting to insulting my family over manga.smh grow up.

ok i'm not even discussing about minato anyway but people who claim Tobirama can win yet he cannot dodge amaterasu is laughable.His base speed is laughable as well.

Actually,I diden't insult your family,I've insulted you,I don't think you quite got what I meant....Sasuke is slower than Tobirama and he still managed to outrun Amateratsu.Amateratsu it's not Instan like FTG is,and Tobirama can mark a tree,a rock anything and FTG to it,Sasuke remaining clueless about what happened.

 

[ReZ]

You sure care and nit pick my posts a lot. The caps were used to emphasize so that you don't pursue this point. Your logic against them doesn't make sense to me. Jinton was already eating away at Susano'o. It either disappeared so fast or Kishimoto is bullsitting yet again and being highly inconsistent just like Minato's KCM and the latest implication of his Jinchurichi status. Which isn't a confirmation but I wouldn't e surprised if it happens.

@ReZ Enton and Amaterasu are different. Is he as good a sensor as Nagato? Doesn't matter. He lacks the speed to dodge it without placing seals first. He isn't winning this.

Are you kidding Tobirama sensed his enemies by tapping the finger to the ground,not only that but he pinpointed their location and their numbers.Yeah,by using Enton the user can manipulate the flames that's it,the delivery speed it's the same.

 

[Penguin]

You sure care and nit pick my posts a lot. The caps were used to emphasize so that you don't pursue this point. Your logic against them doesn't make sense to me. Jinton was already eating away at Susano'o. It either disappeared so fast or Kishimoto is bullsitting yet again and being highly inconsistent just like Minato's KCM and the latest implication of his Jinchurichi status. Which isn't a confirmation but I wouldn't e surprised if it happens.

@ReZ Enton and Amaterasu are different. Is he as good a sensor as Nagato? Doesn't matter. He lacks the speed to dodge it without placing seals first. He isn't winning this.

He dodged Izuna's Enton.

 

[Optimistic]

He dodged Izuna's Enton.

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yea and i can eat my own shit for 2 months without dying.