Prince Charles ( Kimimaro) VS Deidara senpai(Deidara)

[deidara senpai]

Alright first I would like to say this is my first debate and im very excited for it and im honored that my first opponent is the famous prince charles, the best debater on NB and im saying good luck I might have problems with it looking neat but it’s a learning experience for me and I hope I get better as I go

And now without further adieu, here begins my first debate

HERE COMES THE ROOKIE COMIN IN HOT!!! (i think this will be my catchphrase like yours is turnt up)

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now ill admit obviously deidara is my favorite character but im not like one of those fanboys i know what deidara can and cant do but when it comes to fighting kimimaro, this is somthing deidara can and would do if they fought

Man yall always know what the deal is! This yo boy Prince A.K.A the best debater on this site! Do I really have to say it?..

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I'm Turnt UP

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As I pointed out before I suck at openings and hardly try with them.

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As displayed from Orochimaru regarding Kimimaros body structuct, he can resist any type of physical attacks. Now obviously their is a extent to this accusation but clearly this should apply to Deidara's clay bombs. The main thing we need to take into factor of this match is Kimimaros defenses which allow him to endure incoming explosives from deidara.​

now yes i can agree with kimimaro and his body when it comes to physical attacks. But like you said, their is a limit to it, first off deidara would start the battle on his bird which automatically puts kimimaro at a massive disadvantage, c1 attacks shouldnt be much on kimimaro ill admit just like the little toy things when fighting sasuke that sasuke was easily able to get away from which ill admit kimimaro would to but he probably would be able to endure the explosion itself since its not really a big or powerful one, but those are the attacks he would endure deidara has bigger bangs that would scar him.

Analyzing his regeneration

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As demonstrated his healing capabilities when it comes to body is needless to say accurate and without flaw and also not time consuming. This is again further looked into when Kimi breaks down his blood inheritance as he saids he has the ability to control the bone formation and destroying cells[

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]. Anway's I do nott want to dwell on this matter as seeing I simply wanted to break down his regeneration abilities and how his body will be capable of enduring most of Deidaras attacks.

most might be an exaggeration id say all of deidaras c1 attacks but c2 mines and missiles he wont be able to take a lot of continuos ammounts of them, deidara's c2 combo of missles and mines would also be bad for kimimaro, now before you say deidara doesnt have tobi to put the bombs under, he still can do it heres why

first, deidara can make a clay clone

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and can put them underneath the ground with earth release hiding like a mole technique

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and would be able to place them into the ground plus kimimaro wont notice that he went under there just like when tobi did it while sasuke wasnt paying attention and kimimaro does seem to let things slip by

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here kimimaro gets trapped by gaaras sand by surprise and deidara doesnt have to grab him from under nor say anything
at all for that matter, then it would be continuous attacks from above and below which im not saying kimimaro would get one shotted, but after continuous attacks from below and above even his regenerating wont keep up it will severely wound him

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Regarding Deidaras his fighting style usually resolves around the use of being in flight and attacking his opponents from above. Taking into consideration of the location of this match, it isnt too shabby to say he will be capable of taking advantage of the large trees as a means to travel upon similar to what kakashi and hidan did[

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] as a way to reach Deidara. Obviously worst case scenario he will not be able to reach him dead on but with his displayed long range attacks[

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] and utilize them as a form of projectiles to launch at Deidara causing grave injuries.

now i understand you gave the location more of an advantage for kimimaro, however deidara can still send c2 missiles and even if it does miss, deidara would know to fly farther as for digital sharptel, deidara was able to dodge gaaras sand which is much quicker then the digital shraptel he will have no problem dodging it unless kimimaro displays a distraction but the shraptel is his only non close range attack capable of hitting him but deidara can simply dodge it since his dragon is fast enough and worst comes to worst, he can create another bird and jump on it if he truly wnated to

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Taking into fact that the bones are hard a steel they will without doubt pierce through deidara. Anyways Deidara will have to be cautious of clay supply that he uses. Why I say this is because when he starts to run low on chakra he cannot properly mold his clay together.

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Once this happens he will without doubt take this fight to the surface where he will utterly fall victim to boneworld and that would be the end of this match. The main troublesome jutsu here is C4 but as noted by kimimaro he can control the destroying of cells within his body which may end up being a counter to the mini bombs in his body destroying him from the inside out.

now first let me talk about 2 techniques that will undoubtably both kill kimimaro called c3 and c4

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c3 the massive explosion

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kimimaro doesnt have a counter for this and the explosion is so big he wont be able to simply endure it like he could with deidaras "lighter" bombs

now enough with that here comes the big bang c4 which he has absolutely no counter for

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once kimimaro sees this, he will try what sasuke did initially and run (since nothing else could be done)

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once kimimaro sees this, he will be confused

also, i disagree about kimimaro destroying the c4 micro bombs, they are nano bombs, not cells he cant destroy them, only his cells he can destroy, even if the bombs were cells he still couldnt destroy them since they are not his own cells

but that doesnt matter because even if kimimaro could destroy them how will he know cells were inside them, he doesnt have any doujutsu to see them or have any idea that they went inside his body (thats the true frightening part of the technique and for this match the scenario is no knowledge so he will have no clue regardless) he would just be stunned and confused about why the initial explosion was a dud then he will find out the hard way as he sublimate's and dies

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deidara then laughs about how his art is a bang

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and he finishes his sentence here kimimaro aint surviving this and attacking him from behind and when tobi says on a cellular level, he means destroys the cells

Bone wings NUQQA

LMFAO JUST READ THIS NOW XD

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calling me a clown?

 

[NewKageism]

good good good guys. Yes a fight

 

[Penguin]

Spoiler

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My catch phrase.

 

[Prince Charles]

Lmao penguin

OT: Ill post my counter later on in the day.

 

[deidara senpai]

Lmao penguin

OT: Ill post my counter later on in the day.

Fine by me Charles but I have a question, on Thursday I'm going away on vacation and obviously as much I want to continue this, can we keep going but when tomorrow night happens, can we just have the judges judge what we have by tomorrow night, cause as fun as this is, this is somthing I don't really want to do on vacation

Or we can just wait until I come back next week but I believe that's too long and I won't have my laptop so I can't counter posts

Up to you Charles

 

[Prince Charles]

Fine by me Charles but I have a question, on Thursday I'm going away on vacation and obviously as much I want to continue this, can we keep going but when tomorrow night happens, can we just have the judges judge what we have by tomorrow night, cause as fun as this is, this is somthing I don't really want to do on vacation

Or we can just wait until I come back next week but I believe that's too long and I won't have my laptop so I can't counter posts

Up to you Charles

Sure tomorrow night is fine by me. but ill have to find judges

 

[deidara senpai]

Sure tomorrow night is fine by me. but ill have to find judges

Ok that's cool and shouldn't be too hard right?

 

[Curse Mark]

Ok that's cool and shouldn't be too hard right?

ill judge

/10char

 

[Prince Charles]

@Deidara Senpai

now ill admit obviously deidara is my favorite character but im not like one of those fanboys i know what deidara can and cant do but when it comes to fighting kimimaro, this is somthing deidara can and would do if they fought

now yes i can agree with kimimaro and his body when it comes to physical attacks. But like you said, their is a limit to it, first off deidara would start the battle on his bird which automatically puts kimimaro at a massive disadvantage, c1 attacks shouldnt be much on kimimaro ill admit just like the little toy things when fighting sasuke that sasuke was easily able to get away from which ill admit kimimaro would to but he probably would be able to endure the explosion itself since its not really a big or powerful one, but those are the attacks he would endure deidara has bigger bangs that would scar him.

Regarding Deidara going up in mid flight as he usually will be troublesome and will presume to drop c1 bombs. But as hinted and displayed by sasuke when he fought Deidara Immense speed caused Deidara great trouble. As showed He had to increase his chakra levels to c-1 to keep up with sasukes movements[

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]. Now im aware of the fact that Kimimaro hasn't got a lot of screen time which puts me at a disadvantage especially regarding his speed feats, but he still displayed noteworthy speed and reaction feats during the war when he escaped the blast radius from a FRS thrown by KCM naruto clone[

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] or rather he managed to jump out of its range before being hit.

Needless to say as I pointed out due to his body structure and regeneration Deidaras c-1 bombs arent doing much here. But once again regarding Kimimaro's speed feats he does have a 4.5 in speed which puts more highlight into his speed.

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Lets look at this feat. Back in part 1 we see sasuke complete his transformation and brakes out the barrel that he was being held in, look at the distance between Kimimaro and naruto as sasuke is about to run off. While its not a amazing distance it still serves a purpose in this debate.

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Now at this scan we see Kimi appear behind naruto from the gap between them, It's self explanatory of what im trying to say here as to why kishi gave him a 4.5 in speed. All this leads back to the fact that he will be capable of evading Deidaras bombs for the most part.

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Landing a blow on Kimimaro will be no easy task.

most might be an exaggeration id say all of deidaras c1 attacks but c2 mines and missiles he wont be able to take a lot of continuos ammounts of them, deidara's c2 combo of missles and mines would also be bad for kimimaro, now before you say deidara doesnt have tobi to put the bombs under, he still can do it heres why

first, deidara can make a clay clone

and can put them underneath the ground with earth release hiding like a mole technique

and would be able to place them into the ground plus kimimaro wont notice that he went under there just like when tobi did it while sasuke wasnt paying attention and kimimaro does seem to let things slip by

Nice strategy Indeed. But I believe it's a stretch to say Kimimaro lets things go by considering he has shown to have a analyzing-like characteristics[

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]. Anyways regarding your strategy I will not discredit it but at the same time I have my own reasons to assume that he will be up and walking after taking some of the clay mines. Activating curse mark 2 here would be of great assistance here considering it creases his endurance and healing and made him capable of escaping Gaara's sand coffin. Also regarding the scan you showed of Kimi letting things slip pass him due note that the scan before that he was facing up towards to the incoming sand bullet like attack from gaara[

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] which left him vulnerable to that sneak attack coming beneath his feat as you showed.

once kimimaro sees this, he will be confused

also, i disagree about kimimaro destroying the c4 micro bombs, they are nano bombs, not cells he cant destroy them, only his cells he can destroy, even if the bombs were cells he still couldnt destroy them since they are not his own cells

but that doesnt matter because even if kimimaro could destroy them how will he know cells were inside them, he doesnt have any doujutsu to see them or have any idea that they went inside his body (thats the true frightening part of the technique and for this match the scenario is no knowledge so he will have no clue regardless) he would just be stunned and confused about why the initial explosion was a dud then he will find out the hard way as he sublimate's and dies

As I displayed Kimimaro does possess exceptional analyzing feats which to my view would indicate once the C4 goes and he starts to see his body crumble away as we witness against sasuke the process isnt instant. But for the most part I agree that C4 will probably be the game changing factor here but with hi regeneration abilities I find it very likely he be capable of somehow surviving the C4 to an extent. To be fair it should be noted that C3 has to be prepped first which explains why he had it ready for Gaara, but in this case it isnt prepped. It should also be noted that Deidara can be arrogant as to why sasori sama said he should be better prepared next time[

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[deidara senpai]

before i counter how do you do the X thing you guys all do

P.S since its raining in the area i dont have to go to work today (im a lifeguard) so unless i go out and decide to do somthing im free to do this all day

 

[Fecal Matter]

before i counter how do you do the X thing you guys all do

P.S since its raining in the area i dont have to go to work today (im a lifeguard) so unless i go out and decide to do somthing im free to do this all day

You get the image copy and paste the location onto the earth icon.Then from the [/URL] at the end delete all the writing for example

] delete text here[/URL]
Then after you delete the text in between that gap type in the 'X'.Then it should be like this

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[Prince Charles]

before i counter how do you do the X thing you guys all do

P.S since its raining in the area i dont have to go to work today (im a lifeguard) so unless i go out and decide to do somthing im free to do this all day

oh the X

for example first type the letter ''X'' and make sure its in brackets [ ]so it will look like this [X]. After that highlight only the X and then copy whatever URL link like a manga chapter and then click the link button in the quick reply menu. Its the button that looks like a blue planet with a iron thingy. after that you see something pop up with something alright highlighted , erase the highlighted http thing crap and paste the url link you copied and click ok and thats it.

 

[deidara senpai]

@Deidara Senpai

=D

Regarding Deidara going up in mid flight as he usually will be troublesome and will presume to drop c1 bombs. But as hinted and displayed by sasuke when he fought Deidara Immense speed caused Deidara great trouble. As showed He had to increase his chakra levels to c-1 to keep up with sasukes movements[

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]. Now im aware of the fact that Kimimaro hasn't got a lot of screen time which puts me at a disadvantage especially regarding his speed feats, but he still displayed noteworthy speed and reaction feats during the war when he escaped the blast radius from a FRS thrown by KCM naruto clone[

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] or rather he managed to jump out of its range before being hit.

Needless to say as I pointed out due to his body structure and regeneration Deidaras c-1 bombs arent doing much here. But once again regarding Kimimaro's speed feats he does have a 4.5 in speed which puts more highlight into his speed.

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Lets look at this feat. Back in part 1 we see sasuke complete his transformation and brakes out the barrel that he was being held in, look at the distance between Kimimaro and naruto as sasuke is about to run off. While its not a amazing distance it still serves a purpose in this debate.

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Now at this scan we see Kimi appear behind naruto from the gap between them, It's self explanatory of what im trying to say here as to why kishi gave him a 4.5 in speed. All this leads back to the fact that he will be capable of evading Deidaras bombs for the most part.

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Landing a blow on Kimimaro will be no easy task.

now when it comes to the typical c1 attacks ill admit its not doing much and kimimaro is very fast no question there, kimimaro is very fast and will dodge or endure most of c1 but their is one thing

when naruto throws the rasen shurikan, i didnt see him throw it, i saw him getting one ready then kimimaro and chiyo make a comment before it happened, but i didnt see any rasen shurikan action itself, not that it really matters, kimimaro indeed has true speed i can agree with that so lets leave that as we move on considering its only c1 which is deidaras light stuff

Nice strategy Indeed. But I believe it's a stretch to say Kimimaro lets things go by considering he has shown to have a analyzing-like characteristics[

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]. Anyways regarding your strategy I will not discredit it but at the same time I have my own reasons to assume that he will be up and walking after taking some of the clay mines. Activating curse mark 2 here would be of great assistance here considering it creases his endurance and healing and made him capable of escaping Gaara's sand coffin. Also regarding the scan you showed of Kimi letting things slip pass him due note that the scan before that he was facing up towards to the incoming sand bullet like attack from gaara[

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] which left him vulnerable to that sneak attack coming beneath his feat as you showed.

i know kimi has great analyzing skills but im saying he doesnt have the reflexes for everything he can walk after some of the missiles and mines but i dont think he can walk it off multiple ones their were a lot of mines

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thats a shitload of them lol but yea, deidara can distract him by sending missiles through the air then wherever kimimaro steps...hehe hope he gets lucky plus he has no way of knowing where they are or defusing them since he doesnt have raiton, kimi can survive and hold his own against c2 for a while but if deidara decides to keep going with it, he eventually will get him or he can just move one to the 2 killer explosion techniques c3 and c4

As I displayed Kimimaro does possess exceptional analyzing feats which to my view would indicate once the C4 goes and he starts to see his body crumble away as we witness against sasuke the process isnt instant. But for the most part I agree that C4 will probably be the game changing factor here but with hi regeneration abilities I find it very likely he be capable of somehow surviving the C4 to an extent. To be fair it should be noted that C3 has to be prepped first which explains why he had it ready for Gaara, but in this case it isnt prepped. It should also be noted that Deidara can be arrogant as to why sasori sama said he should be better prepared next time[

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]. But for the most part I see c4 being the biggest threat and can potentially end this but theirs still the slightest chance of him surviving due to his regeneration abilities.

once his body crumbles hes a dead man it might be somewhat slow but regeneration wont work, it might go quick for wounds but if his arm crumbles, or anything crumbles really, he cant regenerate it,losing limbs and receiving wounds are different aside from losing limbs is a serious and eternal wound, he cant grow it back like a hollow (lol if you watch/read bleach) he cant do anything to c4, he would literally die

i suppose thats true about c3, but if he did have it prepared, its too big of an explosion for kimimaro to survive regeneration wont save him there either

 

[Prince Charles]

=D



now when it comes to the typical c1 attacks ill admit its not doing much and kimimaro is very fast no question there, kimimaro is very fast and will dodge or endure most of c1 but their is one thing

when naruto throws the rasen shurikan, i didnt see him throw it, i saw him getting one ready then kimimaro and chiyo make a comment before it happened, but i didnt see any rasen shurikan action itself, not that it really matters, kimimaro indeed has true speed i can agree with that so lets leave that as we move on considering its only c1 which is deidaras light stuff

Actually now I believe he didn't throw the Frs when you think about it.

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My apologies if I confused you:dunno:. Now regarding the FRS it's to my understand that the clone actually ran forward with it. As I highlighted with the red marks you can see the wind blades of the FRS and behind the clone you see speed marks that indicate that he was running forward.

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Hence the explosion. Then we see the clone saying it overexerted it self which goes back to it running forward[

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]. Also again to my view point Kimimaro managed to escape the blast before being hit.

i know kimi has great analyzing skills but im saying he doesnt have the reflexes for everything he can walk after some of the missiles and mines but i dont think he can walk it off multiple ones their were a lot of mines

We need to take into factor of Quality over Quantity. Now you brought up the point regarding multiple bombs via the land mines. Do note sasuke with his curse mark managed to tank it and reduce the damage[

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]. Now I know sasuke was able to take the blast mainly due to the fact with the use of his wings[

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] but then again we again witness sasuke take another blast from a mini C2 dragon[

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] and only his C2 wings which I might add only one of them are destroyed[

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] and he was still alive and walking. Taking that into factor a body structure like kimimaro which is hyped up to be resistant towards physical attacked added with his skeletal structure being as hard as steel and his regeneration abilities AND the fact that he also has the curse mark clearly all lead to the presumption that in the end he will take Deidara's bombs like a cake walk. Well not as easy as a cake walk but you get the point *_*

thats a shitload of them lol but yea, deidara can distract him by sending missiles through the air then wherever kimimaro steps...hehe hope he gets lucky plus he has no way of knowing where they are or defusing them since he doesnt have raiton, kimi can survive and hold his own against c2 for a while but if deidara decides to keep going with it, he eventually will get him or he can just move one to the 2 killer explosion techniques c3 and c4

Pretty much debunked this issue above xd but ill get on with C3 and C4

once his body crumbles hes a dead man it might be somewhat slow but regeneration wont work, it might go quick for wounds but if his arm crumbles, or anything crumbles really, he cant regenerate it,losing limbs and receiving wounds are different aside from losing limbs is a serious and eternal wound, he cant grow it back like a hollow (lol if you watch/read bleach) he cant do anything to c4, he would literally die

i suppose thats true about c3, but if he did have it prepared, its too big of an explosion for kimimaro to survive regeneration wont save him there either

Considering when we take into account of Deidara's personality its a stretch to say he will have it prepared.
Take note as I mentioned before the destroying process is not instant[

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[deidara senpai]

Actually now I believe he didn't throw the Frs when you think about it.

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My apologies if I confused you:dunno:. Now regarding the FRS it's to my understand that the clone actually ran forward with it. As I highlighted with the red marks you can see the wind blades of the FRS and behind the clone you see speed marks that indicate that he was running forward.

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Hence the explosion. Then we see the clone saying it overexerted it self which goes back to it running forward[

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]. Also again to my view point Kimimaro managed to escape the blast before being hit.

had a feeling haha but dont worry its all good xd, and since we really dont know what happened, we really cant assume maybe kimi got hit and crumbled but came back together via edo tensei but were talking assumption now, we were judging this because of naruto vs black zetsu, not naruto vs kimimaro so lets move on from this since it doesnt have much to do with this

We need to take into factor of Quality over Quantity. Now you brought up the point regarding multiple bombs via the land mines. Do note sasuke with his curse mark managed to tank it and reduce the damage[

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]. Now I know sasuke was able to take the blast mainly due to the fact with the use of his wings[

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] but then again we again witness sasuke take another blast from a mini C2 dragon[

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] and only his C2 wings which I might add only one of them are destroyed[

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] and he was still alive and walking. Taking that into factor a body structure like kimimaro which is hyped up to be resistant towards physical attacked added with his skeletal structure being as hard as steel and his regeneration abilities AND the fact that he also has the curse mark clearly all lead to the presumption that in the end he will take Deidara's bombs like a cake walk. Well not as easy as a cake walk but you get the point *_*



Pretty much debunked this issue above xd but ill get on with C3 and C4

the reason why sasuke was ok as you said after the first one was because of him flying as deidara stated

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which obviously kimimaro doesnt have wings (BONE WINGS!!!!!) but can take a predator missile (lol had to) as for the second one, sasuke protected himself from the blast by sacrificing a wing, its not that only one was destroyed, he purposely put the wing there and exploded, i can see kimimaro tanking some but im not convinced that he can tank every mine and every missile, when kimimaro gets up all deidara will do is just shoot another one

and we are just talking about missiles right now i havent even gotten to the mines

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and no deidara wont be falling onto it that will be the field when kimimaro gets blasted close range to it that would leave a big mark on kimimaro and he will be getting that continuously he might regenerate slowly (for a wound like this it will regenerate but it wont be small like wound like you showed earlier) and if he keeps getting bombarded with attacks, the regeneration and it will also jeep eating away and using up chakra until hes out

also i think deidara could blow up all the mines up at once himself but he hasent shown that (though i am very sure he could lets say he cant because even if he cant, he's still severally damaging kimimaro)

Considering when we take into account of Deidara's personality its a stretch to say he will have it prepared.
Take note as I mentioned before the destroying process is not instant[

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fine, fine we will say he couldnt though he probably could just go airbourne and make it and i mean, high (not like that good kush hehe) and just prepare it, thats if he has enough like he seemed to against sasuke and not gaara

and thats not something we can really assume, its not instant but its not slow and lets say you get a wound, eventually, it heals over time, kimimaros ability is to just speed up that amount of time, if you lose a hand though, thats something you cant heal (but thats obvious) when kimimaros body begins to crumble, he cant have his hand reappear out of nowhere, plus at this point of the battle after going through that whole battle scenario, he will be very very low on chakra anyway to the point that he couldnt even create much cells for the minor things even

 

[deidara senpai]

Charles and I mutually agreed that this is it and we are finding judges as we speak

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Im stealing my catch phrase from Asking Alexandria "Get on your Knees" or "You need a doctor baby? You scared?"

 

[deidara senpai]

Why was this... Sent over here?

That's what I want to know and **** Charles got banned well I'm still curious about this so three judges needed dkdankong you can judge and 2 others needed ask me if you want

 

[Curse Mark]

Im stealing my catch phrase from Asking Alexandria "Get on your Knees" or "You need a doctor baby? You scared?"

....Meh...


And although I can't go into much detail right now because I'm pretty busy..
Charles was more creative and used more original arguments.
Deidara used a lot of arguments I've heard before(not saying he copied.. just not too original) but a few new ones.
For me this has to be a tie. I think it was just about even.
Congratulations to both people. Deidara, you're getting a lot better.

 

[deidara senpai]

....Meh...


And although I can't go into much detail right now because I'm pretty busy..
Charles was more creative and used more original arguments.
Deidara used a lot of arguments I've heard before(not saying he copied.. just not too original) but a few new ones.
For me this has to be a tie. I think it was just about even.
Congratulations to both people. Deidara, you're getting a lot better.

Thank you for the judgement and I didn't copy I guess it was just more common but deidara being able to use a clone for the mines I came up with completely

And thank you that means a lot!! I'm just trying to get better every time

But I accept a tie now I need to find 2 more judges if you want to just messege me first