[Discussion] Avengers vs X-Men

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

1.captain America
2.magnito
3.wolverine
4.hulk
5.thor
6.panther
7.spider man
8.angle

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

MvX is irrelevant, no one was fighting at their full power, especially the avengers. Magneto is a planet buster, Iron man had ass pulls and feats while punching Magneto can't KO him.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

MvX is irrelevant, no one was fighting at their full power, especially the avengers. Magneto is a planet buster, Iron man had ass pulls and feats while punching Magneto can't KO him.

lmao? What a ridiculous argument. You sound like a fanboy, honestly.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

lmao? What a ridiculous argument. You sound like a fanboy, honestly.

tbh, x-men isn't even my fav team and avengers is better, but what I don't like is when ridiculous fights are together and the character that is outclassed in just about anything wins for no reason.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

tbh, x-men isn't even my fav team and avengers is better, but what I don't like is when ridiculous fights are together and the character that is outclassed in just about anything wins for no reason.

*cough*biased *cough*

*cough* no longer credible*cough*

These aren't 'ridiculous'. I gave reasons why. Storms powers are more convenient,efficient, and more powerful.

 

[xjimbox]

lmao? What a ridiculous argument. You sound like a fanboy, honestly.

Agreed with you here

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

*cough*biased *cough*

*cough* no longer credible*cough*

These aren't 'ridiculous'. I gave reasons why. Storms powers are more convenient,efficient, and more powerful.

You put up a completely fallacious post where you put it as she has control over thors actions and can render him powerless just because of her environmental manipulation. You didn't even consider thor at all in the post, completely setting up the fight for her, due to biased opinions.

Ex. "freeze his mouth off"

Thor's durability and sheer will is star-system level, don't take it from me, take it from comicvine and the OBD. She's not touching him with his massively hypersonic or hypersonic+ movement speed, FTL reactions, or matching his stamina, hers is above peak human while he can fight at max strength for weeks at a time and not be tired.

 

[xjimbox]

You put up a completely fallacious post where you put it as she has control over thors actions and can render him powerless just because of her environmental manipulation. You didn't even consider thor at all in the post, completely setting up the fight for her, due to biased opinions.

Ex. "freeze his mouth off"

Thor's durability and sheer will is star-system level, don't take it from me, take it from comicvine and the OBD. She's not touching him with his massively hypersonic or hypersonic+ movement speed, FTL reactions, or matching his stamina, hers is above peak human while he can fight at max strength for weeks at a time and not be tired.

Even though I don't agree with some of the things you have posted I do back up the fact that thor would poop on storm

 

[Dreckerplayer]

You put up a completely fallacious post where you put it as she has control over thors actions and can render him powerless just because of her environmental manipulation. You didn't even consider thor at all in the post, completely setting up the fight for her, due to biased opinions.

Ex. "freeze his mouth off"

Thor's durability and sheer will is star-system level, don't take it from me, take it from comicvine and the OBD. She's not touching him with his massively hypersonic or hypersonic+ movement speed, FTL reactions, or matching his stamina, hers is above peak human while he can fight at max strength for weeks at a time and not be tired.

Well, i did research. And Thor does win, not because of his magical 'hypersonic' speed, but because of his high resistance to injuries, and near-infinite resources of cosmic energy...he's more powerful, all around. Happy?

But, the points you've made were barely valid. Hell, I would've been better off defending Thor, since I happen to know more.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

How do you know more when you just had to look up information on his feats? :|

Also, his hypersonic speed IS a factor here, the powerful gusts are not reaching him when he is running at several 100,000 meters per second.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

How do you know more when you just had to look up information on his feats? :|

Also, his hypersonic speed IS a factor here, the powerful gusts are not reaching him when he is running at several 100,000 meters per second.

you can't just base it off of that one feat. And yes, now I know more than you. And if I didn't, you'd be able to bring a better argument forth.

You could've explained why Thor was 'all-around' more powerful, and not just his physical prowess.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

you can't just base it off of that one feat. And yes, now I know more than you. And if I didn't, you'd be able to bring a better argument forth.

All the feats you've read, I've done so and better, I've actually read the comics the confirmed feats came forth from and know they are true. I've read countless information regarding to the avengers feats, let alone thor. More than you did in 5 minutes. :|

 

[Kettei]

Now what about Cap and Cyclops? Captain has better reflexes and speed. He has overall more experience as well.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

Now what about Cap and Cyclops? Captain has better reflexes and speed. He has overall more experience as well.

Cyclops should win via powerscaling but via feats Captain america.

 

[Kettei]

Cyclops should win via powerscaling but via feats Captain america.

It would come down to hand to hand combat. All Cap has to do is block his rays with his shield. Then they would duke it out.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

All the feats you've read, I've done so and better, I've actually read the comics the confirmed feats came forth from and know they are true. I've read countless information regarding to the avengers feats, let alone thor. More than you did in 5 minutes. :|

It took me literally 60 seconds to learn all that information of which YOU failed bring to the table. bahahaha! Just so you know, I've only researched Thor and Falcon. Everything else was prior knowledge.

'Countless' information that you did not bring into this debate.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

It would come down to hand to hand combat. All Cap has to do is block his rays with his shield. Then they would duke it out.

Why I said powerscaling is because Cyclops is hinted to being moon/planetoid level when it comes to the sheer power of his lasers, but via feats of being able to block attacks like that, CA should win. It depends on who plays the smartest.

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

It took me literally 60 seconds to learn all that information of which YOU failed bring to the table. bahahaha! Just so you know, I've only researched Thor and Falcon. Everything else was prior knowledge.

'Countless' information that you did not bring into this debate.

Information that was not needed, because thor v. storm is not a fight. I explained to you how she is outclassed in every way, now I could've written immense paragraphs of thors speed, strength and durability feats with confirmed calculations, but all I needed were sentences for such a futile matchup.

 

[xjimbox]

Now what about Cap and Cyclops? Captain has better reflexes and speed. He has overall more experience as well.

I guess u forgot that I said cyclops is a martial arts master....

 

[Kettei]

I guess u forgot that I said cyclops is a martial arts master....

No I didn't forget. However in the fighting category Cap has one more bar than Cyclops. And I havent really seen any great fighting capabilities of Cyclops. Sure he trained under Wolverine but Cap is all about fighting since he doesnt have any superpowers. Thats his specialty, his hand to hand combat.