[Spoilers] Sakura entering Sage Mode?

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I never said you were wrong on the fact that Sakura has supposedly more raw strength than the Raikage, I said your reasoning for saying she's a "fighter" was flawed. This is JUST raw strength, and in this manga it doesn't mean anything. Thus far, Sakura's abilities in battle have been shallow to say the least.

Yes, Kishi DOES go out of his way to make her seem strong, what with everyone on the battlefield praising her for her strength and all. But, you know, Obito could say she's way stronger than him, it wouldn't matter : She still hasn't done anything. Yes, she heals and it diverts from her being able to really fight, any excuse you want really, it doesn't change the fact that Kishi is only trying to do a simple thing here : That's character buildup, informed abilities.

When you can't/don't want to make a character do a lot of impressive things, which would normally earn him a to be labelled a "fighter", then you just have everyone around praise them, and your readers, who aren't familiar with those kind of tropes, well they buy it. They buy it when you basically say "Look, you all said I poorly developed my main heroine, well now even the strongest Hokage acknowledges her!". Yes, that's good, but how about SOME ACTION THEN.

I won't consider Sakura a fighter as long as she doesn't fight on par with Sasuke and Naruto, which sadly is going to be : Most likely never. Indeed, she's way above your average Juunin level, and that's even more impressive when you take in consideration she's only 16-17. But here's the thing : Sakura is supposed to be the main heroine, right? Do you really feel that, as of now, she's done as much as Naruto and Sasuke? Do you feel that, even if she suddenly became super strong via Sage Mode or whatever, it would somehow erase the poor showings she had all throughout the manga?

Those questions all boil down to what you believe, really. I'm not trying to argue with you, it's really no use trying to argue about someone's favorite character. It's just that those questions have, in my case, negative answers, which make me say : Sakura isn't a fighter as of now, and there seem to be too few chapters left for anything "big scale" she might do not to seem like a Deus Ex Machina. And keep in mind by that I don't mean "She just can't be of any use now, no matter what" I'm saying "If she manages to do something which deeply affects the battle now, via non-hinted at powerup or strategy, it will be a Deus Ex Machina."
 

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I never said you were wrong on the fact that Sakura has supposedly more raw strength than the Raikage, I said your reasoning for saying she's a "fighter" was flawed. This is JUST raw strength, and in this manga it doesn't mean anything. Thus far, Sakura's abilities in battle have been shallow to say the least.

Yes, Kishi DOES go out of his way to make her seem strong, what with everyone on the battlefield praising her for her strength and all. But, you know, Obito could say she's way stronger than him, it wouldn't matter : She still hasn't done anything. Yes, she heals and it diverts from her being able to really fight, any excuse you want really, it doesn't change the fact that Kishi is only trying to do a simple thing here : That's character buildup, informed abilities.

When you can't/don't want to make a character do a lot of impressive things, which would normally earn him a to be labelled a "fighter", then you just have everyone around praise them, and your readers, who aren't familiar with those kind of tropes, well they buy it. They buy it when you basically say "Look, you all said I poorly developed my main heroine, well now even the strongest Hokage acknowledges her!". Yes, that's good, but how about SOME ACTION THEN.

I won't consider Sakura a fighter as long as she doesn't fight on par with Sasuke and Naruto, which sadly is going to be : Most likely never. Indeed, she's way above your average Juunin level, and that's even more impressive when you take in consideration she's only 16-17. But here's the thing : Sakura is supposed to be the main heroine, right? Do you really feel that, as of now, she's done as much as Naruto and Sasuke? Do you feel that, even if she suddenly became super strong via Sage Mode or whatever, it would somehow erase the poor showings she had all throughout the manga?

Those questions all boil down to what you believe, really. I'm not trying to argue with you, it's really no use trying to argue about someone's favorite character. It's just that those questions have, in my case, negative answers, which make me say : Sakura isn't a fighter as of now, and there seem to be too few chapters left for anything "big scale" she might do not to seem like a Deus Ex Machina. And keep in mind by that I don't mean "She just can't be of any use now, no matter what" I'm saying "If she manages to do something which deeply affects the battle now, via non-hinted at powerup or strategy, it will be a Deus Ex Machina."
If Sakura isn't a fighter because she doesn't fight on par with Naruto and Sasuke. Noone else is a fighter besides a few kage and uh kakashi and the antagonists currently.

She has had character development, it just hasn't been combat related in terms of power ups. People don't like that so she is classed to have horrible development. the status of main character doesn't come with the being beast at fighting of super strong. She was the main character to be depicted as the normal girl no?

Not to mention naruto and sasuke are a part of a bigger plot dynamic than her, so they would get more focus between the two. Whereas she has team 7 and neo sannin plot which are lesser than the naruto sasuke, two sons parallel.

As far as i'm concerned she has become pretty damn good and her seal release will also be good and if she gets sage mode. They will probably be the last things she gets. Among other things she still is the female of the set i don't see any female characters greatly developed other than tsunade. So she is pretty well developed if you ask me.
 
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Females do get the short end of the stick in Naruto. But you'd expect Kishi to make an exception for the main heroine.

She's not a fighter because she's overhyped. Compare what everyone says about her and what she actually does. Plus I'm not saying anyone who isn't on par with Naruto and Sasuke isn't a fighter, I'm saying SHE isn't. Why? I already said it, she's supposed to be the heroine. You always expect more from main characters, and Sakura doesn't hold up to her status, at least not in my book.

How does she have good development? First off, it's a shonen manga, development comes a lot from fights. And even if you only take in account other developments, she doesn't have much. Hell, the major part of her character development is about her not wanting to be useless and protected by Naruto & Sasuke all the time. For God's sake, we didn't even know anything about her parents, her life, etc... Before a few fillers and the Road to Ninja movie. Seriously, you can sum up her persona with two things : "I don't want to be a load" (which is good, mind you, but would be better if she actually managed not to be a load) and "Sasuke-kun!" (okay, she toned it down a lot, but really not enough)

Sakura isn't a worthy heroine. With what she's shown thus far, she really doesn't deserve to be a main character. She'd be a really good non-primary character, but she's really short of being a good heroine. If Kishi can introduce a Sage Mode without it feeling too rushed or convenient, and Sakura then shows some ability, I won't complain, trust me.
 

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Females do get the short end of the stick in Naruto. But you'd expect Kishi to make an exception for the main heroine.

She's not a fighter because she's overhyped. Compare what everyone says about her and what she actually does. Plus I'm not saying anyone who isn't on par with Naruto and Sasuke isn't a fighter, I'm saying SHE isn't. Why? I already said it, she's supposed to be the heroine. You always expect more from main characters, and Sakura doesn't hold up to her status, at least not in my book.

How does she have good development? First off, it's a shonen manga, development comes a lot from fights. And even if you only take in account other developments, she doesn't have much. Hell, the major part of her character development is about her not wanting to be useless and protected by Naruto & Sasuke all the time. For God's sake, we didn't even know anything about her parents, her life, etc... Before a few fillers and the Road to Ninja movie. Seriously, you can sum up her persona with two things : "I don't want to be a load" (which is good, mind you, but would be better if she actually managed not to be a load) and "Sasuke-kun!" (okay, she toned it down a lot, but really not enough)

Sakura isn't a worthy heroine. With what she's shown thus far, she really doesn't deserve to be a main character. She'd be a really good non-primary character, but she's really short of being a good heroine. If Kishi can introduce a Sage Mode without it feeling too rushed or convenient, and Sakura then shows some ability, I won't complain, trust me.
We've seen her go through alot of emotional development. She isn't the same as she was in part one. She's learned the struggles of others she never experienced and it's made her better. She even had some of her own to deal with.

In this manga what other females could compete for that spot, tsunade is hokage so i can't say her. However i see where you are coming from when you don't feel like she is done justice, however she is what she is love or hate her. If he does it it won't feel rushed trust me. He knows how to give explanations.
 

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Then why is Kishi going out of his way to suggest her strength is on par or perhaps even stronger than Tsunade who was confirmed by Madara to be stronger than the Raikage?

While I'll agree her accomplishments definitely get the short end of the stick due to the immaturity of this community, I wouldn't go as far to say she's not a fighter. She isn't done participating in this battle.
I said she isn't like Naruto or Sasuke.
And it'd be right to think like that, since Naruto and Sasuke are fighters ONLY. Naruto doesn't know the Fuuinjutsu he was supposed to know, for instance.
Sakura being an equal in terms of fighting power and having healing abilities is actually giving her a higher position as a character.

Though, I agree she'll fight. And she doesn't even need another power up. Have you seen that punch?
She'll probably fight with the army.
 

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I said she isn't like Naruto or Sasuke.
And it'd be right to think like that, since Naruto and Sasuke are fighters ONLY. Naruto doesn't know the Fuuinjutsu he was supposed to know, for instance.
Sakura being an equal in terms of fighting power and having healing abilities is actually giving her a higher position as a character.

Though, I agree she'll fight. And she doesn't even need another power up. Have you seen that punch?
She'll probably fight with the army.
What ? Throwing random punches doesnt make you equal to a kyuubi jinchuriki or an uchiha with an EMS :/

What manga are you reading ??
 

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If byakugou was their sage mode it would have gotten emphasised when tsunade show cased it. Only now tsunade is healed and sakura has gotten her seal we get the slug connection to the forest. Chapters ago it was called equally famous to the other two places.

Logic kinda leans to us not seeing anything from shikkotsu forest yet. In terms of sage mode.
The real question is why showcase a Sage Mode with Sakura when Tsunade was her master? If we were to see it, then I would prefer Tsunade showcase it first especially since Sakura still calls Katsuyu "Katsuyu-sama." The dynamics just seem weird to me. Of course, I'm basing this all on how Naruto learned Sage Mode. Plus, I don't want either her or Sasuke to have Sage Mode. It'd become too common at that point and take away from Naruto's feat.
 

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What ? Throwing random punches doesnt make you equal to a kyuubi jinchuriki or an uchiha with an EMS :/

What manga are you reading ??
I didn't say she is, dammit. First line of my comment.
I'll rephrase it.
"Sakura being an equal in terms of fighting power and having healing abilities would actually give her a higher position as a character."
Now it's better.
 

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The real question is why showcase a Sage Mode with Sakura when Tsunade was her master? If we were to see it, then I would prefer Tsunade showcase it first especially since Sakura still calls Katsuyu "Katsuyu-sama." The dynamics just seem weird to me. Of course, I'm basing this all on how Naruto learned Sage Mode. Plus, I don't want either her or Sasuke to have Sage Mode. It'd become too common at that point and take away from Naruto's feat.
The honorific "Katsuyu-sama" implies Katsuyu having a position of instruction or authority which would make sense if Sakura was under tutelage from the slugs. Sakura was always more respectful and never had the dim-witted sarcasm angle that Naruto has with Tsunade or the Toads. I.E. "Granny", "Pervy-Sage".
 

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Look, don't have time to respond to all things, wish I had like it the past but do remember this... Even though Tsunade never acquired Sage Mode or didn't train for it, do remember that the training is done by the Animal Trinities themselves, not by their masters.
Jiraiya didn't taught Naruto Sage Mode nor Orochimaru taught Kabuto. BOTH of them learned from the animals themselves.
So Sakura could've very well trained with Katsuyu...
 

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I said she isn't like Naruto or Sasuke.
And it'd be right to think like that, since Naruto and Sasuke are fighters ONLY. Naruto doesn't know the Fuuinjutsu he was supposed to know, for instance.
Sakura being an equal in terms of fighting power and having healing abilities is actually giving her a higher position as a character.

Though, I agree she'll fight. And she doesn't even need another power up. Have you seen that punch?
She'll probably fight with the army.
How come healing only gets recognized when it's in conjunction with fighting? Then it's overpowered.

I really don't agree with this. The Catch-22 of being able to heal is you can really only do one thing at a time - hence why Byakugo no Jutsu is so powerful in the hands of Tsunade and even then she's really only healing herself. However, I'm almost positive we won't see this specific jutsu from Sakura because Tsunade said she was the only one who knew it plus it's a kinjutsu. Granted, that doesn't stop the Gates from being taught or Edo Tensei getting sprinkled around but we'll see.

Considering the different names of the seals Tsunade and Sakura have (Yin vs. White) I think it's much more likely that Sakura has different jutsu with a more offensive angle. This is a hypothesis though.
 

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The real question is why showcase a Sage Mode with Sakura when Tsunade was her master? If we were to see it, then I would prefer Tsunade showcase it first especially since Sakura still calls Katsuyu "Katsuyu-sama." The dynamics just seem weird to me. Of course, I'm basing this all on how Naruto learned Sage Mode. Plus, I don't want either her or Sasuke to have Sage Mode. It'd become too common at that point and take away from Naruto's feat.
I didn't include sasuke, we already seen DSM he doesn't need it. He's good enough w/o it as well.

We haven't seen slugs senjutsu and i've been told tsunade stated jiraya was the only one of the 3 to be able to pull off SM. However i haven't been able to locate that in the manga so ill ignore it.

I don't mind Tsunade doing it but its like, Sakura is suppose to be doing some surpassing. Tsunade showing another over the top ability (unless its imperfect) leaves no room for surpassing.
 

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I think Sakura, along with the rest of the Shinobi Alliance and the coming Gokages, will focus their efforts against Madara to foil him and his trump card, as foreshadowed by Shikamaru's speech:

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