Yata Mirror 101

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You know I am starting to think that everyone actually knows this and it is just haterz that either ignore these facts or cherry pick on what will fit their argument best, these two a prime examples:



Cherry picker: only took the Kunai into account not the actual data book that states it adapts to whatever hits it to mitigate the damage.



Ignorance: this guy does talk a little truth everything in Naruto doesn't exactly float that well because Kishi could just change anything at any moment (e.g. making Sakura the most powerful character in Naruto) the thing is this is the evidence that stands true in present times there is nothing false about it, it can only become irrelevant if Kishi decides to change it.

Not at all. Kishi could bring yata back(for sasuke, for exemple), and show obito destroying it, just like you said. He can make anything he wants. All we know about yata is what black zetsu said, and what we've seen(the mirror blocking some paper bombs). Zetsu could be making an hyperbole, or he couldn't. Yata can be invencible, or it can't be. Like I said. what we've seen is yata blocking every atack used against it, not all atacks in NV. So, it's invencibility is a possibility, it's not "for sure"

The databook I explained it already.
 

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Well yea, its a godly defense. Something really special would be needed to get past it.
 

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Everything need simply manga panel to be true... so Yata is not exception...

Kishi doesn't need to now show to us Yata Mirror blocking all possible Techniques... No he just give so much hax ability to Obito that he can turn "all Ninjutsu to nothing", IF Yata can turn back that ability or block it, then it is clear for me THAT YATA IS INVINCIBLE but if it can;t then this is not invincible but then it would have to tested against TBB , PS Slash etc.
 

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yata mirror technically blocks everything and hasn't been proven otherwise. However, seeing other powerful characters, Narutobase members decided to downplay yata mirror for their own convenience.

This^, but that is a old databook it's been disproved many times like how it said all susano'o have yata mirror and totsuka blade, or how you need tsukiyomi and amaterasu for susano'o
 

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each of Sage of six paths tools > yata Mirror

Kishi just make new databook and says Sage of six paths + any of his weapons > Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade

and then it is true and previous databook is as important as memory and nothing more...
 

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This^, but that is a old databook it's been disproved many times like how it said all susano'o have yata mirror and totsuka blade, or how you need tsukiyomi and amaterasu for susano'o

Lets take Sword of Totsuka as an example it has been used on 2 powerful characters and succeeded both times without any trouble.

Orchimaru when he took over Sasuke's body - can be argued he was in a weakened state.

Full powered Nagato - it ended him quickly and he could do nothing to get out of it.

If one of Itachi's weapons stands true why can't his Yata mirror?
 
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Lets take Sword of Totsuka as an example it has been used on 2 powerful characters and succeeded both times without any trouble.

Orchimaru when he took over Sasuke's body - can be argued he was in a weakened state.

Full powered Nagato - it ended him quickly and he could do nothing to get out of it.

If one of his weapons stands true why can't his Yata mirror?


First one I agree with ;), But The second one was controlled by Kabuto, besides Nagato didn't have any reason to release himself from Totsuka Blade sealing as Kabuto would took control over him again and attack Naruto and Killer bee, maybe even dispossing of Itachi... , so Nagato's case hardly counts as Totsuka feat...

If Nagato was enemy and not controlled who want to get rid of Itachi and Itachi sealed him with Totsuka then that another story...

But this was wrong example sorry... Nagato was summoned and controlled as Edo Tensei while would he want to give any more toubles to Itachi and co ,while he was on their side already...
 

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yata mirror technically blocks everything and hasn't been proven otherwise. However, seeing other powerful characters, Narutobase members decided to downplay yata mirror for their own convenience.
Pretty much.

There is no reason to believe that the yata mirror cannot block every attack.
 

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Lets take Sword of Totsuka as an example it has been used on 2 powerful characters and succeeded both times without any trouble.

Orchimaru when he took over Sasuke's body - can be argued he was in a weakened state.

Full powered Nagato - it ended him quickly and he could do nothing to get out of it.

If one of his weapons stands true why can't his Yata mirror?

Sigh... there is a difference. Totsuka has sealed everything it has pierced so far. It hasn't sealed everything in NV. Like I said before, as itachi died, we never got to see the extend of it's power. It might seal everything it pierces, it might not. As I said before, we don't know. It's a possibility, so far. The same for yata.
 

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Destryoy the susano and yata mirror and totsuka vanishes like a smoke.
 

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yata mirror technically blocks everything and hasn't been proven otherwise. However, seeing other powerful characters, Narutobase members decided to downplay yata mirror for their own convenience.

I agree with this!
 

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Pretty much.

There is no reason to believe that the yata mirror cannot block every attack.

True same as there is no reason to believe that yata Mirror CAN block every attack ;)

So we have paradox, let's then leave it to everyone's decission if it can or not, or just using logic lol

yata blocked some explosive notes, hydra heads and just reflected Sasuke with Sworld..., poor manga feats in compare to current mountain busters and above lol

EDIT: Zetsu said that Itachi was invicible with these two weapons and we know that Zetsu was created and taught everything by Madara...

Then If Mdara didn't find and use these weapons while he could lol... instead he used Perfect Sussano... there must be reasons why Madara didn't wield these two weapons...

maybe they can't do shit against something with overhelming power... as Kishi proved by Pain words to Tsunade: "Against Overhelming power, everything looses meaning"
 
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True same as there is no reason to believe that yata Mirror CAN block every attack ;)

So we have paradox, let's then leave it to everyone's decission if it can or not, or just using logic lol

yata blocked some explosive notes, hydra heads and just reflected Sasuke with Sworld..., pure manga feats in compare to current mountain busters and above lol

This. Finally someone who can think of possibilities instead of getting blind by what the databook states.
 

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First one I agree with ;), But The second one was controlled by Kabuto, besides Nagato didn't have any reason to release himself from Totsuka Blade sealing as Kabuto would took control over him again and attack Naruto and Killer bee, maybe even dispossing of Itachi... , so Nagato's case hardly counts as Totsuka feat...

If Nagato was enemy and not controlled who want to get rid of Itachi and Itachi sealed him with Totsuka then that another story...

But this was wrong example sorry... Nagato was summoned and controlled as Edo Tensei while would he want to give any more toubles to Itachi and co ,while he was on their side already...

So your implying Totsuka Blade severed the link between edo Nagato and Kabato that same power that bound 2nd Hokage but could not bind the first, so are we going to put Totsuka Blade on the same level as Hashi? Kind of what your implying.
 

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The yata mirror isn't a physical object.
So is kamui since its ability is to bend space.
it will teleport yata mirror or susano somewhere else, thus removing it from battlefield.
 

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Lets take Sword of Totsuka as an example it has been used on 2 powerful characters and succeeded both times without any trouble.

Orchimaru when he took over Sasuke's body - can be argued he was in a weakened state.

Full powered Nagato - it ended him quickly and he could do nothing to get out of it.

If one of Itachi's weapons stands true why can't his Yata mirror?

I'm not saying it's not true but even so your argument is flawed. Just cause one works doesn't mean the other does. But as I said I'm not saying yata mirror isn't practically invincible. But its useless against current obito
 

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So is kamui since its ability is to bend space.
it will teleport yata mirror or susano somewhere else, thus removing it from battlefield.

Or the Yata would change its properties to remain. Imagine the Kamui on Yata, but as the Kamui spins in an attempt to bend the Yata in on itself, the Yata spins in the opposite direction so as to appear it's not moving at all.
 

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So is kamui since its ability is to bend space.
it will teleport yata mirror or susano somewhere else, thus removing it from battlefield.

Sorry but no as much as I love Obito(no homo :|) susano'o is made up of chakra you can't teleport chakra. Yata mirror is a part of susano'o you can't teleport it
 
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