I love it when you put it that way that annoys me too that Naruto is too dimwitted to see that Konoha and ninja alliance is using him
Well that I agree, you are correct and at the same time not, most characters in shounen mangas would have become eveil ate 1st and wpould have followed the path Gaara followed, well it would have been more understandable if Naruto became eveil for quite some time, my point is; Naruto needs/ needed some evil time![]()
"Im not gonna run away and I never go back on my word"
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lol at the Menma being a good villain posts.![]()
I think you have a point there, but i still wondering how kakashi didn't notice that naruto was minato's son. He was his student afterall.
That is why recently when kakashi was stabbing obito he mentioned that he sees that Naruto will never give up. That's why Naruto Is the next SO6P. He will turn everything wrong in the world into harmony

But the thing is that he never did something bad against the villagers, they just ignored him and treated him like trash, kind of, but also made prank jokes so he could get noticed, if you really look in a positive way, he never did something ''bad'' against konoha.
A shinobi is a weapon.I know, they treats him like a weapon i hate that, i hate the fact he still good.
I know, they treats him like a weapon i hate that, i hate the fact he still good.
If menma did exist![]()
"Im not gonna run away and I never go back on my word"
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lol at the Menma being a good villain posts.![]()
He could... He was kicking naruto's ass but like always plot time + plot armor.
I see no good points.they say good points though *_*
All the reasons you listed, only give Naruto reason to hate Konoha, but to turn on them and want revenge and kill them and stuff? That's a bit petty. it's nowhere near a good enough reason to turn on an entire nation and attack/kill all it's people. It's quite moronic and is pretty much what Sasuke was going to do. This would only be valid if Naruto was a weak willed person, but that is not his character, so it's more so his character than plot-shield. It's when there is a huge inconsistency in the manga that plot-shield and all that come into play.
I think he noticed when Naruto mastered rasenshuriken.. well that was a bit late too
Yep that was late because nobody ''hated'' him anymore, he just got acknowledged by everyone after he defeated pain.
Yeah he should have acted like Gaara and Utakata.. those jinchuurikis are reasonable ones.. theyt respond well to people that hate them U_U
A shinobi is a weapon.
If only current Naruto was smart and evil like menma.. no one would blame him for being evil anyway
You mean him kicking Base Naruto's ass? Nope still not worthy of being a good villain.Menma is a one time villain he wouldn't be entertaining in the main series we already have our evil Naruto called Obito Uchiha.
All the reasons you listed, only give Naruto reason to hate Konoha, but to turn on them and want revenge and kill them and stuff? That's a bit petty. it's nowhere near a good enough reason to turn on an entire nation and attack/kill all it's people. It's quite moronic and is pretty much what Sasuke was going to do. This would only be valid if Naruto was a weak willed person, but that is not his character, so it's more so his character than plot-shield. It's when there is a huge inconsistency in the manga that plot-shield and all that come into play.
Rin? Don't care doesn't change the fact that he's the Evil version of Naruto.Its not even hard to figure this out smh.Don't compare obito with naruto, it's embarrassing. Everything because of '' rin ''.
A shinobi is a weapon.
I see no good points.
Memna is just a copy paste version of obito he is the real Anti Naruto.All i see about the Menma being a good villain is him destroying Konoha and beating Base Naruto before getting his ass beaten moments after.
Rin? Don't care doesn't change the fact that he's the Evil version of Naruto.Its not even hard to figure this out smh.
End of the day Menma is a one time fake who is a copy and paste version of Obito just more lame.
I assumed my point was easily graspable.your point is?
And because 'Menma' uses 'logic' he's a good villain? He isn't even threatening Itachi during part 1 gave a more dangerous presence even though he turned out to be good.I want some good reasons on all this Menma is a good villain stuff cause i'm not getting it.I can name better villains in Naruto easily.
I think you don't get it, Menma has what Naruto lacks: "ability to use logic"
I assumed my point was easily graspable.