Why do people think Hiruzen has anything worthwhile in store for us?

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Just asking.

There seems to be false hope that's lingering around the base... people are hoping that Hiruzen will show us anything that will make him Top 10 based off of invalidated hype from over 500 chapters ago.

Per his own admittance, Hiruzen wouldn't have been able to stand up to Orochimaru to a one-on-one fight:
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You can say he has unlimited stamina now, compared to before, but the fact remains that he still has the speed and strength of an average shinobi; even his son Asuma was faster (a great deal faster). The only person that Hiruzen being an Edo would put him above is Tsunade, but going by his own words he's still under Part 1 Orochimaru, much less Sage Mode Jiraiya and his toads, much less current Orochimaru.
 

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I don't see why anyone wants him alive. He's pretty weak/dumb/old/gay etc..
 

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People have that false hope because there was so much hype around him. He was said to be the strongest Kage of his time. That means he was supposedly stronger than A, 4th Kazekage, Ohnoki, and Mei. From what we've seen, I find that hype hard to believe. I don't think we'll see anything spectacular from Hiruzen though, it's like Kishi has retconned all that past hype for Hiruzen. I don't think Hiruzen could ever even reach top 15 much less top 10.
 

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Because every other Kage has had their chance to shine so far, except for him. He's only shown 1 tech, and that was a lame one that Naruto did when he was first fighting Zabuza.

He's gonna make a huge comeback in a few chapters and make a spot in the top 3 soon, his bandwagon is on the way.
 

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Because he was considered the strongest ninja in the world for a long time.
 

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If he was in his prime, maybe he would've been the major supporter in the war. But now he's nothing more than a decoy to analyze the techniques of Obito.
 

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i thinks its kind of not right for us to judge hiruzen....coz no where have we seen the younger hiruzen in action so no one knows what he was like when he was at his peak...
 

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If he was in his prime, maybe he would've been the major supporter in the war. But now he's nothing more than a decoy to analyze the techniques of Obito.

and even the decoy thing won't work now since the edo's can "die"
 

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Because every other Kage has had their chance to shine so far, except for him. He's only shown 1 tech, and that was a lame one that Naruto did when he was first fighting Zabuza.

He's gonna make a huge comeback in a few chapters and make a spot in the top 3 soon, his bandwagon is on the way.

What? He admitted inferiority to Part 1 Orochimaru; he doubted he could even stand up to the might of his student. The only difference between that Hiruzen and Edo Hiruzen is that Edo Hiruzen has unlimited stamina and needs to be sealed. However, the difference between Part 1 Orochimaru and current Orochimaru is a body filled with Hashirama's cells, and we all know what Hashirama's cells can do to one. Hiruzen's below current Orochimaru, and it's hard to say he would win against Sage Mode Jiraiya and Gamaken, Gamabunta, Gamakichi, etc.

Because he was considered the strongest ninja in the world for a long time.

That's just as valid as the statement saying he was the strongest Kage at the time of his death, putting him above the Yondaime Raikage, Onoki, Yagura(?), and the Yondaime Kazekage. And we all know how true that is, considering the fact that per his own admittance he couldn't stand up to the might of Part 1 Orochimaru. How would he even get close to the Yondaime Kazekage? How would he react to the speed of the Yondaime Raikage? What would he do against jinton? How would he be able to outlast Yagura?
 
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I want Enma to come that monkey was da shxt maybe Enma king was Son Goku and will both release sage mode to get Son Goku
 

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Danzo > Hiruzen ?
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For me he is one of the best in Entire NV ..I dnt care wether he is strong or weaker than Other's I still like that guy.....!

IMO he is the best Kage and Kindest person in entire NV.............!
 

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Danzo > Hiruzen ?
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Yes. Hiruzen doesn't have the stamina to kill Danzo twice over, let alone ten times over. However, before Danzo cheated, he was only one step behind Hiruzen.
 

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For me he is one of the best in Entire NV ..I dnt care wether he is strong or weaker than Other's I still like that guy.....!

IMO he is the best Kage and Kindest person in entire NV.............!

I feel the same, he may come off as weak compared to the other Kages but Hiruzen is still an awesome person. He was like the father or grandfather of all of Konoha during his time and I had alot of respect for him for that.
 

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I feel the same, he may come off as weak compared to the other Kages but Hiruzen is still an awesome person. He was like the father or grandfather of all of Konoha during his time and I had alot of respect for him for that.

One of the best things I like abt 3rd

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Only time will tell
 

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Only time will tell

By his own words, Hiruzen wouldn't be able to stand up to Part 1 Orochimaru if he weren't an Edo. The only difference now is that he has unlimited stamina (and we already know that they can't use more chakra than what they were able to use during their lifetime, as shown when Muu split in half or when the Nidaime Mizukage was using Jokey Boy). No way he's standing up to Sage Mode Jiraiya, Gamakichi, Gamabunta, Gamaken, and Gamahiro when his own words prove otherwise.
 

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If Tsunade can use sealing techniques, she beats the Edo Hiruzen with med- high diff.
 

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He was called the god of shinobi, He isn't in his prime, he is old and he still did a pretty good job against Oro considering his age.
 
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