Sasori vs Tobirama

[Nikes]

Battle Conditions:

No knowledge for either 2.
Flat grass land.
Life or death situation.
All jutsu known is used in battle.

Who wins?

Don't use hype for either ninja, think about their abilities.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Seeing as but a clone of Tobirama beat KCM Minato to the ball of chakra so quickly that Minato, Sasuke, and Naruto (it can be assumed that the exclamation marks were his reaction to the Susanoo being formed) couldn't sense its approach, I can't see Sasori touching him:

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[Fecal Matter]

Seeing as but a clone of Tobirama beat KCM Minato to the ball of chakra so quickly that Minato, Sasuke, and Naruto (it can be assumed that the exclamation marks were his reaction to the Susanoo being formed) couldn't sense its approach, I can't see Sasori touching him:

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We don't know how much ground he covered so i can hardly call that a feat.

 

[Shura]

Sasori mid - high diff.​

 

[EZQ]

1- Tobirama's BASE SPEED (sunshin) is fast enough to blitz sasori and mark him

2- Then with the mark he can use FTG all he wants

BUT, tobirama still needs to show a raw power jutsu, because he aint beating sasori with just FTG, and i'm not sure if FTG SLASH would pierce even hiruko

 

[Sacrosanct]

We don't know how much ground he covered so i can hardly call that a feat.

The fact that but a clone beat KCM Minato (who used to be praised as the fastest character in NV, with reaction speed to die for) to it at a farther distance from it than KCM Minato says leaps and bounds.

 

[Penguin]

Hiruko solos.

 

[Shura]

1- Tobirama's BASE SPEED (sunshin) is fast enough to blitz sasori and mark him

Lmfao. Show me a feat of Tobirama's Base Speed that suggests that he can blitz Sasori with it.​

 

[Penguin]

Lmfao. Show me a feat of Tobirama's Base Speed that suggests that he can blitz Sasori with it.​

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He has great speed, but Hiruko's booby traps are very difficult for any non puppet user to deal with.

 

[Fecal Matter]

The fact that but a clone beat KCM Minato (who used to be praised as the fastest character in NV, with reaction speed to die for) to it at a farther distance from it than KCM Minato says leaps and bounds.

Doesn't change the fact that we don't know where Tobirama's clone was.His shunshin is slower than Base Minato's by a large margin.Tobirama ain't blitzing jackshit.

 

[EZQ]

Lmfao. Show me a feat of Tobirama's Base Speed that suggests that he can blitz Sasori with it.​

Tobirama used sunshin to get to the bomb in the manga 641... //

Lool for the scans, even faster than minato..

 

[Shura]

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He has great speed, but Hiruko's booby traps are very difficult for any non puppet user to deal with.

We don't know how far away Tobirama was from Minato in the first scan and in the second scan Tobirama blitzed Obito only because he was marked so that was FTG not his Base Speed.​

 

[Sacrosanct]

Doesn't change the fact that we don't know where Tobirama's clone was

So, just anyone can beat KCM Minato to something that's right beside him? At a distance that's farther away from it?

His two clones that went to Madara were dispelled along with Hashirama's six. It's a plausible explanation that Tobirama sensed the ball of chakra near them, created a clone, and then the clone proceeded to do what we've seen it do in the manga.

We don't know how far away Tobirama was from Minato in the first scan and in the second scan Tobirama blitzed Obito only because he was marked so that was FTG not his Base Speed.​

It's not relevant how far away the clone was from KCM Minato and the ball of chakra, what's relevant is that the clone beat KCM Minato to the ball of chakra in the first place, when the clone was farther away from the ball of chakra than KCM Minato was. Beating KCM Minato to something is a feat in and of itself, but the clone did it at a farther distance. We don't know how far, nor does it matter, the fact is that the clone beat KCM Minato to it.

 

[Fecal Matter]

So, just anyone can beat KCM Minato to something that's right beside him? At a distance that's farther away from it?

You mean that ball that was on the side of his body where his arm wasn't present? Tobirama is fast but you're obviously using this one situation to completely blow it out of proportion.Like i said he isn't blitzing anyone.

His two clones that went to Madara were dispelled along with Hashirama's six. It's a plausible explanation that Tobirama sensed the ball of chakra near them, created a clone, and then the clone proceeded to do what we've seen it do in the manga.

I don't care for all we know he might've been close or far away.My point still stands he isn't blitzing Sasori and he isn't winning this either.

 

[Nikes]

So, just anyone can beat KCM Minato to something that's right beside him? At a distance that's farther away from it?

His two clones that went to Madara were dispelled along with Hashirama's six. It's a plausible explanation that Tobirama sensed the ball of chakra near them, created a clone, and then the clone proceeded to do what we've seen it do in the manga.



It's not relevant how far away the clone was from KCM Minato and the ball of chakra, what's relevant is that the clone beat KCM Minato to the ball of chakra in the first place, when the clone was farther away from the ball of chakra than KCM Minato was. Beating KCM Minato to something is a feat in and of itself, but the clone did it at a farther distance. We don't know how far, nor does it matter, the fact is that the clone beat KCM Minato to it.

Minato was going to ftg it and himself away. He just diverted the attack away. It's impressive but Tobirama speed blitzes Sasori and then what? He can't defeat Hiruko let alone defeat the 3rd Kazekage.

Overkill would include Sasoris 100 puppet jutsu that was used to take down a country.

 

[Bogard]

@Sacrosanct off-panel feat is hardly relevant from the moment Tobirama disappeard during one and a half chapter, so we know nothing from his actions or analysis he was doing at that moment, including his position. He was also not on the way of fire. It's clear as day that the ones on the way of fire would have a hard time to analyse a situation carefully in the contrary of someone else coming from nowhere, outside the range and just watching. Not even mentioning the fact that Minato lost his right arm there. The ball was closer to his right arm, so he didn't only had to notice in time, but also react to the ball by throwing his opposite hand in order to catch it and send it away. It's already manga fact that Base Minato is faster than Tobirama btw

 

[Penguin]

@Sacrosanct off-panel feat is hardly relevant from the moment Tobirama disappeard during one and a half chapter, so we know nothing from his actions or analysis he was doing at that moment, including his position. He was also not on the way of fire. It's clear as day that the ones on the way of fire would have a hard time to analyse a situation carefully in the contrary of someone else coming from nowhere, outside the range and just watching. Not even mentioning the fact that Minato lost his right arm there. The ball was closer to his right arm, so he didn't only had to notice in time, but also react to the ball by throwing his opposite hand in order to catch it and send it away. It's already manga fact that Base Minato is faster than Tobirama btw

Not that much faster. The thing is Tobirama reacted faster and beat Minato to the ball. That is a feat. No one is disputing Minato's shunshin > Tobirama's.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Tobirama mid diff.

 

[Bogard]

Not that much faster. The thing is Tobirama reacted faster and beat Minato to the ball. That is a feat. No one is disputing Minato's shunshin > Tobirama's.

Like i've said, we don't know what he was doing during his long disappearance of one and a half chapter, we have no idea of his actions or positions during all that. It's exactly like Kakashi and Gai for example saved Naruto from Obito when they appeared. It doesn't mean they are faster than Naruto. We have no idea of their positions or actions, but we know they were analysing things the entire time according to Obito. Reason why off-panel feats like this one are hardly relevant

 

[Fecal Matter]

I change my mind Tobirama wins mid diff.