Tobirama lacks fire power.

[Nikes]

Tobirama>Kisame

For now he hasn't shown too many offensive feats but swordplay+FTG is enuff. Kisame isn't close to the top 10.

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Kisame's abilities>Tobiramas

 

[Nafee]

Did you see tobirama's edo tensei bomb. He can take out the entire akatsuki with that plus edo madara. None of them has shown enough feats to dodge or block such a powerful attack. I dont even need to say FTG gg!dat lawd tobirama

 

[Nikes]

.....You haven't seen tobirama's fighting style.. the way Madara talked, he wipes the battlefield clean with destruction... and he said that the paper bomb explosion thing was only one of the techniques he invented for his edo tensei's... you have no idea what else he's capable of.. He is a senju after all , and they are known for being masters of Nin , Tai and Genjutsu..

Like I said, until he shows otherwise he doesn't have any of them.

By that reasoning wouldn't Kakashi be super high on the tier list with all the copied jutsu he has that he hasn't shown?

 

[KingHashirama]

There are a lot of unknown factors of how he used it. One being it isn't that powerful, or else he wouldn't have died or get his ass kicked by jin and kin bros.

or maybe cause he didn't summon a edo then?

 

[- J AV -]

Tobirama has no fire power because he is a water jutsu user.

lol...XD,, tobirama has ET and hirashingiri...

 

[Nikes]

or maybe cause he didn't summon a edo then?

So in a life or death situation he didn't use his almighty jutsu?

Ok I get it, his fighting style prohibits using his edo's..

 

[Fireplay]

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Kisame's abilities>Tobiramas

Tobirama>Kisame.

Feats wise.

Kisame>Tobirama.

Hiraishin GG>Kisame

Nagato solos all.

Gojo>Anything Kisame can pull off.

Tobirama has more firepower then fishsame. If we use Gojo.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Minato>Tobirama, but Tobirama clearly doesn't lack firepower. That's the main reason why some people place him above Minato.

 

[Nafee]

Like I said, until he shows otherwise he doesn't have any of them.

By that reasoning wouldn't Kakashi be super high on the tier list with all the copied jutsu he has that he hasn't shown?

first of all SILENCE! (DAT TOBIRAMA)

SECONDLY, by your logic tonton > SO6P because SO6P hasnt SHOWN any offensive abilties yet and tonton can bite (offensive).

 

[Nikes]

Minato>Tobirama, but Tobirama clearly doesn't lack firepower. That's the main reason why some people place him above Minato.

He has shown 2 offensive moves throughout the whole series.

The explosion and a weak suiton move in part 1.

 

[Nikes]

first of all SILENCE! (DAT TOBIRAMA)

SECONDLY, by your logic tonton > SO6P because SO6P hasnt SHOWN any offensive abilties yet and tonton can bite (offensive).

Well if you want to be ridiculously outrageous about it..

 

[Nafee]

He has shown 2 offensive moves throughout the whole series.

The explosion and a weak suiton move in part 1.

of course, because using FTG to one shot a MS user isnt considered as offense! Kill yourself your threads are worse than mine because I troll and you're being serious

 

[Sennin of Logic]

He has shown 2 offensive moves throughout the whole series.

The explosion and a weak suiton move in part 1.

The explosion is clearly very powerful. Imagine if he used several edos instead of just one for that technique. Also, Tobirama did state "Techniques" It's possible that Tobirama has more powerful moves given Madara's statement.

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[Nafee]

Well if you want to be ridiculously outrageous about it..

I'm just playing by your rules. It's not my fault your logic is lame. Altho it's NB logic so no surprise there

 

[KingHashirama]

So in a life or death situation he didn't use his almighty jutsu?

Ok I get it, his fighting style prohibits using his edo's..

He has already used edos in a battle smartass


And go learn what a coup mean. It wasn't solely Tobirama vs Kinkaku and Ginkaku... It was Kinakaku + ginkaku + Kin/gin Force vs Tobirama.....

Kinkaku and Ginkaku > Kisame.

 

[Nikes]

The explosion is clearly very powerful. Imagine if he used several edos instead of just one for that technique. Also, Tobirama did state "Techniques" It's possible that Tobirama has more powerful moves given Madara's statement.

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I agree that it's powerful, but there are factors to the effectiveness of the attack.

Hashirama binded Obito so he couldn't get away. If Tobirama doesn't have anyone to bind for him then his opponent can escape the explosion. It is a regular explosion, and it can't be compared to a TBB or Deidara's C0.

 

[Nikes]

He has already used edos in a battle smartass


And go learn what a coup mean. It wasn't solely Tobirama vs Kinkaku and Ginkaku... It was Kinakaku + ginkaku + Kin/gin Force vs Tobirama.....

Kinkaku and Ginkaku > Kisame.

When Kin and Gin attacked Tobirama and the 2nd Raikage it was just them. And Tsunade said they left Tobirama near death and killed the 2nd Raikage.

Kisame would destroy Kin and Gin, those type of ninja are what Kisame specializes in. CHAKRA surrounded shinobi.

 

[elsepa]

Totsuka blitz GG , oh wait nvm , still Tobirama is the new Itachi

 

[ballerjordan]

Tobirama will shut you down soon enough

 

[iKaras]

FTG slash. GG for most characters.