SM Rasengan > Yata Mirror

[Dantee]

and wait there are more tools which can chalenge the might of yata

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the sword that crushes any and all defense

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the sword that pierce all .


kishimoto > databook

Kishi actually gave us an explanation in his db about how the weapons work after hyping it up by Zetsu/Oro. What we have hear are fodders going by rumors of the seven swordsmen.

 

[Mellanoma]

and wait there are more tools which can chalenge the might of yata

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the sword that crushes any and all defense

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the sword that pierce all .


kishimoto > databook

Not true because Yata also states "make all other attacks lose there meaning" so against yata they lose there meaning of being unblockable or pierce all thus are blocked by Yata mirror and the universe implodes. Kishimoto put a lot of heart into Itachi uchiha (His favorite Akatsuki member)

Besides if Itachi can ***** slap chidori out of sasuke hand. he can do the same for rasengan.. matter of fact susanoo nut sack could tank rasengan

 

[accept pain]

and wait there are more tools which can chalenge the might of yata

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the sword that crushes any and all defense

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the sword that pierce all .


kishimoto > databook

yes that true...if yata mirror is that invincible then why gaara sand able to pull out madara from susanoo,why not madara made susanoo lock to not go outside.

 

[Mellanoma]

yes that true...if yata mirror is that invincible then why gaara sand able to pull out madara from susanoo,why not madara made susanoo lock to not go outside.

because madara does not have yata lol WTF is this

 

[accept pain]

Not true because Yata also states "make all other attacks lose there meaning" so against yata they lose there meaning of being unblockable or pierce all thus are blocked by Yata mirror and the universe implodes. Kishimoto put a lot of heart into Itachi uchiha (His favorite Akatsuki member)

Besides if Itachi can ***** slap chidori out of sasuke hand. he can do the same for rasengan.. matter of fact susanoo nut sack could tank rasengan

kishimoto favorite? link please

 

[ImNoOne]

Did you just casually read the text how you please?

"All attacks". Can you define all for me please. The word "whether" is used not to specify but to expand on it's prowess. This is further backed by the use of a dictionary.

Fair enough I'll quote it all out.

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The part you want:

"Susano'O boasts an absolute perfect attack and defense because of the Spirit Weapon it wields in both hands: The Ten Handed Sword that can cut down any enemy in it's right, and the Yata Mirror, a shield that can repel any attack."

Then it goes in detail describing how good the shield actually is:

"In the face of a god's powers, all attacks, whether form a material or astral body, ninjutso or physical, lose their meaning."

Material or astral mean either Yin or Yan.
Ninjutso or physical is self explanatory.

So don't come all DB on me because DB agrees with what I'm saying.

 

[Mellanoma]

kishimoto favorite? link please

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[Penguin]

Except sound genjutsu!

 

[Mellanoma]

Astral means non physical...

Senjutsu is made up of natural energy

Natural energy is astral

Yata mirror > Astral

Yata mirror > Natural energy

Itachi never used Yata mirror when he fought Kabuto (Obviously he didnt need it) so you can't say Sound genjutsu > Yata

 

[Dantee]

Fair enough I'll quote it all out.

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The part you want:

"Susano'O boasts an absolute perfect attack and defense because of the Spirit Weapon it wields in both hands: The Ten Handed Sword that can cut down any enemy in it's right, and the Yata Mirror, a shield that can repel any attack."

Then it goes in detail describing how good the shield actually is:

"In the face of a god's powers, all attacks, whether form a material or astral body, ninjutso or physical, lose their meaning."

Material or astral mean either Yin or Yan.
Ninjutso or physical is self explanatory.

So don't come all DB on me because DB agrees with what I'm saying.

I believe you need to go back to my last post and follow my advice about using a dictionary.


"whether" defined "Used to introduce alternative possibilities".

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What I'm saying is Yata Mirror is not just limited to the text you read. It really means all attacks.

 

[raziel777]

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Databook says it alters its attributes.. Not his elements. "Attributes" cover more than just elements, it also cover yin, yan etc..

 

[ImNoOne]

I believe you need to go back to my last post and follow my advice about using a dictionary.


"whether" defined "Used to introduce alternative possibilities".

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What I'm saying is Yata Mirror is not just limited to the text you read. It really means all attacks.

No that's not what is written, and as you are not Kishi you will understand that I rather stick to his written word than to you opinion.

When Kishi says "whether from A or B, C or D" he is establishing limits. It can counter any attack whether if its A, B, C or D. That is establishing limits to the adaptations on it's properties. It can only defend against those types, otherwise Kishi would have not specify any, but he did.

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Databook says it alters its attributes.. Not his elements. "Attributes" cover more than just elements, it also cover yin, yan etc..

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Read the thread before posting, that's not the only description about Yata Mirror there are one with greater detail.

 

[Mellanoma]

No that's not what is written, and as you are not Kishi you will understand that I rather stick to his written word than to you opinion.

When Kishi says "whether from A or B, C or D" he is establishing limits. It can counter any attack whether if its A, B, C or D. That is establishing limits to the adaptations on it's properties. It can only defend against those types, otherwise Kishi would have not specify any, but he did.

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Read the thread before posting, that's not the only description about Yata Mirror there are one with greater detail.

natural energy is astral /thread

 

[Dantee]

No that's not what is written, and as you are not Kishi you will understand that I rather stick to his written word than to you opinion.

When Kishi says "whether from A or B, C or D" he is establishing limits. It can counter any attack whether if its A, B, C or D. That is establishing limits to the adaptations on it's properties. It can only defend against those types, otherwise Kishi would have not specify any, but he did.

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Read the thread before posting, that's not the only description about Yata Mirror there are one with greater detail.

Opinion? :| I only go by what is written by Kishimoto. You go by what is written on fan sites and a half assed meaning of what sage/nature chakra is.

Whether is defined as establishing alternatives not limits. I won't stoop to arguing to the meaning of a simple word that I learned in 4th grade.

 

[ImNoOne]

natural energy is astral /thread

No it's not, Astral is Spiritual. The Yin Release (陰遁, Inton; Viz "Dark Style" or "Shadow Style") aka Genjutso. but nice try.

 

[Mellanoma]

No it's not, Astral is Spiritual. The Yin Release (陰遁, Inton; Viz "Dark Style" or "Shadow Style") aka Genjutso. but nice try.

nope astral means non physical... dont use your own definitions

Natural energy is astral thus Yata blocks it

material means something made of matter... NAtural energy is matter

Yata blocks it

Yin also does not just mean Genjutsu... Susanoo is Yin release

 

[naruttebayo]

Not true because Yata also states "make all other attacks lose there meaning" so against yata they lose there meaning of being unblockable or pierce all thus are blocked by Yata mirror and the universe implodes. Kishimoto put a lot of heart into Itachi uchiha (His favorite Akatsuki member)

Besides if Itachi can ***** slap chidori out of sasuke hand. he can do the same for rasengan.. matter of fact susanoo nut sack could tank rasengan

new manga fact >>> old manga fact

as for example

hiruzen the god of shinobi / strongest hokage old manga fact

hashirama the strongest hokage new manga fact

new manga fact should be excepted


so the bluntsword helmsplitter crushes yata :hooray:

& may be sage mode rasengan

Astral means non physical...

Senjutsu is made up of natural energy

Natural energy is astral

Yata mirror > Astral

Yata mirror > Natural energy

Itachi never used Yata mirror when he fought Kabuto (Obviously he didnt need it) so you can't say Sound genjutsu > Yata

sound = natural energy >>> yata mirror = spritual

 

[ImNoOne]

Non physical = Yin Release. -_-'

 

[Mellanoma]

new manga fact >>> old manga fact

as for example

hiruzen the god of shinobi / strongest hokage old manga fact

hashirama the strongest hokage new manga fact

new manga fact should be excepted


so the bluntsword helmsplitter crushes yata :hooray:

& may be sage mode rasengan





sound = natural energy >>> yata mirror = spritual

Non physical = Yin Release. -_-'

Material = something made of matter
Astral = non physical

Sound is made of matter and is astral
Natural energy is made of matter and is astral

Yata blocks it

Yata does not say block yin or yang release the reason it says material or astral is to better describe it blocks all attacks. maybe kishi knew itachi haters would try to discredit him

To truly bring in science you could say Yata blocks sound vibrations by blocking air itself

or Yata blocks the kinetic energy used to propel a jutsu at it...


I swear your trolling narruuttee

 

[ImNoOne]

Material = something made of matter
Astral = non physical

Sound is made of matter and is astral
Natural energy is made of matter and is astral

Yata blocks it

Yata does not say block yin or yang release the reason it says material or astral is to better describe it blocks all attacks. maybe kishi knew itachi haters would try to discredit him

I swear your trolling narruuttee

In the chakra logic of Narutoverse it's well established that non physical is Yin and physical is Yang. You're the one who's trolling.