Kirin is classed as ninjutsu, ie not useful against Obito.

[Gatsuuga]

I swear there are like 50 threads about how Kirin can damage obito, yet no one has realised it's classed as a ninjutsu in the 3rd data book, page 247 (see naruto wiki). It makes sense that its ninjutsu considering sasuke uses his chakra to direct the lightning but never actually takes it in. Here's how the the wiki explains senjutsu ( I know anyone can edit it but its actually a good canon explanation):

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Senjutsu practitioners learn to draw the energy of nature inside of them, blending it with their own chakra (created from spiritual and physical energy within the shinobi). This adds a new dimension of power to the sage's chakra, resulting in the creation of "senjutsu chakra" (仙術チャクラ, senjutsu chakura).

So because sasuke isn't blending his spiritual and physical energy with the lightning it isn't senjutsu and thus can't hurt obito. If anything it's most skmiliar to a nature transformation ninjutsu only difference being sasuke didn't transform his own chakra into lightning (instead uses the lightning already present).

Hope that clears up some confusion.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Don't listen to sasuke wankers

 

[ImNoOne]

There is no doubt about this. Those who claim otherwise are just ridding Sauce's ****.

 

[slimreaper]

yes the ability to guide and shape the lightning is ninjutsu, but the lightning itself is just lightning thus it can hurt juubito

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[Imperfect]

Classified as Ninjutsu like Rasengan. Doesn't rely on the users Chakra to deal damage, like how Naruto's Sage Mode Rasengan just owned Obito using Natural energy.

Logic. Use it.

 

[RNITBmsage]

ignore those idiots
they're just upset because sasuke is useless right now

 

[saw2097]

Even if it could, its strategically unsound, it takes too much time to set up and they already have a way to hurt Obito so why waste time and chakra to set up a attack that they aren't sure would work and has only one shot anyway.

 

[Lord Naruto San]

Naruto and Hashi as far as we know can handle only able to affect Obito

 

[Gerkak]

Ignore them they are just mad because sasuke has been made redundant for the time being.

 

[jorgelius]

well that isnt sage attack only utilizing nature right way, sasuke used cursed seal alot which is imperfect sage mode so its either way threads say or another hard to say...

 

[General PSX360]

Classified as Ninjutsu like Rasengan. Doesn't rely on the users Chakra to deal damage, like how Naruto's Sage Mode Rasengan just owned Obito using Natural energy.

Logic. Use it.

Bout time someone uses Logic in a relevant situation

 

[Gatsuuga]

yes the ability to guide and shape the lightning is ninjutsu, but the lightning itself is just lightning thus it can hurt juubito

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Classified as Ninjutsu like Rasengan. Doesn't rely on the users Chakra to deal damage, like how Naruto's Sage Mode Rasengan just owned Obito using Natural energy.

Logic. Use it.

Nature energy and senjutsu are completely different things. The balancing of spiritual and physical chakra with nature energy gives rise to a new type of chakra - senjutsu chakra. Senjutsu techniques can the be derived from this new type of chakra, just like how naruto used his senjutsu chakra to form the rasengan last chapter.

Nature energy on its own is not senjutsu, it is more similar to nature transformation ninjutsu which doesn't work on obito. It's irrelevant anyway since sasuke doesn't combine nature and spiritual/ physical chakras, he just directs it. Sasuke doesn't create senjutsu chakra nor is Kirin itself derived from sasukes chakra.

 

[RufusSerano]

The black flames of amaterasu are summoned from another dimension, the summoning would be ninjutsu, the flames themselves shouldnt be, they should be comparable with the lightning strike. Yet Juubito can absorb / cancel them. I like the idea that guy could hurt Juubito more than the idea that Kirin could, to be honest. Pure Taijutsu is no ninjutsu after all.

 

[Cosman]

Theoretically speaking, is it possible for Sasuke to augment his Kirin using nature energy if he gets the curse mark?

Because if so, I think that'll be Kishi's course of action. Granted, Kirin is actual lightning being created and not Sausage's own chakra. So I don't really know. Would be badass as hell, though!

 

[Wolfus]

The black flames of amaterasu are summoned from another dimension, the summoning would be ninjutsu, the flames themselves shouldnt be, they should be comparable with the lightning strike. Yet Juubito can absorb / cancel them. I like the idea that guy could hurt Juubito more than the idea that Kirin could, to be honest. Pure Taijutsu is no ninjutsu after all.

Summoned from another dimmensin? Where the hell did you heard this from?

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

It can ninjustu is used to manipulate the very real and existing environment and uses his chakra to guide it
note how it states it "guides" meaning the attack is itself is pure lightning.

 

[TrueRage]

its ok sasuke fans im sure thay will find sumting for him to do soon

 

[SasukeUchiha910]

OP is retarded.....

 

[CJ Mac]

I don't think Kirin could be used against Obito. Yes, it uses "naturally" occurring lightning to enhance the attack, but it is still a ninjutsu. It does not use nature chakra, it uses atmospheric science. And in order to control the attack, the entire technique is infused with his chakra. It can be compared with Gaara's use of sand, or pretty much any water or earth-based techniques.

The bottom line is that there are a lot of people upset over the fact that Sasuke was owned in the last chapter.

Sasuke was probably running through possible strategies while Minato was being depressed, and yet he still did nothing. In the mean time, Naruto was able to enter Sage Mode, make a Rasengan (without a clone), and (with the help of Tobirama) hit Obito from behind with a perfect attack.

This didn't make Sasuke look very good. Even after the attack, he couldn't figure out how it worked. In fact, even after seeing Kabuto's Sage Mode, he still didn't realize that Naruto had used Sage jutsu.

 

[Gatsuuga]

It can ninjustu is used to manipulate the very real and existing environment and uses his chakra to guide it
note how it states it "guides" meaning the attack is itself is pure lightning.

But pure lightning isn't senjutsu. Pure lightning might be pure nature energy but senjutsu is the perfect balance of spiritual, physical chakra and nature energy. Kirin doesn't fit the criteria to be classed as senjutsu, hence why kishi classes it as ninjutsu.

OP is retarded.....

How so everything I said is supported by kishi's databook and canon explanation of senjutsu. If you choose to argue with kishi then that would make you the retarded one.

Instead of pointless name calling how about a counter arguement supported by kishi's works?