If Sage Mode is so effective, how did Obito fodderize Myojinmon?

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It makes no sense to me. A weaker Obito fodderized a sage mode technique that clearly craps on an ordinary Rasengan. Can someone explain please? Does this mean Naruto's Sage Mode>Hashirama's Sage Mode? I still can't believe it.
 

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IDK but he needs to start using his rinnegan.
 

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One phrase= PLOT-NO-JUTSU.
 

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Because Sm naruto >>>>>>>>> Sm hashi

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actuly obito was fodderized by ftg and rasengan!!!
 

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perhaps only sage technique can damage Obito at this point. and Hashi never landed a hit so we don't know if his sage mode is ineffective vs Obito.
 

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it is not that Myojinmon was not effective againts jubii but as eight tails described jubito is conentrating the power of juubi is small area creating a destructive force , same goes for rasengan it is concentrate from of senjutsu as compared to myojinmon [ which is sage techinque acts on large scale ] plus add the other effect from rotation to it , actually rasengan is just pure chakara [ with hight rotation so no hand seals r required ] with destructive capacity so that why it works
 

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Kishi style: Plot beam Jutsu
 

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It didn't work. Juubito>>second stage Juubi right? Well, why would a sage rasangan send Juubito flying but would not send the Juubi flying? Simple, the Juubi is over a Trillion tons. The Juubito weighs no more than 200 lbs. So of course if he is hit directly, he'll be sent flying. But he didnt get hurt at all; Juubito's durability is certainly greater than the Juubi's alone.
 

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Another spin to it nobodys mentioned: maybe sage mode is only effective against obito in his final state, i.e when he has truly become a sage.
 
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LOL i love reading these types of threads to see everyone try to explain an @$$pull

having naruto learn KCM just to go back to SM is like getting a Master's degree just to flip burgers in McDonalds- pointless
 
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its a jutsu that block his movement only.... with enough power(which the juubi are) can shattered those gates.... but certainly senjutsu can hurt obito now....

did anyone wondered why madara distract hashirama? maybe this is the very reason why madara distracted him..
 

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what are you talking about? whats not to understand? he was strong enough to break down a sage mode barrier... no one said he couldnt do that. that jutsu wasnt used to attack it was used to hold down something bigger than obito was when obito absorbed the juubi..... if tobirama didnt teleport naruto behind obito he most likely would have destroyed the rasengan at that point to, but he didnt get a chance to...
 

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The 1st's sage mode probably works completely differently than frog senjutsu, more geared toward physical strength and rapidly healing wounds. Not only that, but Naruto only managed a complete breach of Obito's defenses with the 2nd's help.

Take this into account; if all nature chakra worked the same, wouldn't it mean Tsunade and the 1st would turn into frogs? They clearly don't. It's completely different.
 

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Why would Naruto's Sage mode > Hashirama's Sage mode?
The opposite shouldn't be true as well.

Sage Mode = Sage Mode.
The user makes the difference.

The fact that Obito broke Hashirama's attack doesn't mean anything. He could've used his defense at the last moment.

And you really shouldn't underestimate the Rasengan. It's highly concentrated.


having naruto learn KCM just to go back to SM is like getting a Master's degree just to flip burgers in McDonalds- pointless
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Why would that be?
It's not that KCM Naruto >>> SM Naruto.
SM Naruto IS powerful.
 
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It makes no sense to me. A weaker Obito fodderized a sage mode technique that clearly craps on an ordinary Rasengan. Can someone explain please? Does this mean Naruto's Sage Mode>Hashirama's Sage Mode? I still can't believe it.

Not ordinary Rasengan Sage Rasengan full of Natural Energy.
 

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it is not that Myojinmon was not effective againts jubii but as eight tails described jubito is conentrating the power of juubi is small area creating a destructive force , same goes for rasengan it is concentrate from of senjutsu as compared to myojinmon [ which is sage techinque acts on large scale ] plus add the other effect from rotation to it , actually rasengan is just pure chakara [ with hight rotation so no hand seals r required ] with destructive capacity so that why it works

Yeah no.

It didn't work. Juubito>>second stage Juubi right? Well, why would a sage rasangan send Juubito flying but would not send the Juubi flying? Simple, the Juubi is over a Trillion tons. The Juubito weighs no more than 200 lbs. So of course if he is hit directly, he'll be sent flying. But he didnt get hurt at all; Juubito's durability is certainly greater than the Juubi's alone.

The problem here is that the Myojinmon failed against Juubito, not the Juubi, yet he gets stomped on by a rasengan, which is clearly stronger.

Another spin to it nobodys mentioned: maybe sage mode is only effective against obito in his final state, i.e when he has truly become a sage.

This is the best explanation, but it still makes no sense. Why would a sage be weak to senjutsu? People normally become more resistant when they gain power, not more susceptible, though I'm fully aware this isn't always the case.

LOL i love reading these types of threads to see everyone try to explain an @$$pull

having naruto learn KCM just to go back to SM is like getting a Master's degree just to flip burgers in McDonalds- pointless

This is what I'm starting to agree with. It seems to be nothing more than some kind of plot device, which clearly didn't work before. If this is the case, Hashi should use Shinsuusenju, Tobirama can warp him away from the orbs that protect him, and the pound him into the ground.
 
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