Minato is really really fast (without FTG) .. And FTG is INSTANT

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Dued it isn't shunshin.

Wiki, again explains it rather clearly.

Also you forget one unique detail when you say minato had no seal there.

Minato and Tobirama both tagged each other
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Tobirama was the first to appear behind obito because he has a tag on Obito.
But since Tobirama has now appeared at that destination he also carried the tag that minato used on him, therefore minato also had a tag there via Tobirama

what?.. NO!.. If Minato used Hiraishin, he would have arrived near Tobirama and behind Obito also.. they HAD to swap positions.. So there's no way he was in front of Obito. Sasuke and Naruto were both nowhere near Obito when he jumped in front of their attack
 

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Well he is the fastest shinobi in NV.
 

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what?.. NO!.. If Minato used Hiraishin, he would have arrived near Tobirama and behind Obito also.. they HAD to swap positions.. So there's no way he was in front of Obito. Sasuke and Naruto were both nowhere near Obito when he jumped in front of their attack

You keep claiming shunshin even though every thing hints towards hiraishin.

As for your post. It appears that there is some leg room available to him as he doesn't teleport right next to his seals.
This being an example [ ]

At the same time, he marked obito's back [ ]
Yet appeared at his front [ ].

There is still a mystery with the technique, but it appears it allows a little radius, which can be expanded with the users chakra.

But from where i am sitting and what i have gotten from other's it was hiraishin due to the marking on Tobirama which allowed him to get to that area after tobirama firstly got there via marking obito.

It is up to you what you believe though
 
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Do you hav any proof to say that Minato is using yin half of Kurama?. .no it's just an assumption in NB. .he has half of kurama's chakra thats all. .it's never stated in manga that he has Yin half of kurama's chakra. .

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I think this wil help u

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Oh my bad :sweat: and thanks for correcting me :sweat:

still my point remains the same. .he's using kurama's chakra to increase his base speed. .it's a powerful kyuubi's chakra after all. .
 

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You keep claiming shunshin even though every thing hints towards hiraishin.

As for your post. It appears that there is some leg room available to him as he doesn't teleport right next to his seals.
This being an example [ ]

At the same time, he marked obito's back [ ]
Yet appeared at his front [ ].

There is still a mystery with the technique, but it appears it allows a little radius, which can be expanded with the users chakra.

But from where i am sitting and what i have gotten from other's it was hiraishin due to the marking on Tobirama which allowed him to get to that area after tobirama firstly got there via marking obito.

It is up to you what you believe though

Once again Sasuke and Naruto were both nowhere near where Obito was, so even if Minato teleported to are whereTobirama was, it wouldn't be right in front of Naruto and Sasuke..
 

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maybe because if a clone gets hit by the combined attack, it will ''poof''? and they won't be able to use the technique?

if you see Minato's reply, he said ''with a body like this it won't matter''..

Nah it clearly say's that usng clone wil slowdown the tech...But we can't observe that bcoz that move is still faster
For example if Minato move's with a speed of 2000kmph then we can't differenciate him from some one move's with a speed of 1900 kmph.....Both seems like instant for us but actually there exists a dif b/w them.....

And about that "this body" stuf...

After observng speed of Obito's defence after the attack with Tobirama's clone ,Tobirama nd Minato figured that Obito wil defend himself if the use clone's to attack since it is slower than Obito's defence....

Since they are EDO bodies it wouldn't be a probulem for usng thire own bodies since they can't be distroyed even if Obito managed to attack any of them...,That's the reason behind usng original bodies...........
 

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Oh my bad :sweat: and thanks for correcting me :sweat:

still my point remains the same. .he's using kurama's chakra to increase his base speed. .it's a powerful kyuubi's chakra after all. .
As u already knw that Naruto had Yang part of kyubi and Minato had Yin part of Kyubi....Thire abilities after KCM differs from each other

Naruto: Yang : Physical strength + Life force = Breakng Rocks + Growng Tree's

Minato: Yin : Spritual energy : abilities are unknown

i was just about to post that page, but you were faster.=D

Iam a fan of Minato after all................!
 

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Nah it clearly say's that usng clone wil slowdown the tech...But we can't observe that bcoz that move is still faster
For example if Minato move's with a speed of 2000kmph then we can't differenciate him from some one move's with a speed of 1900 kmph.....Both seems like instant for us but actually there exists a dif b/w them.....

And about that "this body" stuf...

After observng speed of Obito's defence after the attack with Tobirama's clone ,Tobirama nd Minato figured that Obito wil defend himself if the use clone's to attack since it is slower than Obito's defence....

Since they are EDO bodies it wouldn't be a probulem for usng thire own bodies since they can't be distroyed even if Obito managed to attack any of them...,That's the reason behind usng original bodies...........

well it would make sense seeing as clones are only a percentage of ur power.. BUT Tobirama isn't just a percentage of Minato's power..lol

But I still go with my previous statement.. there are different translations, we can never know which one is true
 

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Ok so I was reading the naruto 641, and I noticed something..

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After Minato and Tobirama marked each other, Naruto and Sasuke start running towards Obito (on a second look, they had even started running towards Obito, b4 Minato and Tobirama marked each other). Then we suddenly see Minato right in front of their attack.. At first I thought it was FTG he used, but then I realized Minato had no seal there and he hadn't placed any seal on Naruto or Sasuke, meaning he used mere speed (shunshin) to get to their front .. That's pretty impressive speed if you ask me

Also we see Tobirama got to Obito in an instant even before Minato got to the front of the attack, proving that FTG is actually INSTANT.. And FTG canNOT be slower than FTG..

The mark is on narutos hakke fuin seal. if not how did minato reach naruto so fast from konoha to kumo.
 

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I'd hope he's fast right now... with the Kyubi's cloak and not having to worry about being killed, anyone would be able to charge in at that sort of speed
 

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Well he is one the fastest ninjas that ever lived.
 

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Of course Minato's fast. He has KCM. However, he's still leagues faster than the other hokages in base considering how much time it took for them to catch up to Minato. I'm guessing he has super or hypersonic speed considering he got from the hokage mansion to the battlefield so quickly.

The mark is on narutos hakke fuin seal. if not how did minato reach naruto so fast from konoha to kumo.

Then why did Tobirama say Minato was faster than him? I'd imagine the user of FTG would be able to recognize when someone uses it.
 
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Whether Minato used FTG or Shunshin to appear before Naruto and Sasuke (Even though I'm pretty sure its shunshin (No Seal, Running position of his legs) hardly matters as he has previously shown much better base speed feats. i.e. Catching baby Naruto mid air.

There has been no hint that Minato is using the Kyuubi chakra to amplify any of his abilities. IIRC, Naruto had to do quite a bit of training before he could actually use the KCM cloak abilities like speed and chakra arms properly. The only chakra taxing jutsu he seems to have used in the cloak is 4 Suns Barrier, but he already knew how to use that jutsu so why would he know it if he didn't have enough base chakra to use it? Also, when the shinobi alliance received the kyuubi chakra, it was clearly shown that the same jutsu they had used previously were now much stronger. I think it still has to be revealed why he is using the Kyuubi cloak, and if he does use it, it should be apparent, otherwise it is just a cosmetic effect.
 
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