the difference between Obito and Naruto

[ballerjordan]

It was easier for Obito to control the Juubi since it's not in the final stage, thus has no intelligence.

Naruto struggled his entire life with the Kyuubi, defeated it, and later befriended it.

Let's see Obito try to control the final form Juubi.

 

[Dark Artist]

all Naruto jutsus Coming from the Help of Kyubi Chkra except for Rasengan , clones

Naruto is Counting 100% on the kyubi Power , Kyubi is a living being not a tool he is an animal

Naruto without Kyubi is Fodder , Kyubi Helped him Many times and u know it you narutotards and senju wankers

while Sasuke and Itachi and Madara and even Obito were Counting on their own Chakra

these are the True Talented not a kid with unlimited Chakra

did he beat pain without the Kyubi power ? no
did he beat Sasuke in part 1 without kyubi power ? no and even with kyubi power he got owned
did he Beat Orochimaru with his weak body without kyubi power ? no
did the Complete the SM without the kyubi power and chakra support ? No
do you think he will be in top 10 and even top 20 without the kyubi power ? No

Gaara is a perfect Example he doesn't has his Biju anymore but he is still powerful he doesn't count on that Bijuu

 

[Honord Sage]

Naruto has said Kurama is not His Power, His Power is Himself.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

he did tho kid.

Naruto knows like 10 jutsu tops.

Sasuke has over 20+


You cant be baised and think your right all the time, makes you look stupid.

naruto and sasuke are tied in "effort"

Sasuke has trained and progessed more then naruto, thats manga fact


edit- you still left the manga scan out when sasuke refused itachi's eyes before he was forced into takeing them

I never claimed I was right all the time. However, you're not proving me wrong at all. As for number of jutsu, I don't give a crap.

"Sasuke progressed more than Naruto." Actually, with progression without stuff being put inside of them, they're complete equals. It's SM Naruto VS MS Sasuke. Naruto stated that they'd both die if they fought. This means they're equal. Later, he said he couldn't beat Sasuke, which doesn't contradict his previous statement. If they killed one another, neither would have beat another. When it comes to pure, natural potential matched up with skills, they're equals.


I didn't bother posting the scan since I never denied that he didn't want them at first. You know full well what that scan said. However, I needed to show you those scans to back up my point.

 

[Akemi]

typical sasuke fan picking the easyist option wahhahaha

inside you, you know i'm right. U_U


it wasn't an option to take itachi's eyes...

 

[Awkward Linguist]

all Naruto jutsus Coming from the Help of Kyubi Chkra except for Rasengan , clones

Naruto is Counting 100% on the kyubi Power , Kyubi is a living being not a tool he is an animal

Naruto without Kyubi is Fodder , Kyubi Helped him Many times and u know it you narutotards and senju wankers

while Sasuke and Itachi and Madara and even Obito were Counting on their own Chakra

these are the True Talented not a kid with unlimited Chakra

did he beat pain without the Kyubi power ? no
did he beat Sasuke in part 1 without kyubi power ? no and even with kyubi power he got owned
did he Beat Orochimaru with his weak body without kyubi power ? no
did the Complete the SM without the kyubi power and chakra support ? No
do you think he will be in top 10 and even top 20 without the kyubi power ? No

Gaara is a perfect Example he doesn't has his Biju anymore but he is still powerful he doesn't count on that Bijuu

I'm starting to like this guy...

 

[Sennin of Logic]

all Naruto jutsus Coming from the Help of Kyubi Chkra except for Rasengan , clones

Naruto is Counting 100% on the kyubi Power , Kyubi is a living being not a tool he is an animal

Naruto without Kyubi is Fodder , Kyubi Helped him Many times and u know it you narutotards and senju wankers

while Sasuke and Itachi and Madara and even Obito were Counting on their own Chakra

these are the True Talented not a kid with unlimited Chakra

did he beat pain without the Kyubi power ? no
did he beat Sasuke in part 1 without kyubi power ? no and even with kyubi power he got owned
did he Beat Orochimaru with his weak body without kyubi power ? no
did the Complete the SM without the kyubi power and chakra support ? No
do you think he will be in top 10 and even top 20 without the kyubi power ? No

Gaara is a perfect Example he doesn't has his Biju anymore but he is still powerful he doesn't count on that Bijuu

This post..... None of these points are right. I don't know where to begin to criticize. The only valid points are pain and Orochimaru.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

This post..... None of these points are right. I don't know where to begin to criticize.

Well obviously they don't seem to look right to you as it's criticizing Naruto.

 

[HadouKage]

why is half the base immature and childish?

my argument is invalid?

you were the one crying about how madara let obito become the jin

in a thread about the difference between obito and naruto

once again
GG

You agreed with one person that Obito made the Juubi his b**** when Madara gave him the ability to do so, all you do is speak nonsense and shun posts you don't like (the ones that make sense). Without Madara's help, Obito would have been fodderize by a rock
/thread

 

[Dark Artist]

Well obviously they don't seem to look right to you as it's criticizing Naruto.

+ REP

he knows it's the truth but he is Naruto fanboy i can understand why he disagree lol

 

[Fireplay]

kay then show me proof how naruto put more effort

when his skill list consist of


SM
KCM
BM
TBB
Rasgen varients
Shadow Clone


do tell me more how naruto has put more effort then sasuke has

Let's see.
Sasuke:

- Sasuke got the Curse Mark from Orochimaru (Free power)
- Had his brothers eyes given to him on a silver plate
- He was born a genius and naturally talented while Naruto was born a failure
- Was given a sword by Orochimaru
- Was given a free MS by Itachi, Which is now all he uses

Naruto:

-He was born a failure and had no talent at all
-Learned the rasengan in a week with very little help
-Was hated by everybody and still managed to become the Hero of the village
-Will become Hokage (from scratch)
-Had to work hard to get acknowledged
-Had to turn Kyuubi into a good guy
-Chased Sasuke for years

Sasuke could sit around doing nothing and he'd still get free power. He's pretty much living under the Uchiha's wing.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Let's see.
Sasuke:

- Sasuke got the Curse Mark from Orochimaru (Free power)
- Had his brothers eyes given to him on a silver plate
- He was born a genius and naturally talented while Naruto was born a failure
- Was given a sword by Orochimaru
- Was given a free MS by Itachi, Which is now all he uses

Naruto:

-He was born a failure and had no talent at all
-Learned the rasengan in a week with very little help
-Was hated by everybody and still managed to become the Hero of the village
-Will become Hokage (from scratch)
-Had to work hard to get acknowledged
-Had to turn Kyuubi into a good guy

Full of ownage...

 

[HadouKage]

It was easier for Obito to control the Juubi since it's not in the final stage, thus has no intelligence.

Naruto struggled his entire life with the Kyuubi, defeated it, and later befriended it.

Let's see Obito try to control the final form Juubi.

^This
The Juubi isn't even complete

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Well obviously they don't seem to look right to you as it's criticizing Naruto.

1. Correct

2. Sasuke had curse mark power and Naruto had equal opportunity to do as much damage to Sasuke as Sasuke did to Naruto.

3. Correct.

4. It was never stated that Naruto's SM required Kurama. Kurama had nothing to do with enhancing Naruto. In fact, he wasn't letting the 9 tails out any more. Did you see him have fox eyes while training or red chakra? NO, then Kurama wasn't involved. In fact, he interfered. It clearly doesn't since he had SM when he fought Kurama over his chakra.


5. His clones in SM beat 3rd raikage. He's top 10. Just not as high up.

 

[Kurama2012]

inside you, you know i'm right. U_U


it wasn't an option to take itachi's eyes...

actually there is always an option and the reason he chose that option of taking his brothers eyes was to be able to destroy naruto with all his power not because he was going blind granted that would have impacted his decision as well but it was more to do with naruto
you could say that when sasuke refused the eyes at 1st he was too arrogant to think he could take the leaf without the eyes

 

[Sennin of Logic]

+ REP

he knows it's the truth but he is Naruto fanboy i can understand why he disagree lol

I'm sorry, but which one of us is putting effort and manga scans to back up my statements? What level of delusion does it take to reach your level? It's quite pitiful that all you can do to respond to me is say I'm a fanboy while not engaging me with manga scans. You can only say I'm a fanboy after you beat me in a debate and counter me with actual manga facts supported by statements, which will never happen.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

1. Correct

2. Sasuke had curse mark power and Naruto had equal opportunity to do as much damage to Sasuke as Sasuke did to Naruto.

3. Correct.

4. It was never stated that Naruto's SM required Kurama. Kurama had nothing to do with enhancing Naruto. In fact, he wasn't letting the 9 tails out any more. Did you see him have fox eyes while training or red chakra? NO, then Kurama wasn't involved. In fact, he interfered. It clearly doesn't since he had SM when he fought Kurama over his chakra.


5. His clones in SM beat 3rd raikage. He's top 10. Just not as high up.

Provide manga support.

 

[Dark Artist]

Let's see.
Sasuke:

- Sasuke got the Curse Mark from Orochimaru (Free power)
- Had his brothers eyes given to him on a silver plate
- He was born a genius and naturally talented while Naruto was born a failure
- Was given a sword by Orochimaru
- Was given a free MS by Itachi, Which is now all he uses

Naruto:

-He was born a failure and had no talent at all
-Learned the rasengan in a week with very little help
-Was hated by everybody and still managed to become the Hero of the village
-Will become Hokage (from scratch)
-Had to work hard to get acknowledged
-Had to turn Kyuubi into a good guy

all what you said about Sasuke is a benfit for him Because these only Tools

rarely someone live through Curse mark but Sasuke lived which means he is talented
and Most things you mentioned are gone and Sasuke doesn't have it anymore

if you're trying to compare Sasuke with Naruto's Case do it with Current Sasuke and Current Naruto
Itachi Eyes you can't even Compare it with the strongest Biju and Unlimited Chakra
it's like Having 2 kind of Chakra which give you Very High Stamina

you just avoid what i mentioned Before About Naruto fights in the Manga and how the kyubi was important for the Fight

Naruto Got FREE Summons also From Jiraiya

Bottom line anyone with a brain and logic knows That Kyubi Helped Naruto alot
heck even Haku will kill Naruto if it wasn't for the Kyubi lol

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Provide manga support.

Which part? Raikage or top 10? It'd take me forever to prove why there's not 15 people better than him.

 

[Akemi]

actually there is always an option and the reason he chose that option of taking his brothers eyes was to be able to destroy naruto with all his power not because he was going blind granted that would have impacted his decision as well but it was more to do with naruto
you could say that when sasuke refused the eyes at 1st he was too arrogant to think he could take the leaf without the eyes

BOLD 1:

What was his other options from going blind?

BOLD 2:

Naruto wanted to control the kyubi because he thought sasuke was stronger than him, and when sasuke does the same the thing, you say he's wrong.


BOLD 3:


just your opinion on sasuke



-NOTE: itachi's eyes are sasuke's heritage the same as kyubi from minato.