[FEAR] Madara's Trump Card Revealed ()

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I Would like to give a shout out to for coming up with the original idea and pointing out some key things from which I built this theory.

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This is going to be my analysis of Madara's recent actions and how they hint towards his Trump Card..



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Hashirama can absorb the Juubi's Chakra


This is something that has been hinted towards within the Manga.

Here Madara says he placed the Gedo on a Flower that sprouted from the Mindless Hashirama Clone and used it's Chakra as a catalyst, so the Gedo's Chakra is being used to power the Hashirama.

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Here are some scans of the Gedo resting on the flower connected to the Hashirama Clone:

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Lastly we see Madara himself say that he was able to survive by absorbing Chakra from the Gedo, Chakra which is extracted from the Gedo through mokuton by the hashirama clone and then extracted by Madara.

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What we see here is this:

Hashirama Clone's Mokuton absorbs the Gedo Mazou's Chakra.
Madara absorbs said Chakra from the Hashirama Clone.

With that we can assume that Hashirama can absorb the Juubi's Chakra with his Mokuton.

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What Is He Up To?​

There is an old saying that goes like this "Nothing in this world happens without a reason. That we are all exactly where we are supposed to be", and in the last 10 scans alot of things have been happening and im hard pressed to find a reason:

Obito just steals the show by making himself the Jinchuriki instead of Madara:

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But instead of doing something about it Madara instead does this:

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His entire plan has fallen by the waste side and yet he continues to distract Hashirama? What if [they] are all exactly where [they] are supposed to be? Perhaps this is all a part of his "Trump Card" [ ]


The Guy Who Never Was​

First we must establish something:

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Madara can control Obito! Well not exactly that, granted Obito can put up a fight, but more or less Madara is in control.

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The Black Rods are the Physical Manifestation of Madara's will, Much like Black Zetsu, which is why Madara was able to control Obito, What is why? Because half of Obito is Black Zetsu, the same way half of White Zetsu was Black Zetsu.

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Madara was able to control Obito because Black Zetsu/Physical Manifestation of Madara's will, is currently residing within Obito. So the Obito we see is really Half Obito and Half Black Zetsu. The Senju cells that make up the left half of Obito's Body was really Black Zetsu in Hiding. Which is something Madara had been planning for a long long time:

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But what does this mean?

It means that Obito is not the only Jinchuriki at the moment, since Obito isnt only Half Obito and Half Black Zetsu then that means but Madara in a sense is also already the Jinchuriki as well. Which is why he is not distressed over the fact that Obito made himself the Jinchuriki as oppose to using Rinne Tensie, because he had a contingency plan for all of this.


Now You See Me​

For a long time people have been assuming that Obito is currently fighting with the Juubi for control. But when has a newly formed Jinchuriki ever had to fight for control with a Tailed Beast?

You meant to tell me the Shukaka couldnt overpower a Small Feeble Child?

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Or that Kurama and all his rage couldnt overpower an Uzumaki Child?

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So far what we have seen is that when a Tailed beast is sealed they are just that... Sealed. Even Kurama couldnt even make a move on Naruto up until the Seal had worn down during his fight with Pain which is nearly 17 years after its creation.

No I believe that Obito is fighting with someone else, someone who knows his hopes, dreams, and aspirations. And knows exactly how to break him!

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Ulterior Motives​

So with that let me move on to my final point. Which is the question I started this whole thread out with... Why is Madara focusing on Hashirama?

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Because Hashirama's Mokuton even if it cant defeat Juubito it can weaken his Chakra control, which means 1 of 2 things:

A) Obito cannot restrain the Juubi's Chakra anymore and something will happen similar to what happened to Danzo.

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or

B) The seal will weaken and the Juubi will use that chance to assume control, similar to what Kurama did.

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This is why I believe Madara is purposely trying to keep Hashirama away from the action to prevent him from using Mokuton on Juubito and possibly bringing on one of these 2 events.


Madara's Trump Card?​

Madara's Trump Card is to have Black Zetsu, who currently resides within half of Obito's body thus making it Half a Jinchuriki, take over Juubito!

Bi-Polar Relationship​

Lastly I want to point out the nearly Bi-Polar relationship of someone "Possessed?" by Black Zetsu, notice he will talk about times, and the other person will also talk at times. This is portrayed by which side of the face the qoute bubble appears on. Take this for instance:

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And compare it to what Obito says in relation to which side of the face said qoute bubble is pointing to.

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It isnt until we see this:

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Do we see Obito start talking with both sides of his face as oppose to just one:

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I am not yet sure what this means...


Conclusion​

Black Zetsu/Madara's Will and Obito are fighting for control over the Juubi's Power while the Juubi is locked behind the seal.

If this power struggle draws out too long and neither will have enough chakra to maintain the seal or if the seal itself is weakened by outside forces then the Juubi will be released but this time he will be out of everyone's control.


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I skipped to the Trump Card part to see what you thought it was. Kishi would never reuse the obito take over, just as he would never have everyone brought back to life via rinne tensei again, or how he would never have orochimaru edo tensei itachi again.

You have to look at it from a literary standpoint, as well as a plot standpoint.
 

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I skipped to the Trump Card part to see what you thought it was. Kishi would never reuse the obito take over, just as he would never have everyone brought back to life via rinne tensei again, or how he would never have orochimaru edo tensei itachi again.

You have to look at it from a literary standpoint, as well as a plot standpoint.
I prefer to look at things from a "fact" stand point.
 

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Well, this is certainly insightful, I am not entirely sure yet how the events will play out

We have to keep two things in mind:

1. Kishimoto will not simply kill/dispose Obito's character after undergoing such transformations, Kishimoto had invested a lot of plot in it, so ultimately, if the trump card will be successful, Obito will still need to be kept alive by plot. That is if the trump card succeeds, if not then the trump card simply fails.

2. Plot necessitates the full transformation of the Juubi, either unsealed or sealed inside a Jinchuuriki, so I believe that Obito will probably undergo a final "struggle mode" which will leave him vulnerable giving Madara the opportunity to strike and assume control, if he really could.
 
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I prefer to look at things from a "fact" stand point.
Why do you think it is that Jiraiya's body was too far under water to retrieve? Kabuto, the man who found madara's body, the man who knew more about the narutoverse than us, the readers did, was unable to go too deep under water?

Nope. It was because Kishi knew his death was too powerful, and reviving him would ruin his death. Again. Literary standpoint trumps factual standpoint in a fictional story.
 

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Let us analyze Madara's predicament:

1. He needs to free himself from Edo Tensei

2. He needs to assume control/Jinchuurikiship of the Juubi.

Plot necessitates Madara to be defeated, and I don't see him simply being "sealed away" like the other Edo Zombies were, so ultimately he has to free himself from the Edo Tensei state in order to be defeated conventionally.

Now, it is highly unlikely that Kishimoto would opt for another "Rinne Tensei Rebirth #2" as Madara's Trump Card since it ultimately failed the first time, and like I said, plot necessitates that Obito be kept alive in order not to invalidate the plot investment of his transformation. So how do we resolve this predicament? keep Obito alive and at the same time give Madara the chance to assume control/Jinchuurikiship of the Juubi?

So my best guess is that involves "soul transference" kinda like Oro's Fushi Tensei, when the moment is right, he will transfer his "soul" inside Obito via Black Zetsu, and will try to assume control of the Juubi's host. That way the "Edo Tensei" problem of defeating Edo Madara is resolve, as it is he himself who freed him from that state.

Now, whether he succeeds or not is still unclear, but if he indeed fails, Madara will meet poetic justice, that instead of assuming control, he, like Orochimaru, is subjugated or consumed inside the body of the host he tried to overtake.
 
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Very well thought out thread, with good evidence portrayal as well. But I doubt his trump card will work in the end. From a literary stand point, Madara isn't needed at this point. It will ultimately fail in the face of the Final Antagonist; OBITO.
 

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Very well thought out thread, with good evidence portrayal as well. But I doubt his trump card will work in the end. From a literary stand point, Madara isn't needed at this point. It will ultimately fail in the face of the Final Antagonist; OBITO.
I agree, I don't see Madara as simply "yanking" the Jūbi from Obito, I think it will ultimately fail.

And if it fails according to my hypothesis, then "Irony" is introduced, Madara, who is in a state of great power, leaves that state (Edo Tensei) to try and take control of a Greater Power, only for him to be consumed and defeated by that Greater Power he tried to control.
 

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Very original thought, and after reading the whole thing, it seems plausible that Obito could be struggling with Madara's will, it's never explained what happens to it after Obito becomes a jin after all
 

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If we agree that his trump card will probably fail and he is removed from the plot, then there is still the matter concerning Obito himself, how long can he truly control the Jūbi? Because like I said plot necessitates it to reach its full transformation, outside or inside a Jin, if my hypothesis is correct that the Jūbi is sentient (Sojobo) then ultimately it will overtake the host. The relation of a hostile Bijū and its Jin is a struggle for domination, not a symbiotic relationship of a Perfect Jinchūriki like Naruto/Kurama, Killer B/Gyūki
 
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If we agree that his trump card will probably fail and he is removed from the plot, then there is still the matter concerning Obito himself, how long can he truly control the Jūbi? Because like I said plot necessitates it to reach its full transformation, outside or inside a Jin, if my hypothesis is correct that the Jūbi is sentient (Sojobo) then ultimately it will overtake the host.
Anyone else thinking either

Sage a vs. Sage b fight
or
Sage vs. Juubi round 2?
 

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Either of the two is good, anything without Madara as FV
It's still unclear. Kishi stated in an interview that Madara would NOT be the final villain. HOWEVER, that was when Tobi was thought to be Madara.

So either,
A: Kishi meant that Tobi (madara) would not be the final villain, opening the door for real madara to be,
B: Kishi actually meant Madara would not be the final villain, meaning Tobi would be (interesting choice of words, kishi. Shrewd)
or C: Neither "madara" would be the final villain, meaning anyone could be.
 

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It's still unclear. Kishi stated in an interview that Madara would NOT be the final villain. HOWEVER, that was when Tobi was thought to be Madara.

So either,
A: Kishi meant that Tobi (madara) would not be the final villain, opening the door for real madara to be,
B: Kishi actually meant Madara would not be the final villain, meaning Tobi would be (interesting choice of words, kishi. Shrewd)
or C: Neither "madara" would be the final villain, meaning anyone could be.

There's this purported interview that is regularly mentioned in NF of Kishi that said Naruto vs Sasuke will be the final fight of the series, is this true??
 

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Why do you think it is that Jiraiya's body was too far under water to retrieve? Kabuto, the man who found madara's body, the man who knew more about the narutoverse than us, the readers did, was unable to go too deep under water?

Nope. It was because Kishi knew his death was too powerful, and reviving him would ruin his death. Again. Literary standpoint trumps factual standpoint in a fictional story.
dude , please , don't try to argue with factional stuff , this is a fact what this guy said.
 
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The only way I could see Naruto vs Sasuke as the "final battle" of the series if it's done after the Juubi is defeated/taken care of, a personal epilogue fight between the two
Indeed. Which is why i'm concerned. I don't want it to be a "friendly" battle for hokage-ship or something. I was looking forward to the no-holds-barred death match that was to befall them. With the outcome deciding the fate of Konoha. Destruction, or Salvation.
 

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Indeed. Which is why i'm concerned. I don't want it to be a "friendly" battle for hokage-ship or something. I was looking forward to the no-holds-barred death match that was to befall them. With the outcome deciding the fate of Konoha. Destruction, or Salvation.
It still will. Sasuke wants to kill the Bijuu's and Naruto is their Harbinger.
 
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