Minato's Shunshin > Tobirama's, not FTG

[Penguin]

Also Minato's FTG has more variations and isn't so limited by seals like tobirama.

Minato is more upgraded version of tobirama.

False. Tobirama does not need seals either. He was going to teleport to the battlefield where there were no seals, but Orochimaru did not let him.

Just because Minato has a variety of FTG does not make him a better Tobirama. Tobirama has Edo Tensei and Suiton. Tobirama is an upgraded Minato.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Of course Rin was an expert on FTG I forgot...not. She has no feats to show she could keep up with Minato's base speed. His base speed is like teleporting to her. She would not know the difference.

So..... How did Obito predict Minato so well?

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This can only mean Minato did share the basics of his jutsu to his students.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

No seal on battlefield; if he did have one, he would have taken the other Hokage with him.

Use logic.

So..... They traveled through a country at hypersonic speed? How can you tell that there were no seals on the battlefield?

 

[Touken]

False. Tobirama does not need seals either. He was going to teleport to the battlefield where there were no seals, but Orochimaru did not let him.

That's actually an interesting point... how was he gonna teleport to the battlefield without markings?

So..... They traveled through a country at hypersonic speed?

That's silly, no one mentioned how long it took for them to get to the battlefield.

FTG is out of the question.

 

[Westside]

False. Tobirama does not need seals either. He was going to teleport to the battlefield where there were no seals, but Orochimaru did not let him.

Just because Minato has a variety of FTG does not make him a better Tobirama. Tobirama has Edo Tensei and Suiton. Tobirama is an upgraded Minato.

Calling someone ''Retard'' for having a different opinion is just stupid and childish.
Not gonna even argue with fanboy like you

 

[Sennin of Logic]

False. Tobirama does not need seals either. He was going to teleport to the battlefield where there were no seals, but Orochimaru did not let him.

Just because Minato has a variety of FTG does not make him a better Tobirama. Tobirama has Edo Tensei and Suiton. Tobirama is an upgraded Minato.

So, why is it Minato is the best known user for FTG and not Tobirama? Simply put, Minato's better at it.

Edit: The definition of upgrade is to improve upon. Tobirama came first, so your statement is impossible. Considering Minato has FTG level 2, I'm guessing Minato is the upgraded one.

 

[Westside]

So, why is it Minato is the best known user for FTG and not Tobirama? Simply put, Minato's better at it.

Don't argue with fanboy.
But agreed.

 

[Penguin]

Don't argue with fanboy.
But agreed.

Don't get mad now.

So, why is it Minato is the best known user for FTG and not Tobirama? Simply put, Minato's better at it.

Edit: The definition of upgrade is to improve upon. Tobirama came first, so your statement is impossible. Considering Minato has FTG level 2, I'm guessing Minato is the upgraded one.

Because Minato's fighting style is based around FTG while Tobirama used Edo Tensei and Suiton. Minato has a more diverse FTG moveset. Instant = Instant.

So..... How did Obito predict Minato so well?

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This can only mean Minato did share the basics of his jutsu to his students.

What are you saying?

Calling someone ''Retard'' for having a different opinion is just stupid and childish.
Not gonna even argue with fanboy like you

I would have hated to own you. <3

 

[DragonGodOfFire]

I agree that minato's FTG is not superior in speed. But it is superior in versatility and has an extra use which is space/time barrier. Until we see more from tobirama minato has a superior use of FTG

^^ This, plus i'm pretty sure Tobirama can mark kunais too, remember how everyone thought minato invented the FTG mark seal, but he really copied it from tobirama whose to say the marked kunai trick wasn't tobirama's to begin with.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Don't get mad now.



Because Minato's fighting style is based around FTG while Tobirama used Edo Tensei and Suiton. Minato has a more diverse FTG moveset. Instant = Instant.



What are you saying?



I would have hated to own you. <3

So someone who centers his fighting style around a jutsu isn't better than someone who prefers other jutsus? Makes sense.

 

[Touken]

As stated before, no one knew what Hashirama was capable of, people assumed his power was that of a 'fairy tale'. No one knew what Madara was capable of either, no one had heard of his Perfect Susanoo. The same thing goes for Tobirama, no one knew what shinobi were capable of 100 years back. Hell, most don't even know the history of Konoha and how the world was like before villages were found.

Minato's much, much more recent so people know what he was capable of.

Edit: Also, people even thought Minato had invented FTG; this just proves how no one knew what the previous gen were capable of.

Shikaku didn't know about Muu's Jinton and thought Onoki was the only one who had access to a Kekkei Tota.

 

[Westside]

Don't get mad now.



Because Minato's fighting style is based around FTG while Tobirama used Edo Tensei and Suiton. Minato has a more diverse FTG moveset. Instant = Instant.



What are you saying?



I would have hated to own you. <3

Well you can't win against fanboy.

 

[Penguin]

So someone who centers his fighting style around a jutsu isn't better than someone who prefers other jutsus? Makes sense.

Did I say Minato's was worse? I did not. I said Instant = Instant. I also said Minato's style is more diverse. Learn to read or go to kindergarten.

Well you can't win against fanboy.

Your wrong so you resort to calling me a fanboy. Trash.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

As stated before, no one knew what Hashirama was capable of, people assumed his power was that of a 'fairy tale'. No one knew what Madara was capable of either, no one had heard of his Perfect Susanoo. The same thing goes for Tobirama, no one knew what shinobi were capable of 100 years back. Hell, most don't even know the history of Konoha and how the world was like before villages were found.

Minato's much, much more recent so people know what he was capable of.

Edit: Also, people even thought Minato had invented FTG; this just proves how no one knew what the previous gen were capable of.

Shikaku didn't know about Muu's Jinton and thought Onoki was the only one who had access to a Kekkei Tota.

The difference is that Hashirama was that it was common knowledge that wood style was fearsome and his reputation for its power was well known and envied.

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Hashirama had a very clear reputation even though his abilities were shrouded in rumor.

Tobirama however had no reputation for his speed or FTG. It's Minato who held the reputation. There's no reason why Hashirama held a solid reputation as the strongest ninja while Tobirama didn't hold the reputation of the fastest ninja unless someone surpassed him in speed and teleporting, namely, Minato. Another thing to consider is that Minato held the reputation despite the fact that Hiruzen(Tobirama's student), didn't correct Minato's reputation as the fastest despite the fact that he knew Tobirama and Hashirama's abilities well.

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This all points to the fact that Minato was better than Tobirama in FTG to the extent that he was considered faster.

 

[Westside]

Did I say Minato's was worse? I did not. I said Instant = Instant. I also said Minato's style is more diverse. Learn to read or go to kindergarten.



Your wrong so you resort to calling me a fanboy. Trash.

Nope.
I just know that your gonna be stubborn and waste of my precious time. :bye:

 

[Multiply]

The difference is that Hashirama was that it was common knowledge that wood style was fearsome and his reputation for its power was well known and envied.

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Hashirama had a very clear reputation even though his abilities were shrouded in rumor.

Tobirama however had no reputation for his speed or FTG. It's Minato who held the reputation. There's no reason why Hashirama held a solid reputation as the strongest ninja while Tobirama didn't hold the reputation of the fastest ninja unless someone surpassed him in speed and teleporting, namely, Minato. Another thing to consider is that Minato held the reputation despite the fact that Hiruzen(Tobirama's student), didn't correct Minato's reputation as the fastest despite the fact that he knew Tobirama and Hashirama's abilities well.

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This all points to the fact that Minato was better than Tobirama in FTG to the extent that he was considered faster.

How can instant be considered faster than instant?

 

[Touken]

The difference is that Hashirama was that it was common knowledge that wood style was fearsome and his reputation for its power was well known and envied.

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Hashirama had a very clear reputation even though his abilities were shrouded in rumor.

Tobirama however had no reputation for his speed or FTG. It's Minato who held the reputation. There's no reason why Hashirama held a solid reputation as the strongest ninja while Tobirama didn't hold the reputation of the fastest ninja unless someone surpassed him in speed and teleporting, namely, Minato. Another thing to consider is that Minato held the reputation despite the fact that Hiruzen(Tobirama's student), didn't correct Minato's reputation as the fastest despite the fact that he knew Tobirama and Hashirama's abilities well.

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This all points to the fact that Minato was better than Tobirama in FTG to the extent that he was considered faster.

Dude, the scan shows two people who are current gen and are aware of Hashirama's abilities and these two people are probably the most knowledgeable peeps in NV. They studied jutsu and history for so long, it'd be surprising they didn't know what Hashirama was capable of.

I didn't say Minato wasn't the fastest but he only kept that title due to his speed, not FTG.

Hashirama didn't have a clear reputation at all; the latest chapter shows one shinobi saying 'So this is how our predecessors used to fight..!'

 

[FleeOnSight]

If anyone thinks tobirama is faster than minato in anyway you're a complete slapdick. He was faster in base mode by a long shot. With kcm he would completely piss on him. And lets not even talk about ftg.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Dude, the scan shows two people who are current gen and are aware of Hashirama's abilities and these two people are probably the most knowledgeable peeps in NV. They studied jutsu and history for so long, it'd be surprising they didn't know what Hashirama was capable of.

I didn't say Minato wasn't the fastest but he only kept that title due to his speed, not FTG.

Hashirama didn't have a clear reputation at all; the latest chapter shows one shinobi saying 'So this is how our predecessors used to fight..!'

Are you ignoring the guy who said "we're doomed" when he saw wood style? Or that Kabuto said "There's no ninjas like Hashirama anymore, all the people agree about that." This means that Many people know of Hashirama's reputation as a ninja enough to judge the current generation, not just Orochimaru and Kabuto.


I dunno about that. Maybe Minato's prep time is considerably less.

 

[Ababeel]

Minato is better than Tobirama, in Shunshin, FTG and reflex. But, I wanna hear your opinion in this!

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why did Tobirama say Shunshin? Does he not know the different between them?