Minato is a superior version of Tobirama

[Calpal]

minato and the ninetails are the ooooonly characters to receive hype since chapter f*cking one. ofc hes gonna be a super savage

 

[Meee]

Same as Itachi with genjutsu, MS, susanoo, and amaterasu. GG.

They weren't stolen, he had no choice in the techniques he gained and he was the first to rock Amaterasu

Minato STOLE Tobirama's tech and gained reputation as the Yellow Flash from it XD

 

[Tobby17]

Tobirama needed to touch Obito by teleporting behind him despite the fact he already marked him, which leads me to believe he can't summon people connected to his chakra like Minato can. Concerning his sensing feats, besides the fact they have similar sensing feats you also forget the fact he sensed the guy above Jubi was the masked guy without even knowing who he was really(he noticed it was Obito after he looked at his face)

lol.. what?.. Minato can't do that either?.. When he tagged Obito, he was only able to teleport to Obito, not warp Obito to himself.

 

[nandachikara]

wow are we ever gonna stop comparing this two ninja's,nobody can really tell with cogent fact who is better of the duo,making a thread about it will only cause character bashing you know.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Point no 4 is invalid.

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U_U

As you may well be aware by now, im a minato fan myself but facts are facts.

 

[LUMOS ULTIMATUM]

That's it. Moderators should create a topic called Tobirama so that tobirama fanboys/wankers can fantasize as much as they want.:devil::devil::devil:

 

[Daakioso]

Tobirama is one of my favorite characters alongside Minato, cause they look so much alike and i do believe that Kishi planned Minato as an upgraded hokage of the 2nd. If you think logically, Tobirama already stated "The fourth is copying me", but since the fourth came after him, he was able to improve all the techniques he copied + develop his own.. Meaning he is just an upgraded copy of that character, for the rest they're the same even their looks almost.. The only thing i think Tobirama still has superior is the chakra and all that senju crap his brother might have too. But technique wise.. < Minato. Plus Minato's elemental keeps getting built up by Kishi, i think it's gonna be one hell of an epic moment when he uses it.

 

[Mellanoma]

Haha Makes a post stating Tobirama is hype yet half the post is based on Abilities minato might have...

Minato has no jutsu that deals damage other than kunai and rasengan...

Tobirama has

Suiton
Edo Tensei
Edo Tensei Explosion
FTG Slash
Superior Sensing abilities
More Battle Experience

Try again please

Last manga shows that Tobirama is the more experienced one with FTG considering he explained to Minato why clones wouldn't work and that they needed to use each other.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

They weren't stolen, he had no choice in the techniques he gained and he was the first to rock Amaterasu

Minato STOLE Tobirama's tech and gained reputation as the Yellow Flash from it XD

T/S B > FTG, well it is FTG but its his so he has his rep with T/S.

DF!? He stole shadow clone jutsu then. He stole FBJ. He stole Izagani.

Stealing scripts about jutsu's like Naruto did to learn shadow clone jutsu.

 

[Avinash012]

Don't give Minato something he does not have (element) when comparing these two great people.

I don't think Minato can dodge Hiraishingiri to be honest.

Tobirama: 4th ur shunshin is better than Mine ........

Minato can dodge any attack atleast with minimam damage regardless of speed of enmy...........

Do u knw the main reason behind the creation of Rasengan.......?

Minato created Rasengan to combine it with his Affinity....and he died B4 accomplshng that......!

According to Kakashi almost every jounin class shinobi can use more than one element which means that Minato can atleast 1 element ,probably more than 1...............

 

[Avinash012]

Haha Makes a post stating Tobirama is hype yet half the post is based on Abilities minato might have...

Minato has no jutsu that deals damage other than kunai and rasengan...

Tobirama has

Suiton
Edo Tensei
Edo Tensei Explosion
FTG Slash
Superior Sensing abilities
More Battle Experience

Try again please

Last manga shows that Tobirama is the more experienced one with FTG considering he explained to Minato why clones wouldn't work and that they needed to use each other.

Do u think more no of tech's can easily make u winner .......?

If so Orochimaru would have stomped Itachi and peobably he would have killed Itachi.......

and
Kakashi can solo entire NV with his 1000 jutsu.........!

Tobirama's water attack's can't hit Minato ...his shunshin > Tobirama's waterstyle attacks.........

Minato had FTG markngs all over the village he can escape high level water style jutsu's and Tobirama's EDO blast without any damage.......

EDO is useless against Minato's sealng jutsu....

Minato's FTG is advanced compared to Tobirama and he had FTG V2 atleast his mastery over FTG is superiour......

Sensng can't help him against Minato......

Every offencive attack's of Tobirama exept FTG slash (Minato can easily counter) takes time but Makng Rasengan is as easy as teleportng for Minato..........

 

[elsepa]

Shunshin = body flicker technique

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Kanji 瞬身の術
Rōmaji Shunshin no Jutsu
Literal English Body Flicker Technique
English TV Teleportation Jutsu

 

[DragonGodOfFire]

ummmmm no, equal in FTG, for all we know Minato could have copied the marked kunai from Tobirama, we all thought the mark seal was his didn't we, but it turned out that he copied it from Lord Tobirama. Minato has better shunshin thats it, you can argue that kushina taught him more and better seals than what tobirama knows but that is false until proven in the manga. I agree that tobirama needs suiton feats, didn't minato also copy tobiramas senory ability?

 

[Avinash012]

They weren't stolen, he had no choice in the techniques he gained and he was the first to rock Amaterasu

Minato STOLE Tobirama's tech and gained reputation as the Yellow Flash from it XD

So what he didn't get FTG on a whim without any effort like Uchiha's ...

He created his own teq by usng same prncpl as Tobirama and he surpassed him ...he mastered it on through hardwork and Talent ...it require skill and inteligence to be able to do smthng like that....

Is there anyone in entire NV that can actually use FTG as efficently as Minato......?

Look at Minato ...he is the creator of Rasengan and he is able to took it to it's highest possible range through pure shape manipulation which means that no one can improve it beyond that ......

His mastery over Rasengan is still unparalled ,no one can use Rasengan as efficently as Minato .........

His shunshin is Unparalled

Each and every jutsu and his mastery over those jutsu is still unparalled........!

Itachi is surpassed by Sasuke in every field...exept Inteligence & experience..!
it is like a person from a poor family becmng PM of a country...

 

[Avinash012]

Shunshin = body flicker technique

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Kanji 瞬身の術
Rōmaji Shunshin no Jutsu
Literal English Body Flicker Technique
English TV Teleportation Jutsu

Isn't it Obvious.....?

Most of NB members should have already knw this......!

 

[Avinash012]

I don't like the fact that Minato learned jutsus that aren't his own.
Tobirama have S/T, Edo Tensei, Water jutsu and such. U_U

Atleast Better than Sasuke ,Sasuke learned and copied Chidori from Kakashi ..

Minato figured mechanics behind FTG on his own and developed his own jutsu by usng the same principal as Tobirama............

 

[Bogard]

You made edo tensei seem like a fodder jutsu, edo tensei bombs >>>>> rasengan & summonings. They have similar reflexes & speed (we havent seen tobirama's full reflexes but the fact that minato complimented him on it must mean that kishi is implying something). Minato has faster shunshin yes but tell me how that helps him get close to tobirama when he can teleport too?

Minato has kunai? well you just downplayed another one of tobirama's feats which is suiton, his suiton will be enough to wash away any surrounding kunai if his edo bombs dont do it first.

All in all, minato only has rasengan, a frog, & kunai to kill with, & no notable sealing feats which make him the winner. tobirama has bombs, water, & a sowrd if you want to count it. Tobirama's arsenal is more deadly on a practical scale while minato has to be more precise when planning out his attacks.

Tobirama has the power & experience advantage, their reflexes are basically equal, & minato has faster shunshin.

Imo it can easily go either way, tobirama=minato without fanboying U_U.

Lol everyone has explosive tags in his arsenal even genins. You talk about it as if, it was something outstanding in Tobirama's arsenal. It's even arguable that his explosive tag feats come from his Edo tensei body since they were similar by the look of it. I didn't forget Edo tensei, i simply stated facts concerning the technique(OP). Concerning suiton, i wonder where would be the use. Not only it could not cover the entire battlefield, but it doesn't stop Minato from using the kunais for teleporting at all

 

[Avinash012]

You made edo tensei seem like a fodder jutsu, edo tensei bombs >>>>> rasengan & summonings. They have similar reflexes & speed (we havent seen tobirama's full reflexes but the fact that minato complimented him on it must mean that kishi is implying something). Minato has faster shunshin yes but tell me how that helps him get close to tobirama when he can teleport too?

Minato has kunai? well you just downplayed another one of tobirama's feats which is suiton, his suiton will be enough to wash away any surrounding kunai if his edo bombs dont do it first.

All in all, minato only has rasengan, a frog, & kunai to kill with, & no notable sealing feats which make him the winner. tobirama has bombs, water, & a sowrd if you want to count it. Tobirama's arsenal is more deadly on a practical scale while minato has to be more precise when planning out his attacks.

Tobirama has the power & experience advantage, their reflexes are basically equal, & minato has faster shunshin.

Imo it can easily go either way, tobirama=minato without fanboying U_U.

Dude ur argument does make's sence and ur being logical and I agree with most of them....

EDO tensei isn't a fodder justu but it isn't as perfect as Oro's ..isn't it....?

Tobirama's EDO's aren't as strong as thire original self and he originally developed this jutsu to use that bomb attack so u can say that EDO and EDO bomb are same which can be easilty countered by a S/T user....!

Yes Tobi's WS make Minato's kunai useless......!
but he can still use it for as an advantage ....Minato can teleport to his kunai regardless of distence b/w him and Kunai to defend himself in case of attack's like EDO Bombs and large scale Water style jutsu ......

And Minato can counter Tobi's long range WS jutsu with his Shunshin.......!

Jutsu like Kisame's water ball is useless against s/t user and it.........

Fight b/w Minato and Tobirama is nothing but a speed vs speed and it mainly depends on thire reflexes and the speed of thire close range jutsu.....!
As we have seen in manga Minato had shown better reflexes than Tobirama and makng a Rasengan is as easy as Teleporting for Minato....
and his mastery over FTG is better than Tobirama and he had FTG v2 which is a huge advantage for Minato.......

We dnt knw how exactly FTG slash and Minato's long named jutsu so let us forget abt that and Minato takes this high dif......

 

[Penguin]

Lol everyone has explosive tags in his arsenal even genins. You talk about it as if, it was something outstanding in Tobirama's arsenal. It's even arguable that his explosive tag feats come from his Edo tensei body since they were similar by the look of it. I didn't forget Edo tensei, i simply stated facts concerning the technique(OP). Concerning suiton, i wonder where would be the use. Not only it could not cover the entire battlefield, but it doesn't stop Minato from using the kunais for teleporting at all

He can use the paper bomb technique with any Edo body, not just himself. If he used Edo Tensei and summoned two fodders, he could make them explode infinitely with the paper bomb jutsu.

 

[Avinash012]

well said, but Minato having Kunais all over the place wouldn't work against Tobirama, seeing as Tobirama can simply use Suiton to watch away the Kunais. Which IMO will also make Minato also limited just like Tobirama is

except you are of the opinion he cannot use Suiton?

Yes it is logical but Minato can still teleport to those kunai regardless of distence b/w him and his kunai for defendng him self especially in case of Tobirama's EDO Blast .......