Deidara Vs Konan

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Deidara shits easily

If i'm right, Deidara's symbolism is Rock and Konan's symbolism is Paper. Paper > Rock(you should've learnt this at elementary school). U_U

hmm ... Okay Im not taking OPs side ... its really not a good match up *_*

Sasuke had hard time dodging that but what bothered him were land mines... paper ocean needs prep time so it does not count .who put Land Mines in the first place ... It was Tobi who made the prep for Deidara ... so from where land mine thing came in to picture here *_*

If you analyze Deidara's fighting style, he moves from C1 to eventually C4 and only in extreme cases C0. Konan will be able to deal with C1 with ease if she makes bunshin, which she can. Unlike Sasuke, she can also disperse into different forms thanks to her Paper fighting style. This is known as 'Dance of the Shikigami' and also gives her an advantage here. Deidara will not know where she is since the numerous paper could just instantly form into a bunshin. :yeah:

Konan can fly quite fast, on land she is quite skilled thanks her 'Dance of the Shikigami' in which she can transform almost anything out of paper, ranging from weapons like shuriken for attack, insects/birds or even wings for transport as well as other things. She can also envelope her enemies in paper sheets and suffocate them or blow them up by adding explosive tags/paper bombs.

Konan can avoid, counter and hit C1 with her paper. Bunshins are useful here since they can just disperse into many paper sheets. Some paper sheets can also be shaped into small arrows and sharp objects in order to let off the explosion away from Konan. Paper bombs can also be used if the paper is doesn't cause the clay bombs to explode. We also have to remember that Deidara's clay is not 100% solid, it is soft considering it's clay. O_O Therefore, it can be still be ripped and cut into pieces. Konan can easily do this with her paper shuriken and paper bombs. Konan can also fly away quite fast by creating wings or divert the target of the guided missiles by dispersing into many paper sheets. These would be useful against C2. I admit that even though it would be difficult, Konan would barely manage to escape from C3 due to the it's large range. The only jutsu that would be most troublesome here would be Deidara's C4.

I'm telling you, Konan would push herself to letting Deidara use the C4. Although she would have a high probability of losing here since she has no Raiton which is Deidara's weakness, her Paper Ocean jutsu would be the only option. Well, realistically it could always be a smaller version of the Paper Ocean jutsu as it requires less prep time. She could begin setting it up from the start. The one fighting Deidara could always be a bunshin. Unless, she attempts to be suicidal(which she could) and bring herself towards Deidara and tranform into paper bombs while sticking onto him. That way they would both die. To conclude, we could say it could either way but do not underestimate Konan. :scorps:

 

[Prestonyoko]

Known without a doubt wins this.

 

[Zexion~]

Known without a doubt wins this.

You again U_U Please tell me how didn't you say you wanted to debate ?

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Known without a doubt wins this.

Who the hell is Known? I think you meant to say Konan lol *_*

Look at all these sexist people; sexist people gone wild!

Lol Hehe it's funny how most comments here are in favour for Deidara, yet Konan has the most votes. XD

 

[Shura]

Lmfao. Deidara won't even need C3 or C4 for this. Konan ain't dodging Deidara's C2 bombs.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Lmfao. Deidara won't even need C3 or C4 for this. Konan ain't dodging Deidara's C2 bombs.

She dodges them with ease. Deidara aint gonna touch her if she transforms into hundreds of paper sheets. XD

 

[TheEvilOne]

Wait, Konan has more votes?

 

[TheEvilOne]

Probably OP's alts.

I doubt he has alts.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Why is that

Because only Fire Lord Azula has more then 10 alts on this forum :heh:

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

His bombs will obliterate the sheets, ,she will die nonetheless. OP you're a a stubborn fool, I understand why no one's even bothering anymore.

What? U_U Your telling me she can't make bunshin? Deidara get's trolled hard when he finds out he's wasted his explosive clay and blown up a paper bunshin. Stop being sexist and analyze the fight carefully. No one is bothering because either, the fight itself is difficult to decide who wins OR simply because the thread itself is not very new. :yeah:

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Probably OP's alts.

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How do we know your not an alt?? I ask because you seem to know alot about how the forum discussions work(i.e. terms used and such). In reality, this fight can go either way. If Deidara uses C4, he wins. If Konan uses Paper Ocean jutsu, she wins. :scorps:

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Sexist? Do you even know what sexist mean you idiot? lololol, someone's getting a dictionary for Christmas
Konan can't use ocean jutsu on a golf field you troll.
Deidara destroys her.

You a troll or what!? Sexist: "discriminatory on the basis of *** (usually said of men's attitude toward women)." - here's the link

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In other words, you are hating on Konan because you consider her weak and inferior. She can use her Paper Ocean jutsu anywhere, although she may have smaller versions that would take less preparation of course but that's not a problem. Konan can also engluf Deidara with her paper bombs that stick onto the enemy just like in the fight between her and Obito. Yah, it's a sticky situation for Deidara. Lol What happens? He get's blown to bits and the funny thing is that it's what he always wanted. =D To become "art" itself. XD

 

[KidGamer65]

Wow are you a troll or are you just that fu cking stupid? According to you, anyone who disagree with your opinion is a sexist? Go learn the definition of sexist kiddo.
"Ocean" jutsu speaks for itself, it can only be used in an ocean otherwise it wouldn't be called Paper ocean. She can't avoid a C3 in her face, Deidara wins low diff.

Don't even bother with this extremely idiotic troll.

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

Wow are you a troll or are you just that fu cking stupid? According to you, anyone who disagree with your opinion is a sexist?

Your just repeating the same words as me. U_U Not anyone that disagrees with me, just trolls like you. :devil:

Go learn the definition of sexist kiddo.

Seriously? I'm the one that just showed the definition of sexist. :erm: :|

"Ocean" jutsu speaks for itself, it can only be used in an ocean otherwise it wouldn't be called Paper ocean. She can't avoid a C3 in her face, Deidara wins low diff.

In that case, the polls also speak for themselves. There was really no need for us to argue in the first place. Lol By the way, I don't know why you've taken half of the technique's meaning literally. smh It is called "Paper Ocean" because it refers to the multitudinous number of paper bombs that are affixed within a stable area. If it was referring to the actual area, the technique name could've always been changed to "Paper Sea" or "Papers around Ocean jutsu" as a kanji-type translation. Also, Deidara takes time to prepare for C3. While he moulds his clay and talks about how amazing his art is, Konan instantly transforms into paper planes from paper sheets and flies away from Deidara with great speed.

 

[deidara senpai]

Did you even read? Konan can create almost anything just like Deidara and use paper bombs. With this being said, she is practically like Deidara. :yeah: Think again bro... XD

Let's just assume the technique is already prepared.



The fact she can make almost anything out of paper thanks to Shikigami dance suggests that she make almost anything, including bunshin made out of either plain paper or paper bombs. :scorps:



She can instantly transform into birds while Deidara has the C3 statue in his hand. Konan is not stupid. You think she's gonna be standing like an idol while Deidara prepares the C3.



Of course, but he is not exactly as intelligent than ninja who are S-rank. There is a reason for why they're only a rare number of ninja ranked S-rank, genius. :vincent:



No, you are clearly being sexist. Just because you think it's a girl, you think she's weak. You happy now? Zzz



By saying C1 > Konan is obvious that you're underestimating Konan. She is not stupid and can create several paper bunshin as distractions and countering with decoys. You need to think more objectively. :scorps:



Sasuke was alone and couldn't do anything except raise his wings with the curse mark. However, Konan will be able to disperse herself into many papers.

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Ain't no Deidara is touching her. He can't even see where she is. All of these papers could form into bunshin.



C3 requires time to prep, even though it is less than C4. Konan has escaped while Deidara still has the C3 statue in his hand and keeps boasting about his "art". Lol



Again similar to C3, only this requires more prep time. Gives Konan plenty of time to escape.



That's what i'm saying. C4 is not a technique which doesn't have a counter. How do you think Sasuke managed?



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You guys seriously have something against Konan... U_U

Wtf. I'm trying to make this fight as fair as possible. But you keep coming out with biased bullshit. Saying Konan can't use Paper Ocean technique is same as saying Deidara can't use C4 and C0 because they also require prep time. You've made yourself into quite the fool. U_U

I've just given you manga proof which is the most authentic piece of evidence one can find for Naruto but your choosing to ignore and deny thus giving the impresion that you're a troll. You are thinking small-minded. You need to think more rationally and realistically about this. The truth is that both characters can create anything out their trademark materials. Deidara can create almost anything with his explosive clay while Konan can do the same with her paper knowing that she is talented in origami. :yeah:

C3 is useless. If Deidara uses this in this fight, both characters will be on water but the victory will be in Konan's favour because, firstly her paper is "water-proof" and secondly, she can use the Paper Ocean jutsu. Again, Deidara is screwed if he uses this. If you're confused, check the location of the fight on this thread. It is NOT Sunagakure.

EDIT: Manga scan of Konan using her Paper bushin...

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Damn, your pathetic stubbornness has kicked in. :devil: Regardless of the prep time, they are both jutsu of the mentioned characters it is really idiotic to leave one out and keep the other causing the fight to become boringly subjective. U_U She doesn't neccessarily need to be able to use it in a ocean but wherever there is water. In fact she may even be able to use on solid ground? It is only called "ocean" because of the area it covered in the fight against Obito. The area it covers is large just like C3. I only chose golf course because it consisted of land and water. :yeah:

Are you stupid or something? Do you think Konan will be running while Deidara is preparing C3. Did you not see how fast Konan flew while she was fighting Obito in that scan. She could always use bunshin to trick Deidara and actually be near the outskirts of a village or area as long as it is quite a large distance away from the source of the explosion. You should think more open-mindedly. Don't underestimate Konan because of her gender and less screen time than Deidara.

dude your an idiot if your being serious deidara wins with a 3 maybe 4 lmao

saying her paper ocean tech isn't allowed is the same as c4 not being allowed? lmao dude these are actual deidara techs that he can do whenever he wants unlike konans where she has to prep time it, she cant pull it out of her ass

listen noob if you really want to debate this match im more then welcome to dude deidara is my favorite character i dont put fanboyism against common sense i know what he can do and cant do and this is one he can win

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

dude your an idiot if your being serious deidara wins with a 3 maybe 4 lmao

saying her paper ocean tech isn't allowed is the same as c4 not being allowed? lmao dude these are actual deidara techs that he can do whenever he wants unlike konans where she has to prep time it, she cant pull it out of her ass

listen noob if you really want to debate this match im more then welcome to dude deidara is my favorite character i dont put fanboyism against common sense i know what he can do and cant do and this is one he can win

Fanboyism at it's finest. It's already been stated this fight can go either way. :yeah: One of Deidara's major known weakness as of now is Raiton, which Konan doesn't have but there are others ways she can still win and they've already been mentioned. U_U There really is no point in debating as I would just be repeating myself. You can either contemplate on my earlier posts or just vote and leave.

 

[deidara senpai]

Fanboyism at it's finest. It's already been stated this fight can go either way. :yeah: One of Deidara's major known weakness as of now is Raiton, which Konan doesn't have but there are others ways she can still win and they've already been mentioned. U_U There really is no point in debating as I would just be repeating myself. You can either contemplate on my earlier posts or just vote and leave.

lol i dont put fanboyism over logic

you have put no reasons why she wins what counter does she have for c3 and c4 tell me konans best attack is just a lot of bombs deidaras are advanced bombs that can come to life

c2 might even be enough konans not quick enough to get away from the missiles

when you say she can still win and give no reasons you just sound like an idiot dude

 

[Shunsin no Shisui]

lol i dont put fanboyism over logic

Why do I find this hard to believe. The likelihood of your logic being subjective is high. :scorps:

you have put no reasons why she wins what counter does she have for c3 and c4 tell me konans best attack is just a lot of bombs deidaras are advanced bombs that can come to life

c2 might even be enough konans not quick enough to get away from the missiles

when you say she can still win and give no reasons you just sound like an idiot dude

I thought I told you to read my earlier posts on this. U_U This is the first sign of a troll you are showing. :yeah: Nevertheless I don't mind repeating what I said except this time I might change it slightly and be more objective. Right, basically both Deidara and Konan are suicidal, both can create almost anything from their respective trademark materials(clay and paper). Both have girly looks(hehe just kidding ), both can fly, are mobile on water and can use the land for advantage in their fight. I think it should be clear to you know that this fight can go either way.

By the way, Deidara has never used missiles. I think you mean his explosive clay creations. C1 is a basic attack Deidara begins with and this is similar to Konan's basic paper bomb offense. C2 consists of a large clay dragon Deidara can use this for flight. C2 also consists of landmines for which Konan will simple counter by staying off the ground. Deidara's clay is also not 100% solid. It can be cut into pieces and become ineffective. Konan's paper shuriken would be useful for this.

I think you are also forgetting that Konan can mix in her normal paper sheets with paper bombs and I have the manga to support this. Remember Konan's fight against Obito. Not only does she mix in paper bombs but they also stick onto the enemy like obito's case. If this happens to Deidara before or while he's preparing C3 or C4, it's no way out. I told you, don't underestimate Konan bro. Even if you take away her Paper Ocean jutsu, she still has other ways. Hope you understand and thank you for your time.