aren't people underrating orochimaru against itachi?

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Are you serious? lol do you even realize why I said 59? Hiruzen when he fought oro was 69, databook proves that the fight would be much different had hiruzen been 10 years younger . So basically kishi is saying that hiruzen at 59 would have beaten oro, maybe not killed but he wouldnt have to have used RDS.

This is my logic, how about you question it before jumping to conclusions next time? :cool:.

hi , i do agree with you that itachi is stronger than Orochimaru it's manga Fact

But Current Orochimaru with Edo kages ( 3 ) is a tough shinobi

i don't agree with you when you said that Hurizen won and Oro lose

who died in that battle and who lived ?

Even if Hurizen did not use the shingami jutsu he will Still die from the Kusnagi Sword he got stabbed by it

u don't think he will Survive a deadly Wound like this right ?

waiting for your response , btw you're the only Obito fan i respect as a debater
 
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hi , i do agree with you that itachi is stronger than Orochimaru it's manga Fact

But Current Orochimaru with Edo kages ( 3 ) is a tough shinobi

i don't agree with you when you said that Hurizen won and Oro lose

who died in that battle and who lived ?

Even if Hurizen did not use the shingami jutsu he will Still die from the Kusnagi Sword he got stabbed by it

u don't think he will Survive a deadly Wound like this right ?

waiting for your response , btw you're the only Obito fan i respect as a debater

Well the databook says that the outcome of the battle would be different had hiruzen been 59, I believe that oro would have failed to kill hiruzen had he been a bit younger, well at least that's what the databook implies.

Also edo tensei would backfire because oro has no real way of knowing if hashi would break free or not, so he would most likely summon him which is a bad idea.

Lol well thanks :yay:
 

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Well the databook says that the outcome of the battle would be different had hiruzen been 59, I believe that oro would have failed to kill hiruzen had he been a bit younger, well at least that's what the databook implies.

Also edo tensei would backfire because oro has no real way of knowing if hashi would break free or not, so he would most likely summon him which is a bad idea.

Lol well thanks :yay:

i do agree that Prime Hurizen will Beat Orochimaru this is Manga FACT even Oro admitted that

but what i don't agree with that Hurizen will win if it wasn't for the death jutsu thing
i don't think he will Survive that deadly wound from kusanagi in first place

but to be honest Hurizen Feats it's not enough to kill Orochimaru
the only thing Hurizen has is the shinigami jutsu which can take Oro's soul and sealed him but it will kill hurizen as well

untill we see more Feats from the old man then we can Judge

btw he is my favorite kage along with minato lol
 

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i do agree that Prime Hurizen will Beat Orochimaru this is Manga FACT even Oro admitted that

but what i don't agree with that Hurizen will win if it wasn't for the death jutsu thing
i don't think he will Survive that deadly wound from kusanagi in first place

but to be honest Hurizen Feats it's not enough to kill Orochimaru
the only thing Hurizen has is the shinigami jutsu which can take Oro's soul and sealed him but it will kill hurizen as well


untill we see more Feats from the old man then we can Judge

btw he is my favorite kage along with minato lol

@Bold: Yeah, I agree. Hiruzen hasnt shown us anything yet that could give him the advantage every time but he most definitely will in the upcoming chapters.

& lol enma is one of my favorite summons, so I like hiruzen & want to see more of them :cool:.
 

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@Bold: Yeah, I agree. Hiruzen hasnt shown us anything yet that could give him the advantage every time but he most definitely will in the upcoming chapters.

& lol enma is one of my favorite summons, so I like hiruzen & want to see more of them :cool:.

Enma was owning both hashirama , Tobirama he is such a beast

i know that hashirama and tobirama were not at their full power

but for example if you own hashirama with 80 % + tobirama with like 80%

thats mean u almost owning Full power and a half

another reason why hashirama is overrated
 

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orochimaru has a weakness the SHARINGAN that is why he trys toget an uchiha body by all means.the sharingan will always be is weakpoint being to obsessed with it and fearing the sharingans power that is the reason he didnttry to take over sasuke's body again when he was resurrected through anko.
 

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The amount of times people just say something themselves then assert that because they've said so, it is clearly manga fact now *smh*. It's not even that the OP is flat-our wrong or anything, but manga fact is only established by the manga and Kishimoto, not fans.
 

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Believe what you want but I am more then sure that Itachi can still kill Orochimaru.
 

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Oro still has no counters to his genjutsu, the fight would be over in a flash.

& oro is not top 10.. Hiruzen at 59 could beat him with his arms.
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If hiruzen beat he would be alive but who came alive in that battle he had to kill him self to take away his jutsu
 

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Orochimaru didn't not say if hiruzen was in his prime he would he said if hiruzen was 10 years younger hewould have consume his soul completely with demon seal
 

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Wrong he weakness is not the sharingan if that was the case sasuke in the forest of death and when sasuke beat orochimaru true form orochimaru still could have beat orochimaru said to jiraiya that he could not beat a sharingan heir not a sharingan user he doesn't orochimaru does not fear a sharingan at all.
 

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orochimaru was only testing itachi sharingan's power at first time....this is true i think
 
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