Madara's genjutsu skills

[jorgelius]

this is major find. yes?

 

[Xāvî1]

Sharingan users have genjustsu whether is weak or stong doesnt matter. How many other ninja with out sharingan uses genjutsu ? a hand full, I have only seen five till now, Hashi, Kurenai, Stone shinobi in kannabi bridge fight, orichimaru, tayuya

 

[RikudouMadara]

Hmmm...apparently he has oodles of sharingan eye techniques as he says he does. I'm guessing 2 or 3 maybe more. I'd put him as far as Sharingan users here...

Shisui
Itachi
Madara
Obito
Sasuke

Imho. Hopefully we see these eye techniques that he mentioned.

 

[Stark]

His Genjutsu is better than Obitos, he taught Obito and lived way longer than Obito and any other Uchiha.

 

[jorgelius]

Hmmm...apparently he has oodles of sharingan eye techniques as he says he does. I'm guessing 2 or 3 maybe more. I'd put him as far as Sharingan users here...

Shisui
Itachi
Madara
Obito
Sasuke

Imho. Hopefully we see these eye techniques that he mentioned.

im pretty sure he have just one _mangekyo_ genjutsu cant say forsure its tsukyomi but he has seen using it,

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its known to be able tame kyuubi, so it makes sense

His Genjutsu is better than Obitos, he taught Obito and lived way longer than Obito and any other Uchiha.

yeah obito's genjutsu battle was pathetic (vs- kakashi sensei) sasuke is quite good because he dont try too much mostly trick victim.. madara otherhand try torture subject and this eint good without skills trying to force best outcome

 

[Mantayoh]

He created a limited tsukyomi when telling Obito about his plan (albeit he was connected to gedo mazu, but that was just for chakra, the skill was his own, and the eyes he used weren't even his). All kage level ninja i think are more than capable of breaking out of normal sharingan Genjutsu quite instantly, or avoid it all together. I mean Sasuke didn't use genjutsu against A, and Obito didn't use it against Minato, so I think Hashirama was himself quite skilled and experienced against genjutsu to render it useless, not because Madara lacked skill. Paralyzing A should be considered a good feat in my opinion. Of course, He is not at the level of Itachi from what we've seen because Itachi was a Genjutsu specialist. I mean he didn't just use his sharingan for it but had other jutsu like that finger genjutsu and the dusk crow genjutsu. But Madara should be quite strong in genjutsu by all accounts.

 

[jorgelius]

good post, first his tsukyomi when linked to mazo because he was linked to mazo he could show one pictures no matter how detailed even me could show u everything i wanted if had mazo linked to me + tsukyomi that has nothing to do with skills

he is and he isnt tsukyomi and others like it grants user to control of space, time and even mass of objects madara genjutsu could be arqued being good as hashirama's darkness gen maybe they had unspoken agreement that they dont use genjutsu.. since that dont go anywhere

 

[Mantayoh]

Perhaps you are right about the Mazu making the genjutsu detailed. IMO though, tsukyomi has to do with skill. I think the one Itachi used was the epitome of sharingan genjutsu, and he named it Tsukyomi. Danzo made a comment that Sasukes genjutsu wasn't comparable to Itachi who could even control the time of his illusions (Implying that perhaps it was the same jutsu, only itachi was more skilled) Also, wouldn't it be rather foolish to try create this whole plan of infinite tsukyomi(Which he did before meeting Obito) if he is incapable of actually using the Jutsu at some level at least. Tsukyomi is a MS ability but so is Amaterasu, and we have seen Sasuke do ridiculous things with it now that he has more skill with it, though initially he could only use it like Itachi did. So I think it's quite possible that Tsukyomi improves the same way with skill until one reaches Itachi's level of tsukyomi.

 

[Dark Artist]

he genjutsu'd a fodder to death in 322

he put the kyubi in Control by using his genjutsu , ur point ?

anyone who put the strongest bijuu in a Genjutsu is very good at genjutsu

you're a total blind or idiot or Both

 

[jorgelius]

Perhaps you are right about the Mazu making the genjutsu detailed. IMO though, tsukyomi has to do with skill. I think the one Itachi used was the epitome of sharingan genjutsu, and he named it Tsukyomi. Danzo made a comment that Sasukes genjutsu wasn't comparable to Itachi who could even control the time of his illusions (Implying that perhaps it was the same jutsu, only itachi was more skilled) Also, wouldn't it be rather foolish to try create this whole plan of infinite tsukyomi(Which he did before meeting Obito) if he is incapable of actually using the Jutsu at some level at least. Tsukyomi is a MS ability but so is Amaterasu, and we have seen Sasuke do ridiculous things with it now that he has more skill with it, though initially he could only use it like Itachi did. So I think it's quite possible that Tsukyomi improves the same way with skill until one reaches Itachi's level of tsukyomi.

yeah amaterasu is strongest ninjutsu and tsukyomi strongest genjutsu.. itachi gave good name to ms techs alltogether with his genjutsu skills and maybe sasuke will get better afterall he have itachi eyes + been under itachi's skillfull shows and again infinite tsukyomi is jutsu and it grants user controll of eye set from moon and everyone's caught who sees that moon.. sound lot like it has little do with skill if i remember correctly juubi was somehow linked to this + moon and all.. so insane amount of chakra is needed skill only show when using same jutsu and results differ.. and they greatly do

 

[VolatileSoul]

So the man who came up with the moons eye plan, the most powerful genjutsu in the manga, sucks at it?

 

[jorgelius]

So the man who came up with the moons eye plan, the most powerful genjutsu in the manga, sucks at it?

spot on! who came up with that whacky plan has nothing to do with genjutsu skill